wahegurubol Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 This is a punishment given to a girl who fell in love with a boy in Iraq. The rest of it in the video is self-explanatory Download it and see http://peacepalpitations.com/ppp.wmv 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Maybe you should add that this happened in Kurdistan among the Yazidi tribe. The girl was lynched because she was in love with a Muslim boy. Yezidis practise a cult that worships Satan as Malik e Tawus, the peacock angel. Such practises are not legal under Iraqi law under the present government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahegurubol Posted November 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 hey man, when the girl was being stoned.. they were chanting "ALLAH AKBAR" also see this site http://www.faithfreedom.org 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maha Kharag Singh Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Maybe you should add that this happened in Kurdistan among the Yazidi tribe. The girl was lynched because she was in love with a Muslim boy. Yezidis practise a cult that worships Satan as Malik e Tawus, the peacock angel. Such practises are not legal under Iraqi law under the present government. i presume this is ur new guise bahadur 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 1. Islamic executions are not recognised by Iraqi law. 2. I didn't see and member of clergy in that video let alone the usual execution methods for stoning. 3. This is a public lynching that has nothing to do with Islamic or Iraqi law. Anyways what was your point and what were you trying to prove with that website? Aren't women the victims of violence in all countries? Why do you always chose Islamic countries when India itself is no better on that front? People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Atleast they dont BRUTALLY kill an innocent boy JUST because he was in love! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Are you so sure? Maybe you should read this: http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020604/ldh1.htm http://news.monstersandcritics.com/india/n...ped_in_hospital http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=55142 Stop blaming Muslims of evils all humans practise. Such violence exists everywhere. Not just in Muslim countries. And yes Maha Kharag Singh I am Bahadur, you have a problem with that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 This barbaric behaviour is not unique to Kurdish speakers (even though this case is one of only a few ever reported), Iran is also guilty of this barbaric prehistoric punishment, more so as it one hand claims to be a "civilised, cultured and sophisticated" nation. http://www.ncr-iran.org/content/view/3593/127/ http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/07/11/iran16378.htm http://www.amnesty.nl/voor_de_pers_artikel/21134 http://www.iran-e-azad.org/stoning/ http://www.iran-e-azad.org/stoning/women.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 And the US executes three times more people than Iran. So what's the lesson? EVERYONE DOES IT! Got the point? Except the US and Iran do it within the frame of the law. You commit a crime: you suffer the consequence. Logical no? Adultery is a crime in Iran. You commit adultery guess what will happen? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Yes India is just as bad. Only difference is that its judicial system does not advocate these heinous crimes. US citizens are not actively involved in murdering the guilty party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 So who executes the guilty? Mexcian gardners? What hypocrisy! A jury takes decisions that may condemn a person to death. It makes no difference if they throw a stone at the executed or order his execution: they are responsible in the execution. Some just sit on a chair and decide for a person to get electrocuted others thow stones. The responsibility is the same. You talk of heinous crimes but you never take into account the crimes of the guilty executed. It's pure hypocrisy. Last year they executed two guys in Qom who had killed a whole family whilst breaking into their house. They did it in font of the shrine of Hazrat-i %aasumeh (as). Do you seriously think anyone felt compassion for these sinners? I am just amazed by your hypocrisy! Is that all you guys can do? Post videos of unlawful lynching in Iraq to feel better about yourselves and about the thousands of baby girls that die every year in your community? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Read the links I've posted Javanmard, these people did not deserve to be stoned to death. And there is a difference between a quick death and torturous/excruciating dragged out death. Stoning is an out-dated and barbaric, one could say the same for corporal punishment, but if it is to be used, it should at least be quick and not involve the general public enjoying taking part or spectating. This barbaric and fanatical dictatorship is the exact reason so many Iranians seek asylum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 And judicial errors don't happen in th US? What a joke! Who are you to say that what God ordered is outdated? Isn't wearing a turban in the 21st century in the UK outdated and out of place? Ridiculous statement! I have been to both countries and both have their good and bad sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 "Who are you to say that what God ordered is outdated?" God didn't give that order to me or many others. How is wearing a turban in the UK today outdated? Turban wearing Sikhs enjoy success in every sphere of professional life in the UK, in most cases the stand alone identity helps Sikhs get recognised and remembered for their contributions up and above their native colleagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahegurubol Posted November 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Safavi, leave all arguments aside. The time when those guys were kicking the girl in the stomach and face and smashing huge bricks on her head..they were all chanting "ALLAH O AKBAR" What do you have to say that? and answer me dammit ! dont point fingers at other as an execuse to hide your own crimes ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Wahegurubol Iraqi law doesn't allow this do you understand that? Does it get into your head? It's like saying that if a bunge of pindoos rape a Bihari girl and shout sat sri akal that all of Sikhi is bad. You are so thick! Shaheediyan, of course turbans are ok. In the same way laws that have been given by God to humanity are valid wherever, whenever! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahegurubol Posted November 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MSVx_oGz9k Just have a look at this. More honor killings and all women are muslims in this ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 I have worked on enough honour killing cases in the UK with police to know how bad the situation is wahegurubol. It so happens that it also happens in Sikh families. Violence is committed by all male dominated communities be it Sikhs, Muslims, Hindus etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Uo_c8CwUg Are we to base a whole population based on this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 And judicial errors don't happen in th US? What a joke! Who are you to say that what God ordered is outdated? Isn't wearing a turban in the 21st century in the UK outdated and out of place? Ridiculous statement! I have been to both countries and both have their good and bad sides. Sometimes what God Orders has nothing to do with how a man uses those orders to fullfill his own personal sadistic desire to do 'God's Work'? 'Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone'. Would you take part in such a God Ordered act Safavi, rather would you be able to do it on your own, all by yourself without a mob? Ask one man to stone someone to death, he will hardly have the guts to do it, ask 100 men to stone someone to death and all will jump the chance because the guilt and the responsibility falls on the Mob not the individual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahegurubol Posted November 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 It so happens that it also happens in Sikh families. Again, you are pointing fingers at others as an excuse to hide your own mistakes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 i Have a record of helping the British police in honour killing cases that have included Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims. I have never commited any illegal act. So shut up! All you do is spread hatred against one community. Was I in that video you showed? No so shut up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahegurubol Posted November 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 what do you do to mullahs like these safavi then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehtab Singh Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Thats Anjum Chaudhry. He is former head of Al Muhajiroun, a severely fanatical group, and I am not sure if its outlawed or not yet. He isn't Shia either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safavi Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Wahegurubol admin cut! HT and Mujahiroun are my arch ennemies you idiot! Had you spend more time around edgeware road you'd find out how they try to provoke us Shi'as on a contsant basis. They try to convert Shi'a girls to Sunnism and regularly hold rallies against Shi'as.That guy isn't even a cleric. You are so ignorant Wahegurubol you have no credibility. The people I support are rather people like this Shi'a cleric: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuLbdy6FH3M or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlxaXyF6lYo About time you start getting a bit of education... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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