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  1. ਅਜੈ ਸੁ ਰੋਵੈ ਭੀਖਿਆ ਖਾਇ ॥ ਅਜ ਰਾਜਾ ਦਸਰਥ ਕਾ ਪਿਤਾ ਰਾਨੀ ਇੰਦ ਮਤੀ ਕੀ ਪਰੀਖਿਆ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੂਆ ਰਾਨੀ ਕੋ ਸ਼ਿਕਾਰ ਸਮੈਂ ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਕੇ ਰੁਧਰ ਸੇ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਅਪਨਾ ਭਿਗੋਇ ਕਰ ਦਾਸ ਕੇ ਹਾਥ ਭੇਜਾ ਦਾਸ ਨੇ ਕਹਾ ਹੇ ਰਾਨੀ ਜੀ ਰਾਜਾ ਕੋ ਸ਼ੋਰ ਨੇ ਮਾਰ ਦੀਆ ਹੈ ਸੋ ਪਤਿਬ੍ਰਤਾ ਸੁਨਤੇ ਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਤਜੇ ਤਬ ਤਿਸ ਕੇ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਮੈਂ ਦੁਖੀ ਹੋ ਰੁਦਨ ਕਰ ਤਿਸ ਕੋ ਵਿਜੋਗ ਕਰ ਰਾਜਾ ਰਾਜ ਤਿਆਗ ਕੇ ਭਿਖ੍ਯਾ ਮਾਂਗਤਾ ਭਯਾ॥
  2. @JasperS You have to pay very close attention to what I am saying. What did I say previously? "There is nothing wrong with her leading. She can lead, she knows how to lead. But she wants you to lead her. " So pay close attention so that we can both benefit otherwise, I'll probably get frustrated and won't be able to do anything for you. I can't serve you, if you don't accept my serving. If you have made a good choice in selecting a woman, then your wife is a virtuous woman. As you demonstrated your knowledge in advait philosophy, she too can demonstrate knowledge in many areas. She is skilled in many tasks. She is beautiful. She knows what she wants from life. She is spiritual. That's what you want. So of course you will find your wife is leading in many areas. That's what you want in a virtuous woman. When she says she wants to go somewhere, she wants to do something. You can lead her - You take her hand and say, let's go there and let's do that. And lead her there. Even when she is leading, if you lead her then that lets her know you care about her. She'll find you more attractive. She wants you to lead. That's how God has designed her. Look man, we're are all equal. In spiritual reality, there is no hierarchy. This is why it is important to see your wife as divine. Because you will see past the hierarchy. But on a worldly level, humans have been designed by God to have differences. (These differences lead to hierarchy, and this too is God's hukam.) Men and women have been designed in certain ways. They are activated and excited by things differently. Things tirgger their biology in different ways. Men get excited by certain things in women, in ways in which women don't and cannot even imagine. Similarly women get excited by certain things in men. You might think these things she desires are degrading for her. But that's what she is looking for and those things fulfill her, when she finds a man who can deliver. I don't judge men and women for what they want or need. I only understand them. And maybe in your current paradigm, you think differently. That's fine. That's God's command. What I am sharing is for our shared amusement. It find this whole thing amusing myself. Keep it in the back of your mind, knowing that it is another system that works. This is what our maryada teaches. Which is not degrading to either man or woman. Rather it aims to fulfill the biological and spiritual desires of both sexes and provide deep well-being in their relationships. You have a different paradigm. It doesn't mean it is automatically bad. Maryada is coming from a different paradigm to yours. So it doesn't mean it is automatically bad.
  3. There is no difference. The more you are praising someone, the more you are worshipping them In Bhagawad Gita, Krishan ji is synonymous with Waheguru ji. In this book, Krishan ji explain to Arjun - "No matter which God, you worship or praise, no matter which religion you belong to, whatever you pray for, whatever you ask your God for, it is I who will fulfill your prayers." No matter which deity you worship, in reality you are worshipping the only one, who is Waheguru.
