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Putting, bibi in for Punj Pyare is not a small exception. This is altering the Amrit Sanskar, it can't be compared to taking a Kirpan off. Personally I wouldn't take Amrit from women. There is a good reason for taking the Kirpan off for a few hours. Removing kirpan, shaving hair, are on a personal level and that Sikhs is not making a decision out of pride or stubborness. When you talk about woman being in Punj Pyare then you are talking about a bigger issue that invovles the whole Panth and the altering the foundation of Amrit Sanskar. You cannot compare the two and say they are the same(small exceptions). The Punj Pyare represent Sri Guru Gobind SIngh Sahib ji and not just some Maryada, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji took the form as man and then later distuigished man and female, then how can you place a woman in the place of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji, when he didn't do it himself? I can flip the personal question around on you and then add at the end how can you send a person down a guilt trip when you don't keep Maryada yourself and ready to follow yourself instead of Sri Guru Gobind SIngh Sahib ji. Let me go further how can you run a Sikh Awareness site when you go against Sri Guru GObind SIngh Sahib ji. So let's keep this personal stuff out because it really doesn't take us anywhere and doesn't prove anything either way. I hope you don't take this personally.

Maryada is the same, it is the persons fault for not following it. We know the results of not following Maryada, I don't have to spell them out here. So whose fault is this? The people who do it. Who said being a Sikh is going to be easy. Singh, your justifying one wrong doing with another. This does not cancel them out. I know you know that, but for the rest it has to be stated. Jatha battles and other things along these line is tamasha, but just to end this on a good note, if we as a Panth start following the Maryada left for us then everything will be Anand.

Singh, you bring up a great point, but one wrong does not make another wrong right. Look at the state of the Khalsa Panth. It's because of us not following Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji that we break and fall. If Maryada is followed then there is no problem. Jatha battle, lets leave this alone. Did Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji give these guys different intructions on how to take Amrit?

The thing about Sants, which I believe you would agree with me here is that the True Sant would not go against or change Guru Sahibs Hukams like Amrit Sankar. The disciple doesn't become brighter than Guru Sahib no matter their state. Even Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji took Amrit the same way he administered it to the Punj Pyare. I believe this speaks volumes and the depth of this has to be understood. And then the fact that no woman even afterwards was put in the Punj Pyare.

Singh, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji told us to take Amrit from the Punj Pyare and prescribed a certain way then why does it matter if a different Panth is doing something else. The Khalsa Panth will follow Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji.

It wouldn't be difficult to fly one Singh in. You probably can bring up even more if ups, but I believe they become irrevelant, since Sikhs are stricted on following Guru Sahib to the last letter.

This is the common mistake people make when presenting this no white and black enthicty reason. When you get into blacks and whites or yellow and light browns then you are taking a black man and a brown man and discriminationg based on color. This would be a problem because it is going back to the caste system. When you look at Guru Sahib decision that day, you can see Guru Sahib gave the sangat two last names. Singh and Kaur. Men and women were given different names. This clearly shows Guru Sahib new men and women are different from each other, if it's not the case then he would have given both genders one last name. Even though the soul does not have a gender Guru Sahib still gave gender names Singh and Kaur to us. We have to respect this decision and follow the Marayda he gave us.

I second this and we can't ignore the fact Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji, also kept gender separate by giving Singh to the male and Kaur to the female. Brahmgyanis are no exception here either, they are still in that physical form as male or woman. It's like we can't ignore the fact the Ten Gurus took the form as male. Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji had no problem distuigishing from male and female and neither should his Sikh. Also let's not forget, there were Brahmgyani woman around at the time of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's, but Guru Sahib never, put in a woman himself.

Which rat hole did Guptsingh, and the Khalsa fauj run back into. Sarna and Darshan Ragi let beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji happen again and who knows how many times this happened without being noticed, where is your big comments saying this is anti-Gurmat. Sarna and Darshan Ragi are both well aware this has been taking place and still let it happen. At least have some intergity you shameless creatures.

