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I think it definitely would have been, seeing as the stories were from around India region, and also with it being a persian work I would say it would have been part of the language culture in the moghal darbar.

I think it definitely would have been, seeing as the stories were from around India region, and also with it being a persian work I would say it would have been part of the language culture in the moghal darbar.

She didn’t tell 1001 stories but spread the stories out over 1001 nights. 
I think there are some 300 odd stories. 
At the end of the telling she had borne the King 3 children (1001 nights is almost 3 years) and then she asked the king whether there was any justice in killing the mother of young children so the King rescinded the sentence on her.

She didn’t tell 1001 stories but spread the stories out over 1001 nights. 
I think there are some 300 odd stories. 
At the end of the telling she had borne the King 3 children (1001 nights is almost 3 years) and then she asked the king whether there was any justice in killing the mother of young children so the King rescinded the sentence on her.

Great share.
 
 
Will take another look.

That's the main thing I saw as well. Getting others to take a person into their confidence by displaying a notion of wealth/trust. Allowing them to fall into the trap before fleecing them for much more.
 

@paapiman brother, can youcarry on with putting up Nara's translation please? I had issues with my computer and unfortunately am unable to do it.

Great share.
 
 
Will take another look.

@paapimanYo, if anyone else wanna read'em there's pdf's available.
http://www.burtoniana.org/books/1885-Arabian Nights/
If you don't want to download all these PDF's, you're in luck because there is an online version available:
http://www.wollamshram.ca/1001/index.htm

This charitar also tells about false relationships. The woman in this charitar became a "dharam bhen" of the other woman. In the base tale the Queen is the Dharam Patni of the King but she also has ulterior motives.

This charitar also tells about false relationships. The woman in this charitar became a "dharam bhen" of the other woman. In the base tale the Queen is the Dharam Patni of the King but she also has ulterior motives.

inmy lifetime i have heard from 2 people why they became Sikhs. their path to sikhi is amazing as you will all agree!

Sikh 1 : i used to be a radhaswami, but i wanted to drink(alcohol) so i gave it up and became a Sikh.

Sikh 2 : i used to be a namdhari, but wanted to trim my beard so i became a Sikh.

True testimony from the believers!!.

pray truth for all and Sat Sri Akal.

in the 15 vol katha of Aad Guru Granth Sahib Sant Gurbachan Singh ji that has come into my posssession, i have listened to the pangati that i started this topic about way back in 2007.

Sant Ji gives exactly the same meaning as i read in a steek. However in the recording he goes further on to say that the man who drinks alcohol is a "kanjar".

Well it's apparent what who won here. 
 
 

You just were? I know you are lying. 

This should be the ideal intention when presenting ideas like this. Otherwise people may just do the paath and when the materialistic items don't appear, then lose heart in Gurmat.

To me, it resembles the root story in that, "you play along, or pay the price."
The Prince wouldn't play along and he (almost) paid the price.

In this charitar the man is only mentioned upto the part of impregnation and absent thereon. The main character in this charitar in the woman, who is proven to be astute, confident and focused. When the King dies, she very confidently manages the Kingdom and when she becomes pregnant she very confidently manouveres that situation to her advantage.
To me, this resembles the confidence of the Queen in the root story, where she has manouvered the King into giving his own son the death sentence. Because of the way she she did, the King not realise that a charade was taking place.

In a previous Charitar, we had a similiar scenario where the King find his wife with another man, but in that charitar the King decided to let them live as it would bring shame/ridicule on him if the populace were to find out his Queen had been found with another man. IN this charitar however it shows how the King managed to enact an alternate ending whereby rather than ridiculing him the populace actually praised him.
 
 
Yes, I agree with that. After finding her missing, he showers affection on her so as not to give his plan away of finding out what she is up to .

From this Charitar, I see that the woman very readily accpeted her paramour dying. She brushed off his death sentence without any concern, even though she had very strong (lustful) feelings towards him. We see this in the root story, that the Queen had very strong (lustful) towards the Prince but was totally disconnected to the fact that he had received a death sentence because of it.

This charitar also tells about false relationships. The woman in this charitar became a "dharam bhen" of the other woman. In the base tale the Queen is the Dharam Patni of the King but she also has ulterior motives.

They are seen as being part of the wider Guru Nanak Naam lewa Panth. They have split into 2 factions recently, with one faction now beginning to address Sri Guru Granth Sahib as such. The other faction are pretty much the orthodox namdharis.

They are seen as being part of the wider Guru Nanak Naam lewa Panth. They have split into 2 factions recently, with one faction now beginning to address Sri Guru Granth Sahib as such. The other faction are pretty much the orthodox namdharis.

This charitar also smacks of the lack of communication between the 3 people.
Why did the King not try to extract a response from his son before passing a death sentence?
Why did the King not try to extract any information from his Queen about what led up to her raising those allegations?

I would go with Nara's here as it fits in with the rest of the story.
 
Yes I was thinking the same here. The King was very confident that no other man could take his wife in their arms as he has. But despite his confidence he was still proven wrong.