  4. @JasperS I am not saying to withhold such important (romantic) information from her lol. I am saying - You should learn to see her as Goddess. And I am saying - You should also tell her that you see her as such. In the moment, you have this spiritual experience where you see your wife as Goddess. You should let her know about your experience and feelings, if and when you experience it and feel it. It should come from a place of truth. Read - Radical Honesty by Blad Blanton. To clarify... Of course, you should have a strong focus on positive traits of your wife in your mind. (BTW This does not mean you can't tell her to fix her negatives. See - The Way of the Superior Man - for how to do that in the right way.) But when I say that you must learn to see her as Goddess, then I am talking about having a spiritual experience. This is a certain kind of experience, where your experience of your wife becomes divine. There is utmost clarity and tranquility in such a sight. So this is key. 1. Learn to see your wife as Goddess You wife should learn to see you as God. Ie you are both having divine experience of each other. So far so good? Now for the next key. 2. Put your Cause above all else, including her When I say do not put your wife above you. I mean to not put her above whatever you feel your purpose is in the world. The initial attraction women have for men is due to men's confidence but in the long-run women want a man who has a cause. They want a man who is working for something greater than him. They want to be a part of the man's purpose in the world and they want to support him in it. But if the man forgets his cause and runs after the woman, then she can no longer respect him. And this is where the genders are going in different routes -> The husband has a cause who he is working for and the wife is supporting her husband in his cause. The husband is looking up at his cause, and the wife is looking up at the husband (ie she is attracted to him) Your wife may well be superior to you in many things, most things. But overall she wants to feel as if she has made the right decision in selecting you, ie you being superior to her, meaning more cool than her. We are talking about overall "coolness" or "superiority". You know your wife is better than you in many things. But her focus is on whether you can do the things that she is looking for in you, one of which is having a cause that you are firmly fixed to. She perceives you as superior, overall, is when you have a purpose that is greater than you that you worship. So she worships you for worshipping your cause. You get this dynamic - Wife worships Husband worships Cause And with that you end up with this hierarchy - 1 Cause 2 Husband 3 Wife Your wife wants you to lead. She wants you to engage with her by leading her into good experiences. 3. Lead your wife to good experiences There is nothing wrong with her leading. She can lead, she knows how to lead. But she wants you to lead her. So if you don't lead her, she will start leading but she will slowly grow resentful and lose attraction for you because she selected you for the ability to lead her to good experiences. This is why women seek confidence in men. For men it is beauty that attracts us to a woman at first, for women it is confidence. Confidence is what attracts your wife to you. This is because a man who lacks confidence cannot lead. So she is looking for a leader, and she judges his leadership ability through confidence. Read - Man lead...: Woman Follows, Everyone Wins by Ro Elori Cutno. She talks about husband-wife dynamic like a Salsa Dance. She explains that in Salsa Dance one leads the other follows. If both try to lead, the dance does not go well. If no one leads, again the dance does not go well. If one leads and the other follows only then the dance goes well. This is true in any human interaction that there is a leader there is a follower, and you wife selected you as her leader and she is looking for you to lead her. If you don't lead her, she will start leading but she will slowly grow resentful. So again you have a hierarchy of leadership - 1 Cause 2 Husband 3 Wife Cause leads Husband leads Wife. Those are all good things. I am assuming your wife has a job. If she is helping you by earning an income to support the house, then you should help her by doing chores around the house. There's nothing wrong with that.
  5. Yes exactly! This verse sums it up. Thus we get the hierarchy that I talked about in my first post - 1 Vishnu (Universal Consciousness, Father, Oneness) 2 Maya (The World, Mother, Duality) 3 Vishnu (Local Consciousness, Son, Perception of Duality) This is why Vishnu is known as ਸ੍ਰੀ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ - Shri Niwas, the house of all things, the world, Maya, who is known as Shri. Vishnu is the home of Shri, thus known as Shriniwas. In the universal consciousness exists the world. (God created Nature) v In the world exists universal consciousness as local consciousness. (nature gave birth to Man) v In the local consciousness exists the world as perception. (Man perceived Nature in his mind) v In the perception exists perceived local consciousness. (In his perception exists other men) v In the perceived local consciousness exists the perceived perception. (He perceives the other men perceiving him) v To infinity (He sees others seeing him seeing others seeing him....)
