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I believe I have heard that from kundalani yogi the power of the kundalani (sepant) energy trapped in lower chakras can be freed by rocking back and forth. Muslims in madrassas believe rocking back and forth help to induce spirtual ecstasy. But maybe you maybe like these lot : - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO8HI884_zI&feature=related Acquiring the ridhi sidhi of flight.

Karamsar erm maybe not sure ish

The staying positive and keeping busy thing sounds it may be a viable theory however question is more about being positive, because you can not be much busy without positivity it will lead to stress-hence sexual frustrations and if there no way to take out sexual frustration then something of paap that will lead to negativity which will lead to more of the same putting you in a cycle until you kill yourself or find a way out of it. Positivity can come from simran, sewa and sadhsangat- as kirtan sohila says my body village is full of anger and lust we need to go to saints to have it cured-> only thing is where to find real saints who are above lust themselves to cure it for someone else. When it comes to things like masturbation it can be resultant from boredom, stress and loneliness which can be resulting products of negativity no one wants to be near a negative person. Maybe we can figure out what causes that negativity in the first place, what gives us the stress then isolate it and deal with that in a different way such as going out to enjoy the fruits of life. I once heard that someone said in each continent one of the 5 thieves is more over-rulling then the next and in the west kaam rules highly; has anyone found going to India or somewhere else reduces kaam; because usually people seem most lustful in summer in west; does heat increase or decrease. Also bearing in mind India has a huge population- can we assume for ourselves kaam decreases there? Also when it does come to paap, if we do have to commit it (everyone sins) main thing is moderation; avoiding indulgence in sin is essential, limiting ones participation in one sin will allow one to continue with the rest of there days with ease only thing is finding a way out of it completely. Also do we commit the paap or is everything in maharaj hukam and his ordained will, the way he destined it to be; so if we are to be trapped in lust it is as so.

How do you conquer lust? following on from my previous post of celibacy the question I have is how, why and what is achieved? There are many hindu masters who teach this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVy2fmaq8ZE&feature=related but in western society where sexual lust is everywhere how do you conquer those desires, how do you conquer them in your dreams, in the night, in fantasy and day dreams, when someone walks by wearing appealing garments? Cold showers and beats?

Why don't these people go after Anjem Choudary instead of innocent people.

http://www.zafarnama.com/Download/ganjnama.pdf http://www.zafarnama.com let me know if there any audio/video - Rumi smashes it

the bigger the jhoora the bigger the paag- Nihangs would carry arms in there dastars so they had loads and loads in bigger dastars (BARE SHASTARS- minimum dhamalla rehat being 5 shastars although they had much much much more). Also its more protection for your head, if someone wacks you on it as well as horse riding, if you fall of the horse your still good to go. In ancient Rajistan the more socially higher a person was (caste-money-kings), the bigger that persons turban would be - I am assuming with many other aspects of rajistan culture entering punjab and into Sikhs this was probably one of those things it was usually people within that culture of lower castes who wore smaller turbans. Like servants would have very tiny turbans, while lords had massive turbans. All around world bigger head dresses were associated with people of more power. Guess some people feel more sardar- sardari comes from character, principle, moral and ethics more. I would say in my own opinion one needs to have a respectable size- you cant have a huge boat on your head and same time you cant be wearing a hat like turban Big turbans were not only admired by Hindus but also by Muslims, there loads of paintings of ancient turkish people and other muslims with HUGE turbans- "At the day of the judgement, a man shall receive a light for each turn of the turban round his head." Prophet Muhammad as well as saying "The turban is a frontier between faith and unbelief." "My community shall not fall away so long as they wear turban." "Wear turbans, for thus you will gain in generosity." "Wear turbans and thus distinguish yourselves from the peoples who came before you." The neel of nihangs has significance both in hinduism and islam- from islam there are still sufi sects who wear purely blue- when Guru Nanak went to mecca he wore all blue and was hence considered by people a sufi pir/fakir.

