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Look at the sikhs of the past they lived in jungles and attacked at night. When was their amritvela? Slavery, and lack of rule is turning us dogmatic instead of pragmatic. It is happening around the world to deen; we are the only ones with a system to reverse it.

@kdsingh80 gurujis hukam is to stay tyaar. Furthermore it may just be that Punjabis went to Islam to escape caste as that was created to destroy bhudism. Ghazni had to try 17 times to invade, and it took Arabs 70 years to conquer makaraj in south baloch after trying every other route; it took them 8 to reach morrocco and turkey. At the time muslim armieswere professionals bharatis were levies so sikh dharam elevated human martial spirit further but gurus took root in Punjab for a reason. Pathans really aren't that scary and while brave have just become bacha bazis. Is it true theyre called that due to settling in Patna? Finally, again atkdsingh80 the funny thing is that license means for commercial use as the const. Is a commercial document youll find case law all across the commonwealth that the only rule is no injury, damage, or fraud; however an established common law principle is w.e force deeked nessecary to protect liberty queen elizabeth swears to this and still runs south asia. Why u think there gov general? Going Back to pathans they arm to the teeth and know their tribe and identity well. An armed society is also one that is closer, and more friendly a brotherhood which is what guruji envisioned. You should also know police swear to uphold the peace, and are a reactionary force. Your protection is up to you, however when out of danger you are supposed to go to court. This however only applies for a functioning society of law, not a masquerade that only doesn't nuke punjab, because it eats food grown there. VJKVJF

Also, Bibi Bhani ji daughter of guru amar das ji requested that the gur-ghuddi stay in the family, after she put her foot or hand under to support a broken tub when he was bathing. As dashmesh pita ji sacrificed his whole family, no physical human could take the place of next guru anyway. VJKVJF

You mis-understand what I said; please research some of the things the singh sabha and british actually did to split the sikh panth from what should be 200+ million to 20| As well as the myth of centuries of muslim rule, when only akbar had anything close and that was really with punjab/rajput permission and alliance| I am not interested in my own weakness, this body will come and go with the wind and the dust|| VJKVJF

You mis-understand what I said; please research some of the things the singh sabha and british actually did to split the sikh panth from what should be 200+ million to 20 I am not interested in my own weakness, this body will come and go with the wind and the dust|| VJKVJF

You don't have to go to Amritsar, understand the concept of Saint-Soldier and let it be your guide. The guru is a guide, you are not a follower of the guru, rather a student. You learn at your own pace, and do your own thing. We would never be followers of anything or anyone, except for the will of god himself. Just peace, love, and sword-play that's Sikhi. VJKVJF edit - You're already a sikh, or on the path to it so just keep reading; there are people who 'know' more but understand we are all human, and stand in the same pool. We can only hope to take Amrit from that pool and understand what it means. Either, way, Khalistan Zindabad. Punjab Zindabad. You, know. Without dharam, raj is nothing; without raj dharam cannot survive. - Guru Gobind Singh Ji

It's because we've taken to acting like Muslims, something not even Punjabi muslims used to do; we're caught up in tamougan aka ignorance and who besides jihadis has the prize for that?

My parents say probably 1/4 granthis drink secretly.. It's because we're trying to be all puritan and orthodox and forcing people into things instead of understanding that Sikhi comes from the soul. We've essentially started to act like Muslims, due to repeated attacks so the enemy's work is working; we're forgetting who we are, and getting caught up in only tamougan and look what's happening.

We don't die, multiply. VJKVJF

http://ramblingsofasikh.blogspot.ca/2012/01/how-far-and-in-what-ways-did-british.html Is this accurate? Idk, because I thought that only an amritdhari is a true sikh, and that we don't deal with devte. Or that chandi ma is not actually worshipped it seems like the article is finding every way to pull sikhs in;there were also many movements created because bramin and dogra influence had started seeping in and changing sikhi so, Idk. Could it http://www.panthkhalsa.org/raj/raj_be.php be that since there was a fold of sikh power it was cooler to associate with it? I know of punjabi hindus who worship guru tegh bahadur ji Idk about all others but they are jewelers not bramins. Btw forum software really buggy on mobile.

http://ramblingsofasikh.blogspot.ca/2012/01/how-far-and-in-what-ways-did-british.html Is this accurate? Idk, because I thought that only an amritdhari is a true sikh, and that we don't deal with devte. Confused. I wish to preserve ancestral practices will elaborate when sun rises.

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2012/06/02/ram-bomjon-the-buddha-boys-reign-of-terror-continues/ Editor doesn't work on my phone sorry, but also wondering what's going origin of the names Sikhs use cuz I wouldn't be able to gov it atm. His sister's name is ranjita which is proly said as Ranjit so yea..