  6. I wouldn't be surprised. Most people lack the clarity to find the humour in things. They'd rather disagree with everything and be upset with a frown face. What's wrong? "He said this and he said that" This is life. It is what it is. "Whatever it is, I hate it!" Learn to see the humour in things. "But it's not funny! How can he say things this?! How dare he?!" Ok but it's time to eat. you should eat something "NO I DON't WANA EAT! I am not hungry and I won't eat until he stops saying those things!" -_-
  7. @JasperS From your post it seems like there is a misunderstanding. I am not talking about treating your wife like shit. I'm not talking about seeing your wife as an incapable adult, and I am not talking about anyone's qualifications or degrees either. The whole first part of my post was that you should learn to see your wife as Goddess and treat her well. I posed a link to Kama Sutra and The Way of a Superior Man, which talk about the the right way to treat your wife and fulfill her desires. So I hope that is clear and we can continue to have a clean nuanced discussion. When we are talking about superior/inferior, we are talking about who is the "coolest". Who see the other as more cool, more "value-giving". If your wife finds you attractive, most likely she sees you as more cooler than her. She sees you just a bit higher than her level. If you were too superior, she would feel that she doesn't come close to you that you don't deserve her because you are out of her reach. That's not good. If she saw you as inferior to her, she would not find you attractive. That's not good either. God has designed her as such that in order to feel attracted to you, she should feel that she is close to your level but you are a bit above her level. Like how you would view your older brother, or any older sibling. You think your older brother is the coolest guy ever, and you wana be like him. You admire him and you respect him. Your older brother has this presence and he makes you feel like a boy around him because you feel safe around him. He will protect you if you are ever in danger. He's got your back if you are ever in any kind of trouble, whether financial or anything else. You can relax in his presence and be playful and open up about anything. He's like a father-figure as well. This is how your wife should feel around you.
  8. It can drain your energy and cause your mind to be more distracted, and take your focus away from God and focus it on the thing you are disagreeing with. It will also make you unhappy. Disagreement will generate a lot of energy in you but towards the opposing idea or argument that you are resisting. Thus causing further entanglement in Maya. IMO this energy is better spent towards the pursuit of God.
  9. You won't see any verses in Guru Granth Sahib explaining who an ideal Shakat is or who an ideal Shaiv is. But you have several poems talking about the ideal Vaishnav. What does that tell you? Edit- Another thing to note is that 'Shakat' is used as a pejorative in Guru Granth Sahib.
