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thanks for that link matheen. im gonna czech it out as well.

MDS, thats a very good post. i dont think that silence or me for that matter is saying that the Nihangs or any sikhs should forget ANY bani.

why wud a singh need the yoginis and female magical entities that accompany the goddes Kali or Durga, when they already have the "chandi " in thier hands, the Bhagauti, Sri Sahib etc. as for Nihang Singhs why want these shakti's when they have the army of the Shaheed Singhs and 96 million strong army? 32 japs of brahm kavach and the enemy could have his weapon on your head by the time syou have done 3 or 4 repetitions whereas "chandi" only takes a second to invoke. which one would you choose? i know which one i would choose.

why complicate sumthing so simple? why look for a drama where there is none? and amardeep, youstill havent answered 3 questions that i asked on the preivious page. plesae oblige me.

and i know what you are all thinking... why didnt he get all that in 1 post. sorry.

amardeep its very simple. avtars can be worshipped as an aspect of God as they were created by God. But then again so was the Sun, and we know the story of Guru Ji at Hardwar. There are mnay countless other sakhis where Guru has said that Akal Purkh alone is to be worshipped, not the Illusion which hew has created. so to me its very simple.

ik®snu blBdRü gur pg lig iDAwvY ] kirasan balabhadhra gur pag lag dhhiaavai || Even Krishna and Balbhadar meditated on the Lord, falling at the Guru's Feet. nwnk gurmuiK hir Awip qrwvY ]4]5]43] naanak guramukh har aap tharaavai ||4||5||43|| O Nanak, the Lord Himself saves the Gurmukhs. ||4||5||43||

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=1697 mÚ 1 ] ma 1 || First Mehla: nwnk inrBau inrMkwru hoir kyqy rwm rvwl ] naanak nirabho nira(n)kaar hor kaethae raam ravaal || O Nanak, the Lord is fearless and formless; myriads of others, like Rama, are mere dust before Him. kyqIAw kMn@ khwxIAw kyqy byd bIcwr ] kaetheeaa ka(n)nh kehaaneeaa kaethae baedh beechaar || There are so many stories of Krishna, so many who reflect over the Vedas.

are we all not manifestations of the lord? isnt the whole parkriti a manfestation of the world? why are sehajdharis allowed to mix it up but not kesadharis or amritdharis?

yes it came out last year from what i was told. only it didnt. Nihang Niddar Singh is adding to it.

i think he was joking!! anyway who is the singh in your pic bhujang singh? tell us about him plz.

shahbaz khalsa have been there but the place is controlled by the dsgpc and so there was only little they cud do, ie move guru saroop to beter environment. but how long has this been going on? what can we do to really have an effect on it. the saroop with no ramalla , chanani was particurlalry shocking. what goes thru the mind of these people when they have it like that? what can ordinary sangat do? mks, the dsgpc is same as sgpc in controling all sikh instituuions in dlehi state. the curent presidnt sarna is an opponoent of badal and anti sgpc. his mission seems to be to oppose badal whethe right or wrong.

amardeep watch what you write. ape beej ape hi khaho. if you dont beleive that Sant Jarnail Singh was anything speicel, thats upto you. plz dont write his name like that again. missing the singh out on purpose will earn you thappar in parlok.

http://www.panthic.org/news/126/ARTICLE/4039/2008-04-17.html pw rarely brings us news of any quality , usally its anti-sant venom is the only thing its known for. however this is a good article whch i found shocking. please take time to read, and how would you propose to rectify this situation?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.s...aod/index.shtml try this. if this fail clink on the original link i gave. then go to asian network shows and click on news and current affairs. then under nihal click on monday

use Guru's example of Cheta masand.

well it has given the listeners an idea of the discrimination that sikhs have endured in india. and thats always a good thing for a country that pathetically and falsely potrays itself as the worlds largest democracy. Khalistan Zindabaad.

ash from brum " u want a pice of india , lets get it on. al qaida will seem like babies compared to me..."

Please listen to the debate that took place between 9-10am on Monday 14 April 2008 using the link below: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/asiannet_ao.../asiannihal_mon Debate was extended to around 10.25am to get some anti-Khalistani voices on air. A written statement by Bhai Amrik Singh, Chair of the Sikh Federation (UK) ended the debate and the presenters response summed up that Sikhs won the Khalistan debate.