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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Why Sikhi failed to spread
Did you even read his post? He clearly doesn't love or respect Sikhs.
Crystal, you liked that sharmas post? Are you kidding with that or what?
The singh sabha never had any hatred for the Hindus, they simply loved Sikhi. Thats the difference. Even thought they didn't get somethings right they did get some things right. Stop falling for this hindu bullshit!
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Why Sikhi failed to spread
The Malwa Sardars were afraid of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, which is why they went to the British. Personally I beleive that Maharaja made a big mistake when during his tour of the Malwa states in 1806, he didn't have them all executed and taken the domains under his own name. Or at least shipped the sardars off to Lahore to attend his court whilst he ruled the Malwa.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in lord shiva and god
are we all not manifestations of the lord?
isnt the whole parkriti a manfestation of the world?
why are sehajdharis allowed to mix it up but not kesadharis or amritdharis?
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Panjabi Behams
babies having their upper teeth come first is seen as bad luck, in indian society. my mum told me that.
my auntie scolded my sister once for washing her hair on a thursday, saying your brothers life will decrease.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from paapiman in Happy Sikh New year 2022~~ Cheyt In Baramaha - Must Read~~
Happy Sikh New year to all brothers and sisters on this forum!
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Prediction of British Rule by Sri Satguru jee
Where does Guru Sahib say this ?
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chatanga1 got a reaction from mahanpaapi in Happy Sikh New year 2022~~ Cheyt In Baramaha - Must Read~~
Happy Sikh New year to all brothers and sisters on this forum!
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Soulfinder in Happy Sikh New year 2022~~ Cheyt In Baramaha - Must Read~~
Happy Sikh New year to all brothers and sisters on this forum!
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Happy Sikh New year 2022~~ Cheyt In Baramaha - Must Read~~
Happy Sikh New year to all brothers and sisters on this forum!
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Grooming Of Sikh Girls In Mainstream Media
would nt you like to see more Sionghs on tv?
i hear what you're saying but you its hard to do a lot of those things when the british govt is riding this muslim tiger.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in hanuman ji in kalijug
Hanuman Ji was one Ram Bhagat, whoRam Chander never took with him when he left. Don't know why as Shri Ram took the whole city with him as per Dasam Granth. My vidya Guru told me that Hanuman was give the task or remaining in Sri Lanka to keep some deeva burning. He had been there for yugs until Guru Nanak Sahib went to Sri Lanka, and there Guru Sahib fulfilled Hanuman's wish that he be allowed to go to Sachkhand. There Guru Sahib also gave Hanuman darshan in the roop of Shri Ram Chander.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Tulsi das ramayan in Gurmukhi
I've ordered the english one. Hate reading books from a screen.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Scientists Make Sea Water Drinkable, Produce 6.3 Million Litres A Day
Good stuff.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in This Punjab-based farmer helps over 2M YouTube subscribers with videos on better farming techniques
Dammit, all his videos are in hindi. Can't stand to listen to that.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in War Footage
Yes. Sikhs are unabel to defend themselves from the tidal cesspit that is the indian state, why direct our energies in places where we will not make any neglible, if any difference at all pre and post outcome.
Do you mean in intel gathering?
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Premi in Stay or go? Dilemma facing last of the Afghan Sikhs
She sent the military into the frontier to curb the talibs activities and paid the price.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin
Yes I have been confused myself. i though there was only one and went to a bookstore in india and asked for it. It was only when i got back to UK i realised that there are more!
Which other authors have you come across ?
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin
Here is the page re Mata Kaulan from Gyani Gyan Singh's "Gurbilas Patshahi 6vi":
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin
Let's try and finish it off:
Dohra:
This will be praised as a great place of pilgrimage, listen Budha and Gurdas
All the congregation were elated, kaulan was filled with great joy (740)
Arril
Bhagat Singh, this was very blissful day
The second reason being the day of Maghi where peace was obtained
The day was the 5th and full moon was recognisable
The Sarovar was revealed and the praise was known. (741)
Then Kaulan was reassured by the Guru
The poet is a sacrifice and a sacrifice again to the Guru, showered in his love
Great fools and thoise with low intellect, from his kindness
Become pure from the low actions, from their minds (742)
Dohra
Sahib Budha immersed himself in the Guru's Holy feet
Death will be coming in 2 days to take him away (743) ( I seriously hope I'm getting this right!)
