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the person meant that it is way harder to meditate in oldage as compared to teenage and grihast jeevan. (this, even i agree, only if that person have never done bhagti.. otherwise bhagti gets intense as u grow older) first of all.. physically he/she is weak... then he/she has done so many bad karams.. that it is the karams that makes the bhagti of an old person hard... so its rare that a person in oldage gets the realization.. in essence of this hardness and rareness its ok to say that "buddi mala parvaan nahi.". u have done so many bad karams that even if u try bhagti.. because of being habitual to bad practices it very very hard to mold an old person way of life towards bhagti. old people doing amrit chakk just for getting saved is worthless.. as for the example sau chuhe kha ke billi hajj ko chali --- again, not my points... i beleive the opossite.. but i cudnt express in words.. mayb even i m wrong.. so need sangat's opinion! thanks

i was having discussion with someone and a line came up in discussion that buddi maala parvaan nahi hondi! is it true? that in oldage .. praying .. meditating is worthless.. sau chuhe kha ke billi hajj ko chaley..

none of the sikhawareness links are working..

yes... i m loving.. archiveed folders.. though some posts in archived folders give reference to more older post.. but i guess they r too old and hence cant open.. N30.. figure it out plz i m looking into sansrit to hindi/punjabi/english.. but no good dictionary online... apart from kulbir singh proficiency in linguistics.. it doesnt matter to me.. all i want to know whre to get sanskrit meanings .. any dictionary online? i m getting very confused.. i recently got married and my wife's brother is hardcore akj.. i m not ..neither my wife.. but i respect akj then one day he asked me abt usual raagmala stuff.. i said buddy i heard baba gurbachan singh ji's katha.. and i m satisfied.. even if its not gurbani.. i wud accept the punishment of reading extra than not reading it. Period. he is cool.. he never makes a fuss.. anywys.. when i went deeper read gurbani paath darpan... the meanings used for words.. i want to know how/where did he got it? for example.. taal in gurbani can be used for pond, sarovar, hrida, etc but panch? i want to know how is panch = sreshth (most praised, highest, etc)? thx

WJKK WJKF, its been a long time since i asked anything.. its soo interesting to just read the archive folders.. ok.. i was reading yesterday some old threads on raagmala and someone posted what bhai kulbir singh (tapoban) posted abt raagmala.. specially that he read the meanings done by baba Gurbachan Singh ji bhindrawaley and he found it absurd, non-sensical from grammar point of view etc etc., in other words complete rejection. so, i started reading it from Gurbani paath darpan, its quite interesting.. but i m stuck in 3rd line where babaji says that "panch" means sreshth. i checked many dictionaries but found tht panch means 5? i know i'll be stuck in future lines too as i progress.. so its better to know what dictionary to follow or how to know the meanings? same goes with bairangan (angan means limb.. wht does bai stands for).. i guess thts why kulbir singh ji told tht the meanings of words were not correct!!

so if u get to read the translated version of his veechar... would that be ok?

lets hear what Maskin ji says about it.. and if u need more discussion.. then we should discuss!! LOBH http://www.keertan.org/andromeda.php?q=f&f=%2FKatha%2FGiani+Sant+Singh+Jee+Maskeen%2FLobh MOH http://www.keertan.org/andromeda.php?q=f&f=%2FKatha%2FGiani+Sant+Singh+Jee+Maskeen%2FMoh

Balbir Singh ji... in essence u r right. infact Gurudwara is our body itself.. Rabb de darshan isi body temple ch honge. But.. please dont take it to extreme.. what u r talking is a very deep context.. for a beginner.. he/she has to go thru some of this stuff.. during Guru's time sangat used to come wherever Guru used sit and give updesh.. that was a sort of "gurudwara" too.. if u start preaching like the way u r now.. ppl will stop coming to "brick and stone" gurudwara.. how will u preach then??? u have to bring children (that means jigyasu at very beginning stage of bhagti) to school. i agree many preachers say come to gurudwara all sukh will come.. etc etc.. but thats the general humanity way.. atleast ppl will come .. and jiski surat tik gayi.. usne laaha paa leya.. phir gurudwara is opened in his/her body.. plz.. as maskeen ji used to say,, sangat di avastha and interest dekh ke hi gall karni chahidi haa.. \ WJKK WJKF

wht i feel is that the arth by Bhupinder singh for thak paahe is correct. but i checked mahan kosh, maskeen ji katha, thakur singh katha.. everyone says that manukh daatan lende lende thak jaunda hai.. but seriously trishna kitthe thakdi hai? till last breath human always keeps on asking/hoping more and more!! so..isnt this a point to ask any good kathavachak (baba hari singh, bhai pinderpal singhji, gyani thakur singh) and let him know this alternative (better) meaning.

