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How many Sikh here who eat meat actually eat it killed the jathka way. It's good to know how animals are killed in slaughter houses, because surely it is not the jatka way.

What i was and will continue to due is show my character and of the people that i know. To go against Sant Jarnail Singh ji and spread lies says alot about the person and what their motives are. Some people have good intentions and stand by their word. Then other's intentions are just to destroy good mens names and increase their own name's fame and of their crew at any cost. It's not hard to see who is who after a year of having discussions. Respected members at SPN will say the same about some peoples character. If you are going to say other's are doing nindiya, a person should look at their own feet first and see the mud tracks they have left behind. On SPN there are many people with mud on their feet and I won't mention them because it will be called personal attack. It's visible who these people are and what their motives are. Nindiya was done of a great Saint and I thought i would point it out since it happened on a forum I used to write at and it was relevant to the topic.

Don't say no Sant's because i'm pretty sure Randip SIngh believes Niddar Singh is a Sant, admin cut- Personal attacks/intimidation tactics against fellow members are not welcome here. I just wanted to give out freindly warning, please adhere to the policy of the forum, failed to do so will result in 1st warning.

Randip SIngh, i don't know why you take offence when someone tells the truth. If you didn't say Sant Jarnail Sing ji is a congress associate then we should go back to SPN and see if the post where you said this lie is still up.......Just went back and yup these lies are still up. And here it is from SPN said by Randip Singh http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/interfaith-d...azia-pak-5.html Just in case i get called a lair, i provided the link. This is the nindiya that happens at SPN by some mod's and members. Take care Randip Singh

People need to read this part more closely. Why does it say Sikh here. Why would some other Raja claim there is no Sikh with him when a Sikh only bows and took Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji as their Guru. Why in the world would another Sikh be with another Raja who people worship and he is also refered to as Guru. Thing's don't add up here. This whole story is made out to look like as Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji is the Raja in the story. There are alot of giddar's against the Panth, don't believe a word they say and always refer back to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji if something doesn't sound right and it is being passed on as Guru Sahib's doing or actions or saying. let's ask Randip Singh, is it Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji in this story who is being refered to as Raja or is it some other Raja?

Silence ji I, myself read and listen to Dasam Granth Bani. To what i am questioning is the story and when people like to say that the Raja in the story is Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. Maybe these individuals are on this forum aswell, who like to spread this lie. I have a good idea already of one of the member's who supports that it was Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. Thank you for pointing it out that it was not Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. The people I am refering to, try to make Guru Sahib into a fool with this story and demean his status as Guru. THE RAJA IN THE STORY IS NOT GURU GOBIND SINGH SAHIB JI AND IF THERE IS ANY CLAIM THAT IT IS THEN THIS STORY IS A LIE.

Randip, I think you gotta read more Gurbani, before you speak. You didn't need to ask for proof I had already disclosed it. You make me laugh Randip. I hope you have proof Randip, so far all you have is hearsay.

We have a Niddar Singh supportor here......Randip please learn the definition of Nindya. It'll save you from saying untrue and stupid things. Also if you are the same Randip Singh from SPN,which I believe you are, then the only person spreading nindya is you of Sant Jarnail Singh ji.

Speaking of other forums, SPN mod, Randip Singh, don't know if its the same Randip here is against Sant Jarnail Singh ji and calls him a congress associate. Like someone said these anti-gurmat mod's are everywhere. admin cut

This video is a great way of distinguishing who is right and wrong in this whole thing. An honest man never apologizes for the mistakes he has not made, especially in the fashion Niddar Singh did. Infront of the Jathedar of Takhat Sri Hazur Sahib and at Hazur Sahib.

The tilak is a metaphor when used in Gurbani about the Gurus. Make nothing of it.

It all depend on how strong your SIkhi is. If your Sikhi is really strong then looking at another women is nothing and looking down when a women is passing by is a great way to advance in Sikhi. It keeps the desire out of your mind. Keep reading Gurbani to keep kaam in check. Sooner or later this desire will be in check and looking or talking to a women will not bring kaam up. And if you feel the women is in kaam then simply end the conversation in a polite way and walk away. Repeating Waheguru consciously when one of the five thieves present themselves and it will help keep them in check. Kaam affects both and don't blame women for you being a victim of kaam. Same goes for women don't blame men for the kaam that presents itself. If this is happening to you then it's a clear cut indication to do more bhagti. With more bhagti comes shakti and with more shakti comes a better understanding of yourself. Figure out what stage you are at on your Sikhi and take the appropriate precautions to keep yourself in check. This can range from doing bhagti for couple hours straight each day or lowering your eyes when a women walks by or just doing a combination of things to keep progressing on the path of Sikhi. Just don't start hanging yourselves from trees and running in the woods to be yogis. This Chitropakhayan story is the biggest lie I have ever heard. How can our great Guru be tricked by some women. Think about it long and hard before you answer. There is so many things faulty about this story. Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji would have known when one of his helpers lied to him. Then you have Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji running at the end of the story. Come on people, why would he run. The Guru never cares about public opinion. Read Gurbani. Then you have Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji flirting with the women to trick her!!!!!! Get real people. Truth is high, but higher is Truthful living. The Guru will never go against this. Further, you have the women's brother being beaten for doing something he did not do. And the Guru if the story was true would have spoken out that the brother did not steal, once again holding Truthful living higher. Look how this story starts off, Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji wanted to know some mantra.LOL, why in the world would Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji go to another when he is the True Guru himself. For God's sake he is the Guru, not some spiritually unwise person. The Guru that gave us the Khalsa Panth is asking for mantras from other's and running with leaving his clothing and shoes behind. Seriously get real people and stop spreading these fake stories.