Chaupai:
Returning to his throne the Lord bowed...
And that is where it ends.
I cannot see any cause for controversy in these pages, assuming that I got the gist of it correctly.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin
Dohra:
In time, this will become permanent (the sarovar only being kacha at this time), the Holy Guru said from his mouth
The poet Bohar sings the praises of the Guruwho has provided many comforts (738)
Swaiya:
The Gurur's word is firm like a tree, and equal to the "Kal-Briksh" tree ( a tree that grants all wishes in Hinduism), whatever is desired is obtained
Lighting a candle every day, whoever worships here will recieve their minds desires
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Had to ask a Gyani for help on the above.
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin
Dohra:
Sri Guru Sahib told Baba Budha of Kaulan's desire
this desire for a son will result in a sarovar pouring comfort (730)
Chaupai:
Sahib Budha then said, whatever you do is for the welfare of the world
Hearing this Guru Ji stood up and tightened his waistband, Bhagat Singh says the Guru is all-knowing (731)
The Bohar (tree) which stands to the east, Guru went and stood by it
Saying the true name, a strike was made, repeating the name Kaulsar from his mouth (732)
Dohra:
The sangat came to celebrate Maghi, seeing the benevolent Guru
Whoever helps in this work (of digging the sarovar) will recieve a four-fold fruit (733)
Chaupai:
The sangat came in large numbers, joining in the work, all carried on their heads
The holy mouth said the elevated words, whichever man or woman bathes here (734)
whatvever deisres they have on performing a bathe, their desires will be fulfilled
For the desire of a son whchever woman bathes here, within one year she will give birth to a son. (735)
Dohra:
any other desires that a person haswill be obtained
Bhagat Singh says this gentle promise was given from the Guru's mouth (736)
Swaiya:
The righteous, merciful and benevolent Lord, has said this from his holy mouth
Have knowledge that visiting many places of pilgrimage in this world, perform penance and charity, will be rewarded,
Whosoever person has a bathe here, listen further will increase his knowledge
As long as the earth and sky remain, the will also remain the name that gives always gives peace (737)
Dohra:
In time the sarovar was completed and Guru said from his mouth
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Swaiya:
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Lighting a candle every day, whoever worships here will recieve their minds desires
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whichever man desires for wealth, woman, or son, he will obatin it, do not have any doubts over this (739)
I think i have run out of steam. Can't structure the wlines I have left out.
Any help?
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin
OK so there are 2 and a half pages left of this sakhi to translate so let's see if we cna bring this sakhi to a conclusion from GP6, although there is another source concerning Mata kaulan that I would like to share after.
Dohra:
Sahib Ram Koer Ji is known as Gurbaksh Singh
Devoting himself to the 10th Guru, all his works were completed. (720)
Chaupai:
For 7 forms intercourse was not performed, the mantar of Satnam was held in his mouth
Further on, families were joined by marriage, the souls of Kalyug meeting thier companions (721)
Now the 10 forms of mine that have come, do not perform intercourse but the result is obtained
So leave your desire to perform intercourse, rise and and taste the essence of Guru Nanak's feet. (722)
Dohra:
Hearing the words, Kaulan rose, her intellect having been struck
My desire has completely vanished she said from her mouth (723)
Chaupai:
My Lord, you are righteous, Lord, You have saved me from the fires of desire
One desire does still persist in my mind, There is no name in this world withou a son (724)
Please give me this mantar, or try an alternative method
Whereby my name will remain in this world. The world will praise you even moreso. (725)
Dohra:
The guru said, Those who see my four children
Those who's name are exalted they are repeating them (726).
Arril:
You will have a child that will be known throughout the world
Child, Aged, and Youth will talk about it from their mouths
All persons will know, from the high to the low,
Your child will receive this fruit from everyone (727)
Chaupai:
Your child will be revealed as a sarovar, it's name will be Kaulsar from the begining
Kaulan become overjoyed on hearing this, she fell at Sri Satguru's feet.(728)
Discussing this the day of creation came, Guru Sahib told Baba Budha as such
Sahib Budha and Bhai Gurdas, came together there like peace and joy. (729).
Any corrections need to be made?
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chatanga1 got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Gurbilas Patshahi Chhevin
I am uploading the last 3 pages of the saki from GP6 concerning Mata Kaulan. @Jatro@IJJSingh and @ everyone else, if you help in completing I will be very grateful. I think the verses concerned go up to 743.