SAadmin Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 This thread is dedicated for debate and discussion with the group who does not believe in Bhai Gurdas Ji Varan being key to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I just wanted to remind the rules- one liner bold statements are not allowed against Bhai Gurdas Ji Varan. One must back up the claims with one puratan source or at least logical reasoning for debate to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Guru Naanak Dev Jee is singing. ਮੂਲ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਸਾਇਣੁ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪੂਰਾ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੫॥ Bhai Gurdaas Jee is singing. ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਮੂਲ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਸਿਮਰਣੁ ਪਰਵਾਣੈ । So-called Sikh Preachers are singing. Mool Mantra is ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ My curiosity is to know. Who is singing Truth? Balbir Singh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Balbir SIngh, give me the vaar you are referancing and i will check the taksal katha which is in a question and answer format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and Kam1825 Jee! It is the Vaar 6, Pauree 19 and line 2 from Bhai Gurdaas Jee. Balbir Singh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Guru Amardaas Jee is singing. ਜੀਵਤੁ ਮਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੈ ॥ jeevatu marai hari naamu vakhaanai. ਐਸਾ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਉਤਮੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ aisaa bhagutee utamu hoi. ਨਾਨਕ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਸੋਇ ॥੨॥ naanak sachi samaavai soi ||2|| SGGS Ang 88 ----- Bhai Gurdaas Jee is singing. ਚਾਰੋ ਅਛਰ ਇਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਜਪਾਵੈ । chaaro achhar iku kari vaahaguroo japu mantr japaavai| ਜਹਾ ਤੇ ਉਪਜਿਆ ਫਿਰਿ ਤਹਾ ਸਮਾਵੈ ॥੪੯॥੧॥ jahaa tay upajiaa dhiri tahaa samaavai ॥49॥1॥ Pauri 1, Vaar 49 ----- My curiosity is to know. Who is singing Truth? Balbir Singh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 How about actually providing your understanding/breakdown of the shabd & vaar and telling us why you think they are not compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and shaheediyan Jee! Please come to know true Simran and find Truth yourself. Sikhs belonging to the worldly religion Sikhism went astray, in my view, since they started replacing God's Names with the exclamatory expression 'Waahiguru'. Balbir Singh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 You are trying to instigate the same debate we had here last year or whenever it was, where you were provided with plenty of adequate responses. N30 Ji, please move this content over to the thread where this exact discussion has already been had, it was after the reposnes that Balbir Singh went on a sabbatical, no point discussing the same thing again. Admin Note: As shaheediyan pointed out, this is already been discussed. Here are the two link this topic was discussed in the past: http://www.sikhawareness.com//index.php?sh...0&hl=Gurdas http://www.sikhawareness.com//index.php?sh...2&hl=Gurdas Topic closed due to duplicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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