This guys idea of Gurmat is doing beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. http://www.proudkhalsanetwork.com/?p=239 Now is your Darshan Ragi, the midget going to release a statement on how he did beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.

What are you on about. Did you look at your Darshan Ragi and Sarna associates have done beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji again. If you Darshan Ragi is so right then how come he hasn't released a statement about the events that took place at Rakabganj Sahib and he fully condemns them. Where is this midget now. http://www.proudkhalsanetwork.com/?p=239

This guy is all comedy. Can you start your own comedy show and come to vancouver. Here is a suggestion for a title. The guy who hasn't hit puberty.(giggle, giggle) LOL

Some just don't learn. Thick headed is an understatment.

Now your with Sant ji. Sant ji calls you an atheist because you don't believe in Bachittar Natak. Sant ji, would have ran a train on your Darshan Ragi.

Congratulations to the whole Khalsa Panth for kicking out an enemy of Sikhi. The Panth did what was right to protect Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji from a Guru nindak, who believes he is God. Darshan Ragi put himself in this position, no one had to do anything. Just had to watch and record this midget run his mouth. This stone idol can start his own dera and keep his slaves on a leash attached to him. Congrats to everyone here.

I would have a little bit of empathy for you, but since you attacked a Singh first and then got your ass kicked, it's all laughs. What were you thinking. You can attack a Singh and believing you'll get away with it!!! LOL You got alot to learn. Well I can't say you didn't learn anything from this event. Let's just hope in the future you learn not to disrespect Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji and you don't put yourself in these types of situations. All this could have been avoided if you just kept your hands to yourself. And you want to go to the cops about this. Go tell the cops, get them to look into this. All they are going to do is laugh in your face for being an idoit and attacking someone first. HAHAHAHAHAA Go collect your evidence, if you can find it. LOL

You got ur ass kicked. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

auqMgI pYEhrI gihrI gMBIrI ] outha(n)gee paiouharee gehiree ga(n)bheeree || O you with swollen breasts, let your consciousness become deep and profound. ssuiV suhIAw ikv krI invxu n jwie QxI ] sasurr suheeaa kiv karee nivan n jaae thhanee || O mother-in-law, how can I bow? Because of my stiff nipples, I cannot bow. gcu ij lgw igVvVI sKIey DaulhrI ] gach j lagaa girravarree sakheeeae dhhouleharee || O sister, those mansions built as high as mountains sy BI Fhdy ifTu mY muMD n grbu QxI ]1] sae bhee dtehadhae ddit(h) mai mu(n)dhh n garab thhanee ||1|| - I have seen them come crumbling down. O bride, do not be so proud of your nipples. ||1|| Ang 1410 juj mih joir ClI cMdRwvil kwn@ ik®snu jwdmu BieAw ] juj mehi jor shhalee cha(n)dhraaval kaanh kirasan jaadham bhaeiaa || In the Jujar Veda, Kaan Krishna of the Yaadva tribe seduced Chandraavali by force. Ang 470 Send your daughter to school with this in hand and tell her to give it to her teacher. And add, this is what mommy teaches me at home. I hope you get the point, but most people are thick headed, let’s go further. sy kUkr sUkr grDB pvih grB jonI diX mwry mhw hiqAwry ]3] sae kookar sookar garadhhabh pavehi garabh jonee dhay maarae mehaa hathiaarae ||3|| They are like dogs, pigs and jackasses; they are cast into the womb of reincarnation, and the Lord strikes them down as the worst of murderers. ||3|| ang 493 kUkrh sUkrh grDBh kwkh srpnh quil Klh ]33] kookareh sookareh garadhhabheh kaakeh sarapaneh thul khaleh ||33|| That blockhead is just a dog, a pig, a jackass, a crow, a snake. ||33|| ang 1356 Your ears are sensitive to vulgar, how is calling someone a jackass or what I have not put above someone’s mother a prostitute not vulgar. Infact send your daughter with the above two tuks in hand aswell. If you still don’t get the point, again some are just shooting and missing all the time, so here the last one. eyk ik®snµ srb dyvw dyv dyvw q Awqmw ] eaek kirasana(n) sarab dhaevaa dhaev dhaevaa th aathamaa || The One Lord Krishna is the Divine Lord of all; He is the Divinity of the individual soul. Ang 469 Vah, Krishna is the one Lord, by Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji’s word. That’s it close Guru Sahib up and replace it with the donkeys, SPN team(Aman ‘Singh’, Narayonjot ‘Kaur’, ‘Gyan’ Jarnail, biggest idiot of them all Tejwant ‘Singh’(please pardon my ignorance, but is this guy just ……….. What is more Brahmanical then calling Krishna the one Lord. Take this aunty ji’s advice, she is very wise. Everyone bow down to SPN and aunty ji. Stop wasting peoples time with your baseless arguments. Seriously go do something productive, like learn how to make an argument. Or go back to clown college(SPN) and then come back here for a second round of vulgar. I’m done reasoning with idiots. Better yet send me an pm, in my spare time I can have a good laugh.

