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I particularly like Sant Jarnail Singh Ji's point where they mention Peevaho Pahul Khande Dhaar, no where does it say Kirpan Dhaar. Without taking amrit, how does one adopt a Guru?

No, I should not be okay with this excuse as it is a blatant lie (no surprise there!). Just because you produce complete garbage from your copy-and-paste propaganda machines doesn't mean any of us need swallow it (no one with even half a brain would). To this day the Hindustani government has treated its minorities like rubbish. The Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, Dalits and other riff - raff panths (as some tyrannical elitist fascists may put it) are still waiting for justice. Will the government ever deliver???

Of course. ...All the Muslims that were slaughtered and raped in the Gujarat genocide, all the Christians killed, all of the injustices against the Sikhs and the dalits, must have been ISI (!) Tell me something, have the ISI got more power in Hindustan than the actual government? You blame everything on the ISI. Even when it bloody rains you blame the ISI! !! I'm not surprised with this response. Feign and deny all wrong doings. Then, when the truth becomes undeniable, say it was necessary.

Being from England, I partially agree with this. Where as the situation is dire, it's not all bad, but you do have your work cut out for you

Now where did you get this beheading nonsense from!!!? By making such outrageous claims you only damage the credibility of your posts. If you read in to the history of the original Nirankaris, you'll find that they were actually good. The Narakdaris are an offshoot of the original movement, which only started because their founder, Boota Singh was fond of drinking alcohol. Their transgressions against the Sikhs over the years are no secret. As far as Gujarat and Orrissa and the situation with the Dalits goes, are you seriously telling me that you have no knowledge on these? This echos the attitude of a tyrannical administration; deny all oppressions committed. Where the evidence is undeniable, say it was "necessary". I'll leave the googling to you.

For someone who clearly is very well read, you do ask some obvious questions. Have you forgotten the shaheeds of Vaisakhi 1978, who were gunned down by the Nirankaris and the police? I'm sure you haven't, but are selectively choosing to ignore this. As far as the Vienna shooting goes, whilst I appreciate the intentions of the Sikhs, I do not agree with the shooting in any way. I believe that the course of dialogue had not been exhausted. Now, back to my questions. .. What was the fault of the Muslims in Gujarat 2002, or the Christians in Orrissa 2007, or the hundreds of thousands of dalits being raped and killed up and down the country, or any of the other minority riff - raff panths?

Have some bloody shame!!!!! Do you not have any limits? Thus young lad has become shaheed, a mother has lost a son, and all you can think to do is comment on his rowdiness? So, protesting against your totalitarian government is a crime, is it? Why, don't you like minorities having freedom? Honestly, posts like yours get me so worked up!!!! It's one thing to have an opinion, but come on, a young lad has died here. I would say have some respect, but I guess I expect nothing less from people like you. Grow up.

Please re read my post, as it seems you're missing the point. In your brahamanistic totalitarian country, minorities are treated like "riff - raff" (as you so eloquently put it). You have a beef with Sikhs or their religious/political movement, fine. Let's put that to one side. What was the fault of the Muslims in Gujarat in 2002? What was the fault of the Christians in Orrissa 2007? What fault was/is it of the dalits who get raped and looted and killed up and down your genocidal country? Let me guess. ..they're all extremists/taliban/jihadist/ISI/Pakistani intelligence/Afghanistan invaders... It's nice to see how accepting your supreme society is to minority riff - raff.

Fair point. ... I wonder what Mata Sahib Kaur Ji, Mata Bhaag Kaur Ji etc. would say....

Yes, this is not the 16th century, where all of the Hindus were enslaved (feel free to thank the Sikhs for standing up to the invaders). After being enslaved countless number of times by numerous invaders you finally get power, and what do you do? Start butchering the minorities, no different than what your masters did when hindus were still slaves in their own country. You call other religions and panths "riff - raff". On what basis do you hold this holier than thou attitude? Your comments on serve to prove that the hindu administration are extremists and oppressors. 1984 - Sikh genocide 2002 - Muslims in Gujarat 2007 - Christians in Orrissa Hundreds of thousands of dalits being raped and killed up and down the country. But when someone or a community stands up to this injustice, you label them extremists. Need I say more?

Would it be possible for you to post the original text here? Many thanks

Sorry, been extremely busy. Thanks for putting up the video. Only had a chance to hear the first few seconds, where he says that Master Tara Singh made the comment in question. I thought you said Simranjit Singh Mann made it? Anyway, I'll take a look at the video fully and get back to you

I thought so

No no please, get started on these festivals. I'm particularly interested in your view in Vaisakhi

Still waiting for the proof. ...whenever you get a chance, of course.

Come on, let's give home a fair chance to find it first.

Anyone want to play the "we are all Hindu" trumpet now?

Sri Guru Nanak Aap Parmeshar, Avtaar Liye Subh Bans Pardhaana. -Sarbloh Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji

Oh, and "new" intolerant. When have people like you ever been tolerant?

Thank you for your extremist jihadified sentiments.

Then by all means, please post it here.

Your vulgarity notwithstanding, is the same attitude/approach you would have for the Jews who suffered under Nazi regime?

I'm sorry, but what you've got is diddly squat. If the GOI had even a shred of evidence (not the fabricated nonsense churned out by them to brainwash the masses) they would have done something about it when they had Sant Bhindranwale in custody. The fact that you can even suggest that this religious place should be held responsible shows not only that you're (clearly) looking at this from a very biased view point, but also your very extremist/jihadi mentality when it comes to matters of basic human justice.

Sure, why not go one step further and ban anyone and everyone who has been trying to get justice for the Sikhs since 1984! And "sue the Gurdwaras"? Very.....open minded. You don't sound like an extremist at all.

Sure, let us know how that goes