  10. You have no idea what Maryada says. Read the guidelines for husbands, to enjoy their wives only and not bring any other woman into the mind. This means to see your wife as Goddess. (although it is not said in those terms for the reasons I'll give below) When you are having sex with your woman and your full unwavering attention is on her, then she will transform into a Goddess, and if she does the same towards you, then you'll be her God. It works in any type of activity you do with your wife. Any time you engage her, if your full presence is there with her (ie seeing her as Goddess) then... IT WILL BE GLORIOUS! So Learn to see you wife as Goddess Step 1 Engage in activities with your wife Step 2 Be fully present with her However do not consider your wife as superior. This way you'll make her feel as if she is your Goddess. Remember this - Husbands and Wives both serve each other but they do so in very different ways. After you learn to see your wife as the Goddess if you start worshipping her as Goddess, putting her above yourself, then she will lose attraction for you. If she worships you as God, meaning puts you above herself, then you (as a man) will not lose attraction for her. In fact, the opposite will happen to you, your attraction for her will grow. Husbands are more attracted to their wife, if she puts him above everything else and they feel more love towards her. Wives don't like it when their husbands place them above everything else, they lose respect for him if he does. This is basic male and female nature. And you have no choice in the matter because attraction is not a choice. From a female perspective, a wife wants to feel that her husband is superior to her. She wants to feel that her husband is the coolest, that he is THE SH*T. Otherwise she simply loses attraction. You can see this in Japan where women refuse to marry men who earn less than them. It is becoming an increasingly common phenomenon there that women are earning more. Also google - the Herbivore men phenomenon A woman is only really attracted to a man as long as she sees the man as slightly higher than her, more ambitious than her, more aggressive, stronger, smarter, etc etc it's a long list. She is attracted to him when he leads her to good experiences. Whereas men readily marry down and support a non-working wife, women rarely marry down and rarely support a non-working husband. And if they do they are often very resentful. A few rare and blessed women still maintain respect for their husband in that arrangement where they are earning and their husband is not. God bless those women, but the others are not like them. Look. It would be awesome if this was not this way. Then we'd all live in the mythical equality utopia, where all men and all women are equal. Where children are delivered by storks because female pregnancy is the leading cause of inequality in our society. The male and female roles are a consequence of the debilitating effects of pregnancy on women. Anyway, this equality utopia would be awesome! Equality, YEAH! (It's a such a good word - equality.) But reality is not like this. Mother nature has designed this system of women seeking after men who are superior to them. Again, some women don't, they seek other qualities, that's great. I hope they are able to maintain attraction for their husbands and a strong bond with them in the long run. Also read Kama Sutra on how to be a good husband. http://www.sacred-texts.com/sex/kama/index.htm And how could I forget - The Way of the Superior man. https://www.amazon.ca/Way-Superior-Man-Spiritual-Challenges/dp/1591792576
  11. No then it is called Vaishnavism. Hence why this verse exists - ਬੈਸਨੋ ਸੋ ਜਿਸੁ ਊਪਰਿ ਸੁਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ॥ ਬਿਸਨ ਕੀ ਮਾਇਆ ਤੇ ਹੋਇ ਭਿੰਨ ॥ He is Vaishno upon whom Vishnu is happy. He stays apart from Vishnu's Maya. (He sees physical phenomenon as illusory.) Materialism is the idea that the physical universe is the source of everything including consciousness. That consciousness does not exist in the universe aside from living beings such as humans. (Btw this was the predominant paradigm in western science for a long time.) Would you still call it materialism if a person believes and behaves as if physical phenomenon are all illusory and all comes from the universal consciousness and that consciousness is everywhere? Then it is called Spiritualism. Materialism (Shaktism in India) - Matter ultimately created spirit. Matter -> Spirit -> Matter -> Spirit.... Spiritualism (Vaishnavism in India) - Spirit ultimately created matter. Spirit -> Matter -> Spirit -> Matter.... It's the chicken and egg dilemna. Which one came first?
  12. I am with you. PS Be careful with how you spend your energy. Disagreement can be a huge drain on bhagti.
  13. Guest It goes both ways because the sexes are interlinked. You have to remember that in those societies where wife is housemaid, the husband is a workhorse. Do you think that the men want to spend all their time away from their family to work? No they have no choice but to work to support their family. Now that's a very negative way to put it "housemaids" and "workhorses" but essentially it means specialization. The wives specialized inside house job. The husband specialized in the outside house job. That's called the division of labour. They divided the labour according to the strength and capability of the sex. What allowed humans to beat neanderthals in the game of life, is that we had much more specialization in our society. We divided labour amongst men and women. And we also divided labour amongst different people. Each man of our society specialized in something. One was a potter, another a warrior, a priest, a blacksmith, a weaver. And our kind of humans did this to a much greater extent than our cousin humans, the neanderthals. Now what I said here - The wives specialized inside house job. The husband specialized in the outside house job. - Is not entirely true because the inside home job is not as difficult as the outside home jobs. So wives would sometimes help their husbands by unloading some of the work. And when they did they again divided the labour by sex. When farmer's wives helped their farmer husbands in the fields, they did the light work, whereas their husbands did the heavy lifting. This is the reality of the human existence. It is the division of labour.
