Sting Operations In The Gurdwara's?

[SAadmin]

Hello,

I just like to open discussion how sangat feels about group running sting operations in the Gurdwara to tackle abuse of sangat's money and to expose other abuse of power by sevadars or committee members in the Gurdwara.

To do this- one probably needs 4 or 5 in a group, but most importantly an clear understanding whats beadhi and whats not? http://www.sikhawareness.com//index.php?showtopic=10312 and also to avoid guerrilla type of photo journalism that websites famous panthic.org adhere to.

Any ideas? This is real people, real life, real people, real consequences, real infiltration, real string operations, real journalism, real activism, real awareness to the sangat and real POSITIVE RESULTS...!!!!!!!!

Here invoking an momentum for debate on legal issues:

http://www.spygadgetonline.ca/index.php?cP...0dce04388faac58

how's this one for starters? let alone legal issues one have to do deal with after wrong doing of powerful people/panth da thakedars are exposed after sting operations.

Please discuss...!

[valli singh]

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[SURYADEV]

Why not just ask the old Bibian sitting at the back of the Diwan hall. Amongst all the gossiping and comparing of new salwars you will no doubt find nuggets of gold about what really happens behind the scenes!

[Maha Kharag Singh]

Well the Golak Scandal at Glidden seems to justify such actions,

placing a covert camera somewhere is not beadbi as Gurdwaras commonly are

now equipped with security cameras to protect against vandalism, so what's wrong

with covert cameras to protect aginst (inside) theft?

Before anyone considered doing anything like this the first step would be

to consult a lawyer to find out what is legally permissible and within the scope of

the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

All you'd really need to do is send in a new granthi/sevadar, probably an older guy

and let him fish around for a few weeks until he finds something.

If caught red handed the gurdwara pardhans and comitees will be too embarrassed to take legal action against cameras because that would result in more exposure. Either way no jurisdiction apart from the sovereignty of Satguru has power inside a Gurdwara. Therefore in order to protect that sovereignty no laundering of money can occur. Therefore the children of Satguru have every right to preform sting operations.

[Mithar]

Well the Golak Scandal at Glidden seems to justify such actions,

placing a covert camera somewhere is not beadbi as Gurdwaras commonly are

now equipped with security cameras to protect against vandalism, so what's wrong

with covert cameras to protect aginst (inside) theft?

I think that the Golak scandal in the Glidden Gurdwara was a fraud. I saw the video on youtube it doesn’t show or prove anything. The guy who made the video tapes was a kirtaniya at the Gurdwara. Why did he wait 3 yrs to release the video? Because he was paid by the opposition party to release the video and tarnish the name of the man seen in the video. Let us please not beleive in everything blindly. Sometimes many of these 'Defenders of the Truth' have their own agenda at hand, which is anything but 'truth'.

[SURYADEV]

If caught red handed the gurdwara pardhans and comitees will be too embarrassed to take legal action against cameras because that would result in more exposure. Either way no jurisdiction apart from the sovereignty of Satguru has power inside a Gurdwara. Therefore in order to protect that sovereignty no laundering of money can occur. Therefore the children of Satguru have every right to preform sting operations.

In Utopia that may be but here in the UK and the West the lawyers, police and accountants reign supreme. Everytime there is aa argument in the temples these three arbitrators invariably get involved to sort our mess out.