WJKK WJKF Veer Bhupinder Singh ji (thelivingtreasure.com) came to Calgary for a day and gave a katha/lecture and touched various topics like nasha.. tension.. composition of SGGSJ etc etc overall it was good. i would say he is a brilliant orator and the way to interpret bani is quite "modern". in that "modern" interpretation he interpreted the line from Japuji sahib "denda de lenda thak paahe" as: the Giver keeps giving all the daata (of bhakti, intellectualism, naam ras, satbuddhi, goodness, etc etc) always, as soon as the person gets it (only when he knows how to get it) then his mind becomes settled down (that means all tension gone, he becomes blissful) so according to Veer ji, he said thak paahe means "settled down". he said in all the kathas and teekas he has seen it as thak paahe = get tired Babaji keeps giving so much that we get tired.. this makes no sense because we never get tired .. trishna never does. so in essence he kept saying Gurbani khud khojo.. u will get new meanings.. old meannings does not mean they r right.. if with old meanings u get 50% elevated in avastha.. and with new meaning u get 60% so that concludes new meanings are better. i need ure opinion sangat.. i had conversation with him too at the end of session.. which i will tell in next topic.

its ok.. i got the topic on karam veechar in file number 30 of pothi 13 katha.its really deep.

WJKK WJKF Singh ji... since i listened karam katha by Baba Hari Singh ji Randhawey waley.. i wud like to know which file has rut5(especially karam and atamgian adhyay) for Harbhajan ji and Karpal ji.. there are so many.. i m lost thanks

singh ji.. detailed analysis of KAAL is explained in a granth by Bhagat Kabir Ji. Please google "anurag sagar"

sorry... he moved to Surrey... i can give u his latest contact number if u want!!

he is in oliver city, 1 hour south of kelowna, BC !!

yup.. these r the revised versions.. enjoy!!

the one living in toronto is our pyare "Bhagat ji" (Baba Jaswant singh ji).. check his website www.gursevak.com

i have audio with me... its all recorded.. i wonder y didnt they upload it yet.. i gonna ask him this weekend.. or try to figure out how to give u the audio! audio helps a lot!!

not yet!! but Bhagat ji is busy in doing the sateek.. so u can expect in the near future. In the meantime, its better to do practice in pronunciation.. audio is coming very soon!! Gurkirpa!

www.gursevak.com

on vashna by Maskeen ji http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/audio/Katha...keen/Vashna.zip on kaam by Sant Gurbachan Singh ji Bhindranwaley http://www.gurbaniupdesh.com/multimedia/04...saa-Ang-403.mp3 if hard to understand, due to poor quality, then listen to Bhai Balbir Singh (DDT) katha on this same shabad: http://www.gurmatveechar.org/audio/katha/0....14-07-2007.mp3 on 5 vikaars (defined by Guru Arjan Dev ji on ang1358, this ang contains few lines on each of the vikaar), by Sant Gurbachan Singh ji Bhindranwaley http://www.gurbaniupdesh.com/multimedia/04...-5-Ang-1358.mp3 on ahankaar by Maskeen Ji http://katha.gurmatchanan.com/katha/androm...skeen%2FAhankar on general yet powerful katha (25 kathas, but recommended is the 1st one atleast) by Harbhajan Singh Khalsa Yogiji http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/audio-video-archive/ then click on educational --> siri singh sahib --> punjabi katha --> listen the 1st one there are lotssssssss and lotssss... i hope u wud like and LEARN from these kathas. hope i helped u.

well, do u need katha websites.. or just particular katha links!! if u need individual katha links.. then it wud be better to let us know your interest.. like.. katha related to history, or straight line to line meanings.. or deep veechar on a specific tuk from gurbani.. or just a general kathaa on any topic (like vikaar, pain, maya.. etc.) thx

yeah... but the real entertainment is the sixes...... wooohoo.. go delhi go!!