  14. This is a belief of Shaktism - ie materialism. Eka Mai, the one mother, is matter, material, mother, all related words. ਮਾਤ੍ਰ/matr - maya, mother, ma, measure, matter. Maha Mai, supreme mother, is the source of everything and she, the physical universe, created life with consciousness/spirit, which was named as Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh by the then three major religions in India. That's the Shakat philosophy in a nutshell. But it is flipped on its head in Guru Granth Sahib. So in context of Guru Granth Sahib, I would not read it like the above because in Guru Granth Sahib, it is not physical universe that created consciousness, it is consciousness that created the physical universe. Guru Arjun Dev ji says - ਬੈਸਨੋ ਸੋ ਜਿਸੁ ਊਪਰਿ ਸੁਪ੍ਰਸੰਨ ॥ ਬਿਸਨ ਕੀ ਮਾਇਆ ਤੇ ਹੋਇ ਭਿੰਨ ॥ In this verse, we see this phrase - Vishnu ki Maya. Maya is something created by Vishnu. In English, this means that the world is created by consciousness, that physicality is the creation of the observer. Vishnu ne Maya banayi hai. Vishnu means one who is everywhere. Guru ji is saying Consciousness created the world and is spread throughout the world. ਧਰਣੀਧਰ ਈਸ ਨਰਸਿੰਘ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ॥ ਦਾੜਾ ਅਗ੍ਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮਿ ਧਰਾਇਣ ॥ The creator of the world is Narsingh Narayan. He holds the universe into existence with his Tusks. And ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ਸਭ ਮਾਹਿ ਨਿਵਾਸ ॥ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਪਰਗਾਸ ॥ Narayan resides everywhere, he illuminates each and every thing in the world. Most people reading these verses in Gurbani have no idea of the meaning. In plain English, Guru Sahib is saying Consciousness brings the world into view. it is the source of the world, the support of the world and the "illuminator" of the world. Picture three circles. One big one, and one small one inside the big one and one smallest. The largest one is Narayan (in red). the middle white one is Maya, and the smallest one is also Narayan (red). Red-Consciousness/ Spiritual/ Narayan White- Physical /Material World/ Maya Narayan creates Maya, ie Maya is a circle inside Narayan. And Narayan also resides within Maya, thus Narayan is a smaller circle within Maya. That's why he is known as Narayan. Nar + Ayan. The One inside the body of man. This might be getting long and winded and I don't know any easy way to explain it. Are you with me so far?
  15. I was actually thinking of your life in this world. Gurmat is based on miri-piri. How would this knowledge help you make certain decisions in life. i.e. who to vote for, whether to go to war or not. You left this out from my quote - It brings more clarity into any given problem. Look problems are always hard. But they are made a lot easier if you can see clearly. How can a blind person solve 2+2 on their sheet if they can't see even see 2+2 on the sheet. 2+2 is a very simple problem that is made overly complicated with blindness. Ok not the best analogy but you get what I saying. In this manner, I have noticed people in my personal life get overly entangled in trying to solve simple problems, that have very clear solutions. But because they are dreaming, they are not in full control. They don't have free will. Waking up by surrendering to God, paradoxically gives free will. It's the biggest paradox. You surrender over your will to God and you get more free will. WTF? it's true. You surrnder yourself fully and you suddenly transform into the most free person. Freedom radiates from within. it is true freedom. This waking up brings more composure into your life so that you can deal with such problems to your best. How can you walk straight to your destination when the wind is blowing so strongly that it pushes you away? When you wake up, you become still and you can walk straight to your destination. Look growth is a gift of God. Things are always going to be challenging because we grow through overcoming challenges. Life is always going to throw challenges. Waking up gives us the ability to enjoy very tough challenges that would otherwise not be enjoyable. It allows you to live your life fully! In sad moments, it is joyful sadness. In angry moments, it is calm anger. It is a big ass paradox.