I just read a post about bramins claiming buddy as an avatar to destroy bhuddism. That it was the majority religion of India and that hibduism was created after it. Some of it seems to be low self esteem doit induced propaganda but there is truth in it.

Is it because we don't teach about our entire history? I remember punjabi school in Canada talked about Guru his etc but with Muslims in seats of power. Nothing about Chamkaur, in detail, nothing about baba bagel Singh, baba jassa Singh ahluwalia, or anything to showcase a modern martial spirit. I thought we had become colonized like others didn't know about the gaddars and that we won militarily. In our effort to be accepted, and loved by Al we're losing our shine, and this is reflecting to sisters and daughters. How hard is it to pop through guy, what's the point of a corrupt Punjab Police then?

Lol dalits were original before Aryan hjndus invaded. Listen to this joker, saying from 1984 middle class uses lower to destroy upper then calls army on lower to control them. These activists don't have the same sikh society where fighting injustice, is encouraged, and the bhuddism thing is not well known, they will be corrupted in the end. The people seem to have no confidence, and act like they are lower than others. I see it with south v north where south think north must be like this, that when it comes to skin tone, class, caste etc. A lot of it has to do with the whole racial angle put on the caste system,and projecting your oppression onto others, when they are not your oppressor only creates more enemies. An example is with racism, being against every white man or person; hut like the op said, British imperialism doesn't mean the British people, not every person is benefitting from a system, and people are people. Can't type more on touch but the Khalsa panth is the one just system.

Few notes about the invasion theory; firstly, the date used was an approximation based on the bible being 0 ad and the world beginning in 4k bc. They used buddy as being 500bc and put the invasion as a bit before that. A bunch of bs, used by south Indians to justify their skin color problems, and insecurities about being protected for millenia. Finally, you understand that some British kunjar whose brothers surrendered to the Khalsa, every time tried to say that someone cam to Punjab and forced Punjabis off the land? Aryan is a word used to mean noble, w.e else is w.e. I read that Punjabi is the worlds oldest language and that the vehicle language is closer to Punjabi than to sanskrit. So... Again, Punjab. They said they invaded Punjab, and then they had a funeral.

Dharam, raj to bina nahi reh sakda.

What's the malayalam question?

This is why Sikhs need to know about allodial land titles aka land patents. Many predate constitution, and then only if there is a problem can anyone bring a 'lawsuit'. Let the slaves bicker, it's like the people arguing about arms in the community, at some town hall meeting, and I'm sitting there armed myself. No approval process, no 'standards', tax or any of that garbage. Land held in free and common soccage, law of the land being no injury, fraud, or damage. As much as this system tries to shield people from this (racism) it also encourages it. Better to separate ourselves from it, know the 'rules' of where we're living, and use them to fight injustice. Example, no need for license on the road. Not always, good idea. But you can, VJKVJF

I find it to be the opposite. I find the Hindus get into a huffy puffy about the Sikhs, especially when they say they are not part of the so called "Hindu brotherhood". From my experience, its always the Hindus (and muslims) who can't handle that the Sikhs are an independant nation. They always use the "yeah but guru nanak was born into a hindu family"...this is when the party starts. --- I think we should stop trying to be everyone's friend, accepting of others means you don't take random action against because they are different. It doesn't holding the hands and saying I love you of all the Shiv Sena Presidents (you, how singhs keep making them be replaced ) -- We don't have to emulate the mannerisms or the attitude of the old khalsa, just do our thing too but follow gurmat, and gurbani. Different shastars call for a different attitude; the mentality with a fighter jet is different from a tank, than to a sword. Guru Gobind Singh Ji even tells us this no? -- Off-topic I know.

Or what about scaring and pushing black women into it more than anyone. Another fact is, female abortions are a problem but are not the sole cause for gender imbalance in Punjab (which is what I know is on everyone's mind). There's statistics to point out that Punjab had skewed gender ratios from the 1800s and is getting better now. --- People do it, unless you want to get real and pop doctors who do this for murder, just raise your daughters and de-cry it in social circles. If you do it subtly you marginalize that person and change the culture within that circle making it less likely to happen in the future with them or someone else.

Culture, community, and connection. Hunter-gatherer groups have about half of people living to 65 or older. In 1845 we would have had many people alive who would have told youth about the ghulugharras or later fights. Remember the time period; we took Delhi and then left it, ahluwalia, baghel singh, and so many others were all there. We had a Sikh raaj. They grew up in a time where, Let me put it like this, who else do you know gets the strongest military in the world less than 100 years after being created? -- I see the same culture coming back though, look at this: // It'll take some effort, but we'll be fine.

"I do not think I could go through today’s amrit because it appears more like a prison sentence So, like when I think that it is also like this, and my dad agrees we actually have some merit to it despite being mone atm. I always thought beside the obvious like drugs, or cutting hair only you can break your amrit in a sense. I'm no prisoner, only a slave of god/guru.