Beast

Where's my posts!!!! :cry: :idea:

This whole thread is about sex. Deal with it.

So all those so-called "Sikhs" before Guru Gobind Singh Ji have no right to claim that they are Sikhs? You don't need to be an amrit-dharee to be a Sikh. Plenty has been said on topic - use the search facility. Mod's Note: Edited- Keep your hatred to yourself and Spread Love on this forum Also, what if the views on this forum clash with your own? Will you accept the willingness to see sense in what is being said, or will you just leave the forum and go somewhere where they will agree with your views?

^ He wasn't talking about *cheating* on his wife. Hypothetically, all 3 in the relationship are aware and consenting.

Check out the armour page --> the 1st pic is a deadly mace. Lovely jubbly

Probably need to consider how unbiased debka.com is. I found it interesting that it never used the adjective 'unbiased' when describing itself. Also, it promotes analysis of Islam, but not of Judaism itself. Interesting. And the last paragraph is brilliant - "a viable business operation".

Check out the Projects Section (in particular the one about making a 3D image of the Guru Granth Sahib). Also, search carefully and you'll see a Bibi wielding a massive 6ft Gatling gun...damn thing's huge!!

Agree with N3O.

Ironlion, you're digressing very much from the topic at hand, but here goes. Firstly, the first I knew about seperate Amrit Sanchar for 'low castes' was when I read the thread that I gave a link for. So if I didn't agree with any of the points that members had made in that thread I would have raised the issues. As it is, I agreed with members such as lalleshvari when they made the following post in that thread: Obviously I believe that segregation by caste is wrong, but caste is not exclusive to Hindu's alone. Unfortunately, the ideals of seperating societies into divisions based on family lineage is not restricted solely to India. The issue of Amrit for women has been discussed elsewhere many times. Lalleshvari and others have become parrots of sorts because they constantly end up repeating themselves since members never bother using the search facility. You seem to be asking me a question regarding Amrit when those more informed on the subject have expressed their opinions elsewhere on this site already! You've gone from blaming Nihangs for all of Punjab's social problems and for RSS propaganda to discussing the notion of seperate Amrit Sanchar for women, and yet you accuse me of diversing from the topic! :roll: Admin, I have repeatedly asked ironlion to explain his accusation about members of this site who see themselves as part of the hindu Indian nation. He has yet to explain this accusation, yet wants me to answer his questions first even though there are members more knowledgable than myself to give a qualified answer.

Lalleshvari spoke about this some time back: http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...?t=3312&start=0 Thats the problem sometimes with new members, they want answers to questions that have already been asked. Use the search facility! ^ Who on this forum said that people should be split up according to their caste when administering Amrit? Thats disgraceful. Please quote them and give a link to the url. Also, you spoke of 'modern' Budha Dal, yet amandeepm informed us that 'caste' practises were in place as early as the 19th century. ^ Explain. Fully. With specific examples. Also, I see that you didn't question the viewpoint I made about Marijuana. I take it that you have realised the naiivety of your original thoughts regarding drug abuse by youths and 'drug' use by some Nihangs.

Sorry Noor, I was only talking about those Iraqis that beheaded the American, not the entire population.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/tonyparsons/

Admin, if being an American is all about truth, honour and justice, then George Bush is in no way, shape of form an American. And those Iraqis are delusional maniacs who will hopefully one day get their rightful punishemnt. Did anyone read this week's article by Tony Parsons in The Mirror newspaper comparing Blair and Bush to Slobodan Milosovic. Very interesting.

I remember a book written by some Indian guy that my friend had. A lot of Nostradamus' translated quotes were in there, and after each quote the author tried to justify that Nostradamus was actually talking about 'the curse of the evil' Muslims! Some of these quotes were unbelievably abstract - which is why I think that a lot of people manipulate them to suit their own needs. Wasn't there something that suggested Saddam Hussein was going to cause World War 3? Fat chance of that now.

^ Again, specific examples please. Also, these are pretty bold statements from someone who has only been a member for just over two weeks. "Wrong" is a subjective term. For example, some people will say Sant Jarnail Singh was wrong to fortify the Akaal Takht, others will disagree and say that we cannot question him on the basis of his spirituality, and people like me stay neutral (which fantics seem to take as being a stance against Sant Ji). In your case you are deeming the use of bhang as being "wrong". Marijuana may be a good painkiller, but that doesn't mean that it was the sole reason it was used by Nihangs in the past. Think about it, if they hadn't constantly used bhang in the past, then how would they know how to make it and how would they know about its medicinal effects? If you had to go to war right now, eg with the Indian govt, would you know how to make bhang? If not, why not? Its use would be beneficial to you in case you got injured just as it was for the Nihang shaeeds of the past. About the Hindu thing, again please give specific examples. Simple accusations are a blatant attempt to create controversy.

Firstly ironlion I called you a fox, not a wolf. Your question isn't valid whatsoever - you seemed to be confused between use and abuse, just like Guv said. Because Nihangs have no problem with bhang (as long as it is not abused) it seems that you are trying to imply that they are therefore responsible for all the worlds problems. 'Abuse' is a burden on society, 'use' isn't. Your whole argument is based on a very shaky foundation. What next? Are Nihangs responsible for all the meat-eaters in Punjab as well? Most of these kids that are abusing drugs have probably never even met a Nihang in their lives. And even if they had, are you trying to suggest that their meeting turned them from puran Gursikhs (no meat/alcohol/mono-sex/bhang/lust etc) into marauding junkie's looking to mug old grannies to fund their next fix? Secondly, you said that Nihangs promoted Hindu Mat, but failed to elaborate. Some details would be nice.

So by your reckoning, those Nihangs who fought against the government are, by default, tackling the drug abuse and right-wing propaganda today? Instead of being a fox in sheep's clothing why didn't you just get straight to the point with what you wanted to say? You feel that it is up to Nihangs to become the moral adjudicators in Punjab with regards to drugs (seeing as they themselves are 'major drug abusers') and you also want them to form a political party to tackle the far-right RSS. Do you also want them to collect your washing and take it to the laundry on the way to doing all this?

In your own time jjj/gogogogogogogo

^Actually this post was about doing whatever your parents tell you do without questioning them. Its turned into a Sant thing though.

Go to Southall or Handsworth and you will see loads of Jhatka meat shops.

Doesn't this just reopen the debate about non-halal vs Jhatka?

jjj: just read through this thread again from the beginning. Some of your comments are inspiring, but the recurring theme throughout your posts is a sense of arrogance and narrow-mindedness. There are some good things in your posts, but its all a matter of filtering them through. Also, on the back of some of your posts, I would just like to ask you what your spiritual state was when you made the following childish thread: http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...ight=monay+lion

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My takallus isn't "Warnings1", its Beast. lol Where the hell did that question abt steel beams come from? And why do you want me to answer you first, your ego perhaps? You gave me many examples of famous figures who sacrificed their livelihood for the sake of their parents. I gave you one example of why its nice to have that ideal of doing everything your parents want of you, but in reality its not that simple.