  16. Lol. Are you really? Well for one, you enjoy daily life more and the quality of your life improves. Another change is in mental clarity - It's like going from an old analog TV to a digital HD TV.
  17. I am that 'other' guy who says you should listen to your blood pumping and ear drum vibrating. lol When you are listening to this music... remember these words. There's a trap in any practice/ritual. Watch out for this trap! What trap? What happens is that people forget that they are there to train their concentration. people forget that they are there to obtain Yog with Waheguru, ie to merge with their mool swaroop. They forget to - Chit Vriti Nirodh - to stop the wandering of the mind. While you are on your inner journey, if you forget your purpose, if you forget why you are there and where you intend to go, then you will get lost in sounds and stuff. These will become like the vicious sirens, and no matter how much you tie yourself up with ropes, they will get to you. Even those people who are chanting mantras, when they forget why they are doing it, they get distracted easily and then where did the mantra go? nobody knows. We don't want to fall in this trap. We want to progress and merge with Ram. This is the purpose for which you and I were created. ਕਬੀਰ ਰਾਮੈ ਰਾਮ ਕਹੁ ਕਹਿਬੇ ਮਾਹਿ ਬਿਬੇਕ ॥ ਏਕੁ ਅਨੇਕਹਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਗਇਆ ਏਕ ਸਮਾਨਾ ਏਕ ॥੧੯੧॥ Kabir ji says, chant "Ram, Ram" but keep this in mind! The ones who didn't have the intention to merge with Ram, they merged in many worldly distractions; the ones who maintained an intense intention to merge with Ram, they merged with Ram.
  18. Om Mani Padme Hoon Oooooooooooommmmm The (mani) Jewel exists in the (lotus) multi-layered Mind. The layers of the mind over-lap and are closed up, thus hiding the jewel inside. You gotta open up and sometimes peel back the layers of the mind. As you go deeper and deeper into that state, the lotus open up and there you discover the true wealth. You might call it Mani, you might call it God, you might call it Naam daan as Lucky did above. And notice what happens to a Lotus when it opens up... o khil janda hai!! It blossoms - It wakes up. When you open up to life, this lotus also opens up, revealing the secret. Goes back to Jap ji, First Pauri, Hukam rajai chalna. When you open up to Hukam (life), this lotus opens up, revealing the truth, and when you follow that truth, you become sachiar. Just to tie it to our previous discussion - Look at the pic below. Do you see that there is Karta Purakh sitting in the center of the peeled back lotus? This is an anthropromorphic representation of the jewel in the lotus. Look! The lotus woke up! Ok that's enough theory, onto practical. It depends on what exactly you mean by those things - basic nitnem, simran, conscious living. 1. What is your basic nitnem? 2. What are you doing when you do simran? 3. How are you living your life consciously? And 4. What effects have you felt in life, in your being, from doing the above? What results have you obtained? This should help us understand what exactly you are doing and what you are getting from it. To see if its working or not. If its working then great but if not you might have to tweak your lifestyle. Be as specific as you feel you need to.
  19. Rather, Brahma, who is Akal Purakh (not bound by Time), is dreaming. This world is the dream of Akal Purakh, who is known as Brahma. Now that's a spiritual idea. Do not make it into a belief system. It is only to give you an understanding of yourself. It is talking about you Tva Prasad. You are Brahma/Akal Purakh, dreaming right now in your waking state. Meaning you are attached to a reality which is not ultimately real. Your perception is not real. But the one having the perception, dreaming up reality, is ultimately real. That which is ultimately real is Brahma. In some philosophies, Kaal is considered part of Maya. In other philosophies, Kaal is beyond Maya, and is known as Mahakal (Supreme Time). In some philosophies, Purakh creates Maya. In some philosophies, Maya creates Purakh. This is not something you can confirm because it is a philosophical question.There are different philosophies that address the question in various ways. However you can ask "in Guru Granth Sahib, does time come under Maya?" Then the answer is yes. In the philosophical system of Guru Granth Sahib, Kaal is considered part of Maya, and Purakh creates Maya.
