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  1. Why obviously? I know Bhai Randhir Singh died in 1961 and Dr Ganda Singh in 1985 (b 1900)?, but this book was researched many many years before and published a few times no doubt.
  2. Are the Mods members of Jatha's etc though? If they are then I won't stay here, because it led to bad feeling on sikhsangat. What do you mean by traditional?
  3. Hukamnama of Guru Tegh Bahadhur - A Historical Study Sabinderjit Singh Sagar - ISBN 81-7770-047-2 <<<has many fake Hukamnama's. On Dr Ganda Singh's approach Sabinderjit Singh is highly critical. I recommend getting this book. The AKJ one I think. I maybe mistaken (it says on page 2 Bhai Randhir Singh was dispatched to collect them, that is the same right?) was sent to collect Hukamnama's for Dr Gandha's Singh book. Hukamname (ed Dr Ganda Singh) Punjab University Patiala 1969
  4. Wrong on all accounts: 1) I did not write the essay (although I edited it) 2) The Abrahamic ritual is generic, it is only you putting it into the context of Bakra Eid. 3) The Abrahamic ritual explains what sacrifice in the name of God is about. 4) Whether you have a Bakra, Chicken, or elephant is irrelevant, what is relevant is the sacrifice in the name of God. You maybe right, but it makes no difference. Abraham is pre-Islamic and is seen in the Koran as one of the teachers/prophets like Jesus. http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Con.../sacrifice.html Either way if y
  5. You are missing the point. I don't care whether he wrote it or not but this Hukamnama was never verified and was very controversial and has caused massive splits amongst Sikhs. If the handwriting had been verified before this false Hukamnama would never have come forward and the controversy never started.
  6. Why the animosity for Niddar Singh? He seems far beeter read and intellectual than most of the dead beats I see around Smethwick and Soho Road.
  7. Why Agenda based? One author was a vegetarian and the other a meat eater, so why agenda based? The mention of Abraham is just explaining what Bismil and Halal is about. Where is the problem? Who is talking about Bakra eid when any animal can be sacrificed according to affordability? Where is the connection with Bakra's? Why have you assumed Qurbani/Halal/Bismil is only done at Bakra Eid?
  8. http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.g...id=38605#l38605 ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ रामकली महला ५ ॥ Rāmkalī mėhlā 5. Raamkalee, Fifth Mehl: ਈਧਨ ਤੇ ਬੈਸੰਤਰੁ ਭਾਗੈ ॥ ईंधन ते बैसंतरु भागै ॥ Īʼnḏẖan ṯe baisanṯar bẖāgai. The fire runs away from the fuel. ਮਾਟੀ ਕਉ ਜਲੁ ਦਹ ਦਿਸ ਤਿਆਗੈ ॥ माटी कउ जलु दह दिस तिआगै ॥ Mātī ka▫o jal ḏah ḏis ṯi▫āgai. The water runs away from the dust in all directions. ਊਪਰਿ ਚਰਨ ਤਲੈ ਆਕਾਸੁ ॥ ऊपरि चरन तलै आकासु ॥ Ūpar cẖaran ṯalai ākās. The feet are above, and the sky is beneath. ਘਟ ਮਹਿ ਸਿੰਧੁ ਕੀਓ ਪਰਗਾਸੁ ॥੧॥ घट महि सिंधु कीओ परगासु ॥१॥ Gẖat mėh sinḏẖ kī▫o p
  9. No you are not a sheep but you certainly are blind. Blinded by your ego, you arrogance. Please do not lecture me on history, I have exposed your knowledge on sikh history a million times. You cannot even acknowledge the Guru's had Muslim followers. If you cannot acknowledge this you have no hope. Just who the hell do you think you are? You claim to have personal meetings with the Guru's and think you are a Guru yourself? On the contrary, it was the team at SPN who exposed you. For your information, Amanji who runs the site is a strict Vegetarian, so you cannot claim that was
  10. What on earth are you talking about? Were their no Muslims there? Was there no Mardana? Do you not know what happened when Guru Nanak died and people squabbled over his body? You lack basics in Sikh History so how can you be taught? As per usual you have not debunked anything. You have skirted round the issues. I have carefully evidenced and researched everything. I have added writings of notable scholars, and even people like Gyani Sher Singh (phd) from the SGPC. They ALL debunk your claims. You are in a minority. You are a Vaishnavite. Admit it and move on. What you are advocating is
  11. Has this been verified? I have a book on Hukamnama's at the moment (Guru Tagh Bahadhur), and over 50% of them have been proved to be fake. The classic dispute over Hukamna's came about when Bhai Randhir produced one allegedly from the 6th Master on the controversial topic of meat, and it was debunked as not being verified. Not even Gandha Singh could verify it, yet some believed it and it caused massive rifts amongst Sikhs. We have to be very careful in our verification of our Guru's handwritting.