That shabad from sukhmani sahib is intresting it says "Indra jeet"- Usually Jains say its a sin to eat something which has 5 indras (mouth, 2 eyes, 1 nose, 2 ears) so meat is wrong for them. However there is another story relating to this http://buddhanirvana.wordpress.com/category/god-buddha/page/2/ Its about these trees created by Indra (hindu diety) which grew women in the forests those who went into the forests (for Dhamma-riddle. Yogis, Gandhabhas -heavenly musicians ) had to overcome there sexual lust anyone who did not and slept with one of those women from the tree (Makaliporn/Makkaliphala) would go into a coma for 4 months after waking up they loose all there powers (ridhi sidhis such as flying). ਕਾਮੁ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੁ ਕਾਇਆ ਕਉ ਗਾਲੈ ॥ ਜਿਉ ਕੰਚਨ ਸੋਹਾਗਾ ਢਾਲੈ ॥ Kām kroḏẖ kā­i­ā ka­o gālai. Ji­o kancẖan sohāgā dẖālai. Lust and wrath wastes the body away, as borax melts gold. SGGS 932 ਭੋਗੀ ਕਉ ਦੁਖੁ ਰੋਗ ਵਿਆਪੈ ॥ Bẖogī ka­o ḏukẖ rog vi­āpai. Painful diseases afflict those who are sexually promiscuous. sggs page 1189 ਕਾਮੁ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੁ ਜੀਅ ਮਹਿ ਚੋਟ ॥ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਚਲੇ ਮਨਿ ਖੋਟ ॥੨॥ Kām kroḏẖ jī­a meh cẖot. Nām visār cẖalė man kẖot.॥2॥ Sexual desire and anger are the wounds of the soul. The evil-minded ones forget the Naam, and then depart. ॥2॥ sggs page 152 So it seems almost in modern society hard to avoid lust, we have to be like a lotus flower above the mud. But question is how to conquer lust, (cold showers and beats?) - An intresting article on kaam - kama http://www.sanghparivar.org/blog/dr-k-prabhakar-rao/kama-lust-surely-causes-human-down-fall "Hindu scriptures are full of the incidents that highlight the ills of lust ( Kama). Even Gods have fallen prey to the vise and suffered. Indra the ruler of demi Gods in the heavens became infatuated with the beauty of Ahalya the wife of the great learned sage Gautama. He devised a plan and taking the form of Gautama he entered the hut of the sage at an hermitage when he was away and violated Ahalya who submitted to him ignorant of the truth. Indra thus morally fell and deserved severe punishment. The sage Gautama having returned and come to know of the truth cursed his wife to turn into a stone for getting involved in adultery although she was deceived. He also made Indra to suffer great shame by cursing him that his entire body would be covered all over with female genitals (4). This is because Indra was overtaken by lust and forgotten what is good and bad. Ahalya could regain her form only when Sri Rama (Incarnation of Lord Vishnu) accidentally touched the stone with his foot while wandering in the forest accompanied by Sage Vishwamitra enroute to Mithilapura. This was foretold by the sage Gautama. This has been described in the most pious Hindu scripture Ramayana (5). Indra suffered great shame and was unable to show himself to any one. He however did penance praying to lord Shiva and the Lord much pleased blessed Indra that all the vaginas on his body would be changed into markings of eyes. Then onwards Indra is being called Sahasraksha ( One with thousand eyes). Even the greatest sages became victims of the trait of passion and lust..... " It seems that probably Indra devta challenges yogis by putting kaam infront of them.

Are any celestial beings- (jinns/angels/demons/unseen beings/devil/satan) present before/during/after sex, masturbation, wet dreams or lustful moments. In Abrahamic faiths we find the notion the devil creates the evil of sexual lust between unknown couples; also there are some Christians who believe in these demon spirits who make people masturbate to feed on there soul, blood and semen- in turn weakening the person, leading to depression as well as trying to take demon possession of the body.- INCUBUS AND SUCCUBUS - INCUBI AND SUCCUBI - http://www.demonbuster.com/incubus.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus also in Arabic known as "Qarinah" http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Incubus_(demon) http://www.consciousape.com/assets/1103/Succubus.jpg Also when does the soul of a baby come, does it come during straight from the sperm? If a person spills semen are evil rus/jinns/beings to come to that person, would that person carry those beings with him, can possession occur- (needing exorcism type) ?

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It's also forbidden in islam although there are some loopholes to oral sex; some say as long as you do not swallow its ok. Anal sex is haram.

Also is it wrong to have sexual relations with dastar on, what do we do if bodily fluids come onto dastar- can such staining even be washed our or are they to remain, is it wrong to dispose of the dastar? Is it acceptable not to have head covered or is such an act of spiritual relevance where it must be respected as such.