Now your here. LOL I told you stay at SPN. The atheist stick together at SPN, thats where you don't get embrassed on every post cuz you got mod's that protect their Sick Pathetic people. At Sikhsangat you ran off after I replied and here you'll do the same. BTW, tell your Narayanjot Kaur leader that Jamdoot are waiting for her. The hair on her head is turning greyer by the day. I would respond to your post, but your just going to run away. So do all of us a favor and take your atheist a55 back to SPN. Thanks for understanding HAHAHAHA

Sant Baba Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa, calls you, yes you, an atheist, a Bemukh(traitor) that does not believe in Bachittar Natak of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. Here it from Sant ji. Clean those hears out and listen to it carefully. http://www.patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=263:sant-jarnail-singh-bhindranwale-on-sri-dasam-granth&catid=34:english&Itemid=63

Yes I am evil and have hatred and am a papi because I believe in Sri Dasam Granth, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Bani. Sorry OOOO noble one. You don't know anything about Sri Dasam Granth and just making a fool out of yourself. Haven't you noticed no one even taking you seriously. No one cares about your rant. In due time the one's attacking Sri Dasam Granth and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji(Khalsa Panth) will get what's coming to them. You can wear a Bana, kirpan, whatever, but your empty from the inside and it shows.

Where is your proof that Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the complete and Guru of the Sikhs. And what will you show me that ur a Khalsa. lol The guy who rejects Sri Dasam Granth is Khalsa. Take your brahmin teachings back to SPN. They will love you there and if you suck up to them long enough, they'll even make you part of there team of fools. And the sangat here knows you deserve such a title after your hard work.

How can you be a Khalsa, when you reject Sri Dasam Granth. Your not even a Sikh and you're ready to call yourself a Khalsa. I don't say this because it's pretty offensive, but it's needed here. Take your head out of Jeonwala and Darshan Ragi a55. Literally pull it out and see the world for as it is. It's time for you to leave your fantasy world. Seriously, I am being really sincerely here. Think about it.

Take the theory that Brahmins wanted to place Sri Dasam Granth on us or the British or whoever this Harmanjit Singh Mann says. Then why in the world would they use the names Raam and Shyam. If it was put on us to distort Sikhi then they would have used NANAK. This way then they can say look it says Nanak it is the Guru of the Sikhs. Using Raam or Shyam only takes away from their agenda to distort Sikhi. So in this sense the words Raam and Shyam have a deeper meaning which was already been explained by Sarbatdapala.

Okay nice to know. Your very very smart guy. Okay now the Punjabi munde is calm. I take it you must have done Sukhmani Sahib to stop yourself from insulting. Good job