  20. Exactly. @Ragmaala @paapiman You are not dreaming within a dream of someone else. You are that who is dreaming. We are all that, that collective consciousness., who has been dreaming. Some of us have woken up though and are participating in the dream in a waking state.
  21. Lol thanks for the reminder! Nah unfortunately, I didn't taste sweet saliva. I just had a sweet feeling in the back of my mouth. If i ever get sweet saliva, I'll get my Mummy ji to try it.
  22. Brahma is the source of time (kaal) and all other things. He is not bound by time for the reasons you stated. In Vedant, Brahma, who is Absolute Consciousness, is the source of all things. Everything is perceived in Consciousness, that is why Consciousness is known as the Creator/Source. Hence Brahma the Creator. You understand things like this because you have studied Vedant either directly or indirectly. You are advanced practitioner of such knowledge. Change is also part of Oneness. The illusion/ the dream is also part of Oneness. It is my experience that the state of Oneness includes everything and nothing. But when we talk about Oneness, immediately it develops into a particular philosophy that is no longer Oneness. Oneness is exists prior to any philosophy. But when discussed it becomes into a philosophy, which is part of the creation but not in itself oneness. So we must recognize the difference between the actual and our philosophy that is used to try to describe the actuality. We must recognize the difference between the top of the mountain and the path to get to the top. And I mention this to bring up a different philosophy where Time is not thought about in the same way we have talked about above. This is Mahakal. In this philosophy, the Supreme God is known as Kaal (time) or Mahakal (supreme time). Time is the overarching Supreme Reality. Nothing exists outside of time. There is no other moment other than the Present Moment. Present Moment is that oneness in which all things exist. Time creates, Time maintains, Time destroys. Time is that book (in your example) that contains all things. Previously we were referring to God as Consciousness (Brahma). Here we have referred to God as Time (Mahakal). God can also be seen as the Guiding Principle (Waheguru). In my opinion, all of these different philosophies are ultimately pointing to the same reality. But when you have different names and different philosophies. Now it starts to look like you have different Gods. Already in this post, there is a Brahma character, Mahakal character, Waheguru character. The ones who do not know the secret, they think these are all different Gods. In the end, we must stick to a particular philosophy. But we should also transcend that philosophy and learn the one secret behind everything. Exactly Atma is Brahma. @Ragmaala When the sages said Brahma dreams and the universe comes into being in the way it does. They were talking about YOU. You are Brahma. You are dreaming and that's why the universe is the way it is. Only you can know what happens when you wake up. You have to wake yourself up to see what happens!
  23. In Vedant, Brahma's dream is referring to your current perception of the world itself -> the world is a dream. The world is experienced by you, who is consciousness -> Atma/Brahma. You are currently perceiving reality in a dream state, meaning you are not perceiving what is absolutely real (Brahma), instead you are dreaming. When you have no Brahmgyan (no knowledge of Brahma), no Atamgyan (no knowledge of consciousness), then it is said you are living in a dream state. This is known as a dream state because when you are in a dream, everything appears real and solid. You think those things are happening to you for real. But in reality it is not real. It's not as real as when you wake up. When you wake up, everything that happened in the dream seems fuzzy and false. You thought you were seeing things clearly in the dream, you thought the dream was happening to you but when you wake up you realize you were not seeing anything clearly at all. When you wake up from sleep you realize the dream is false. When you wake up (obtain knowledge) from your sleep (ignorance) you realize the dream (world) is false. This world is a dream, you (Atma/Brahma) are dreaming it up. When you wake up, you will see Brahma, meaning you will see the reality of the world. Your everyday experience of reality is transformed into something spiritual and profound. You wake up to the reality of life, which is beautiful but also ugly. You see everything with utmost clarity. This is what happens when Brahma wakes up.
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