  12. http://www.worldsikhnews.com/21%20January%...mp;%20Truth.htm Sacrifice at Hazur Sahib – Myth & Truth Nanak Singh Nishter A veteran Deccani Sikh himself, the author presents the facts of the honour of weapons at Hazur Sahib and calls for caution in its condemnation. He clears the air over the vegetarian-non-vegetarian debate amongst Sikhs and seeks effective steps to rid Sikh society of unethical and unSikh practices wherever they are practiced. World Sikh News presents these facts, not to foment the debate, but to help build a hypothesis for solution to this never-endin
  13. No thank you for letting me come here. The www.sikh-history.com board had now changed to www.sikhphilosophy.net. It woulf be good to have links with you guys, because I understand you are a non-Jatha/sect aligned forum like us. Is that true?
  14. I think the point is one does not read Bani without understanding the context. One needs to understand the "crowd" the Guru's were talking too. If one looks into the history of where this idea o Quabani, Halal, Bismil comes from then you must understand the Abrahamic faiths like the Guru's and thair audience did, how else could the Guru's make the following assertion: http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.g...id=18290#l18290 Page 397, Line 7 ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਹਭਾ ਹੂੰ ਬਾਹਰਾ ॥ बेद कतेब संसार हभा हूं बाहरा ॥ Beḏ kaṯeb sansār habẖā hūʼn bāhrā. He is beyond the world of the Vedas, the Kora
  15. Musafir ji, you have been defeated on Halal and Bismil too at sikhphilosophy.net, and that is why you ran away. If you don't understand the difference between sacrifice in the name of God and giving thanks to God then you do not understand Sikhism. Like I said before, you are a Vaishnavite masquerading as a Sikh trying to make Sikhs weak and split them. You also made an outrageous claim you knew one of the Guru's personally and that you spoke to him and you physically sat and talked to him. ...and here are the scholars that ALL disagree with you: Throughout Sikh history, there have be
  16. Is this the avtar that you commented on?
  17. Totally do not agree with you! There are no pro or anti Sikh writers, only differing views. For example, I hate some of Mcleods theories, but they are easy to debunk by using his own research. In fact his research is very valuable.
  18. The moderators on siikhsangat are kids. They have little or no knowledge of Sikh history. All they are good for is nindya and causing riots outside thearters.
  19. Dear oh dear, the Vaishnav maat continues here. Ekh Musafir ji how many forums will you be thrown out of? Interestingly Ekh Musafir lost the deabte in this thread, that is why he is here: http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-s...over-flesh.html FOOLS WHO WRANGLE OVER FLESH FOREWARD The authors of this paper (one a vegetarian and one meat eating Sikh) wrangled hard with their own common sense which told them, dont be a fool and start wrangling over an issue which our great Gurus dismissed as not worthy of discussion. We did however feel as amateur Sikh Historians and comme
  20. The Sikh soldiers are serving in Africa in my Avtar. Is it showing now, I still cannot see it?
  21. I am glad the forum is up and it stay popular. I really hope it does not become a flame fest like sikhsangat. I spend most of my time on www.sikhphilosophy.net, but would be interested in keeping ties here too. Thanks Randip Singh
  22. We could go into the ethics of meat eating...animals running...plants not...plants poisoning people to avoid being eaten etc etc.....etc etc............but that has nothing to do with the Spiritual case made by the 10 Nanaks. This essay has anniihalated the falacy that spirituality is connected to whether you eat carrots or chicken or both within Sikhism. Have a think about this: Page 131 Jagjit Singh - The Dynamics Of the Sikh Revolution (Institute of Sikh Studies Chandigarh): Guru Nanak expressed his view about ahimsa in a long hymn, wherein he emphasised the whole life process ha
  23. Lets be clear what we mean by Lust. Lust or Kaam is an unhealthy obsession with sex. It is like an alcoholics addiction to alcohol. Don't confuse them with normal biological instincts. Its not a sin or a crime to have these thoughts. Now if you feel it is Kaam....maybe you need to use that excessive energy in another way. Join a Gym, learn martial arts etc.
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