I don't see the point of karezza how would delaying male orgasm make us meet god, by pushing the 3minutes to 30minutes (or by use of drugs to help with that). Maybe with simran or by sharing a paath together doing one pauri at a time might be something practiced but the benefit reeped would be from bani. With your 30 year old friend we are not aware what he did in his past life which may have allowed him to collect all that kamai maybe you can ask him on this issue in regards to what someone can do. Is there in some way some one addicted to sex can get off it, or drastically reduce ones indulgence? There were many hindu kings who practised tantra they had multiple partners even concubines would sleeping around not have serious ramifications? It seems baba nand singh made comments on this are there any more of his or nanaksar sants on this matter or anyother sampradis.

Kaljug do you think that ideally even having sex with ones spouse that both should be engaging in rom rom simran together at the same time, does not doing simran while sex effect the child to be borns spirtual state; would one get a bhagat of a child born during such. I am guessing with this there is a matter of opinon is there any more closer maryadas for sex, I remember seeing one which says a Sikh can not remove there kachera and must have kakkars on during sex and must wash after. Is sexual activity to be limited? I think dasamgranth does mention masturbation I can not remember exactly it maybe with the sanskrit word for semen which is bindu. Theres a yogi talking about bindu he giving the purpose for kesh aswell related to it

Kaljug do you think celibacy would be necessary even within marriage for mukhti? Say you die having sex, maybe a heart attack will you go to hell for being in kaam at the time of death? Also hath rasi is a word hmm, its used in urdu I found it on this website http://www.forum.noorclinic.com/0/transliterate_in_roman_urdru_7512.htm Khud Lazati (Masturbation) "Semen ka ekhraj ka 3rd aur aham zariya masturbation hai. essai hath rasi, jalq, dast kashi aur hand practice bhi kaha jata hai." ... "The ahaadith (singular: hadith) (narrations about what our great Prophet Muhammad ``` ), make it even more clearer: Masturbation is completely haraam. Abdullaah ibn Mas’ud said, "We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. So Allah's Messenger said, "O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power."" I have always heard people use the word moot mar in punjabi but that probably came from tamils or maybe ancient sanskrit.

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The thing about these mandates of rehats in faith is the time and place were different, so it does seem apparent people were not living in the same luxury as that did kings, we have come into luxury lifestyles where we are exposed to many beauties, attractive people- due to fashion industry, just as kings enjoyed mujras we now have television full of women dancing- Even Sikh kings became sex-aholics/maniacs with twifes concubines etc. so the reality of the situation is sexual misconduct is common as it was rarer before both because it was hidden due to taboo and now it is open in the media- so regulation may need to come into effect. Bhagti is getting harder but the fruit of bhagti is worth more now in kaljug then before one jaap is worth so much more then it was before. As for the diseases and illnesses associated with it I personally believe sexual misconduct is one of the main causes for depression which is now on the increase, we are not able to live to our biological functions as well as people messing with mental attitudes of people by playing mental games with multiple sexual partners or classic dumping partners. As for the hath rasi thing can you get some more details on that, I would imagine you would get a huge proportion of sikhs going for pesh- masturbation does occur in couples, with these days of domestic violence common in apni homes, not everyone to put crudely is "getting some", others would be reserved to solo pleasure as well other relationship issues for such. Can masturbation of thinking of ones own partner be acceptable?

There is a difference between love and lust; so we could even act in lust with our partners, becoming sex maniacs, so question is what is would be the optimum physicality in such a relationship. All I am aware is marriage is for procreation so if we are not intending on bearing children would sex be sinful would the use of condoms or other forms of contraceptives be it natural or artifical be sinful or are we building up on tantric energy are we building together. And is masturbation wrong, medical science says that 90%+ (the percentage is about 50-60% for women but it depends on who admits it, which is more difficult for women) people do it both male and female they claim it allows the sexual organs to come into activity but even with that too much can be harmful in day to day activities, it builds self-esteem and other healthy aspects; with that aside to pornography there may be harmful mental,physical and social effects to it, if it slows down ones lust the behaviour of that individual would be different if not hyperactivity of that persons lust. Sex addiction of all forms must have serious consequences to ones entire spirituality (bhagti). But we could assert the notion that lusting for ones own partner is love for the divine we see god in our spouse and in such our lust maybe justified.