kdsingh80 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/14/cbi-wants-to-prosecute-tytler-in-1984-riots-case.htm The Central Bureau of Investigation has sought permission to prosecute Congress leaders Jagdish Tytler and Sajjan Kumar, accused in the 1984 anti-Sikh riots, Home Minister P Chidambaram [ Images ] said on Monday. The CBI has completed the investigation and re-investigation of seven cases against Tytler, Kumar and late Dharam Das Shastri, Chidambaram informed the Rajya Sabha. "While in four cases, the CBI has sought permission under Section 196 of the Criminal Procedure Code from the Competent Authority to prosecute the accused persons, in one case, the closure has been filed and accepted by the court," he said. The home minister was responding to a Calling Attention motion on the progress of relief for the victims and the steps taken to punish the guilty involved in the anti-Sikh riots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 It's hard not to think of this as yet another wild goose chase for public consumption. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Well sikhs are angry with Badal for recent Ashutosh incident .Already sikh bodies have asked to boycott Badal.So may be congress could try to win over sikhs.After all its all politics 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 That's the thing though. 1984 is like a political tool. BJP use it to attack Congress when attacked about the Babri Mosque/Gujerat episodes. If we had any sort of skilled diplomatic leader they should easily be able to use the BJP to finally have a proper hearing on the 1984 murders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 That's the thing though. 1984 is like a political tool. BJP use it to attack Congress when attacked about the Babri Mosque/Gujerat episodes. If we had any sort of skilled diplomatic leader they should easily be able to use the BJP to finally have a proper hearing on the 1984 murders. I think at present many parties are putting pressure on congress on 1984.Even in Liberhan report many parties attacked the report and congress for bailing out central govt of that time.The reason is simple BJP is now declining party and power of congress is increasing day by day which is a big threat for many regional parties as well as BJP .So Anything available against cong is being used 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I don't think Congress would ever send one of their own to the gallows. Only someone from outside would/could do this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/newdelhi/L-G-to-decide-on-action-in-84-case/Article1-486616.aspx The government on Monday said it would advise the Lt Governor of Delhi to take a decision by month-end on the CBI application seeking permission for the prosecution of Congress leaders Jagdish Tytler and Sajjan Kumar in the 1984 anti-Sikh riots cases. "We have advised the L-G to take the decision as early as possible…he must decide before the end of the month," Home Minister P Chidambaram informed the Rajya Sabha on Monday. Pacifying the agitated members during a Calling Attention Motion on the Sikh riots, he said L-G Tejendra Khanna is the "competent authority to take a decision" and not the Centre. "The CBI has completed investigation/reinvestigation of seven cases registered against Tytler, Kumar and Dharam Das Shastri (now dead). It has sought permission to prosecute the accused in four cases," said the minister. HT had earlier reported about the CBI having sought permission to prosecute Tytler and Kumar. Admitting "inaction" during the last 25 years, Chidambaram blamed it on legal hurdles and said a law should have been made to ensure that the guilty were not let off the hook. The action against Delhi Police personnel for dereliction of duty has been "most unsatisfactory," Chidambaram said, during a five-hour debate. "In the last 25 years, the delinquent persons who got away with no punishment is the police," he replied to a motion moved by independent MP Tarlochan Singh. Leader of Opposition Arun Jaitley said, "What happened in 1984 was not a 'riot'. It was a state-sponsored massacre of innocents. It was a revenge killing of thousands with the active connivance of the state." He said 300 people died in police firing during the Gujarat riots. "How many were injured or died in police firing during 1984 riots?" he asked. Shiromani Akali Dal Leader Naresh Gujral said his father I.K. Gujral and others had met then Home Minister Narasimha Rao and "begged him to call the Army". "The Army was not called. It just waited for permission, 20 kilometre on the outskirts of Delhi," he added. He asked the Home Minister to permit the CBI to prosecute all those named by the Nanavati Commission, which probed the 1984 riots, within three days. CPI (M) leader Brinda Karat said many persons killed were reported as missing and their families did not get any compensation. She said the Congress regime "lacked political will" during the riots. The then West Bengal Chief Minister Jyoti Basu had dared anyone who attacked the Sikh community in the state and therefore there was no riot, she said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Tytler let off again? http://www.zeenews.com/news587650.html Pending 1984 riots cases not against Tytler: New Delhi: The Home Ministry on Tuesday said that four cases in connection with anti-Sikh riots cases in Delhi in 1984 are pending with the competent authority for sanction of prosecution and these do not relate to Congress leader Jagdish Tytler. In a press statement, the Ministry said that in his statement in response to a Calling Attention Motion in Rajya Sabha yesterday and in his further reply Home Minister P Chidambaram had referred to the sole case against Tytler. "In one case after completion of investigation, charge-sheet was filed in the court on September 28, 2007 and final report, under Section 173 of the CrPC, was filed in the court on March 28, 2009, which is under consideration of the court", the statement said. The Ministry statement said the other cases do not relate to Tytler. "In his statement as well as the clarifications, the minister had said that four cases are pending with the competent authority for sanction of prosecution. These cases do not relate to Jagdish Tytler and, in fact, no reference was made to Jagdish Tytler while referring to these four cases," the ministry statement said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSG Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 who is prosecuting Tytler? It seems as if they are not doing a convincing job or the latter ,i.e I am not surprised at the results , regardless of wheter substantial evidence is produced , its who you know in India that counts . ( I wont go into too much detail , my bag got stolen in India last March 2009 which had my passport , British Embassy made my passport in 2 days , but the indian embassy in Delhi would not endorse my 6 month photo copy of my visa I had so that I could exit India , neither would the indian embassy in UK willing to help , they caused me so much grief , kept calling me back to their offices in delhi for no apparent reason ( 2 trips were made from Punjab to Delhi) in the end I had to pay 4000 Rs , then my passport was stamped with an exit visa in 30 mins, yes 30 mins , surprise , surprise --, point being as you are are probably aware of it until all sikhs talk the same talk , walk the same walk throughout the world, we can rely on a leader or leaders who has the ability to make and act on decisions , these people will get away and have done so with murder . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Sorry to hear about DSG but it seems to be a common story for those who go back home and lose their passport. Advice to everyone. If you're going back home, keep your passport on your person at all times. I brought one of those traveling holster type carriers and kept mine with me at all times because I had heard so many stories like the above. Hell, I even went to sleep with it I think. Which may be going too far......but.....you know.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 DSG is lucky only rs.4000 .Corruption in India is way of Life.NRI's are also considered as moti murgiyaan for halal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSG Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Thanks Guys, its an experience I will not forget Plus :- i have a contact now in the indian embassy , anyone unfortunate to lose their passport , i'll give you the guys details ( you will not have to queue up , go direct to him and your pasport will be stamped in 30 mins ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Thanks Guys, its an experience I will not forget Plus :- i have a contact now in the indian embassy , anyone unfortunate to lose their passport , i'll give you the guys details ( you will not have to queue up , go direct to him and your pasport will be stamped in 30 mins ) Ki tusi vi apna commission fix kar liya usde naal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSG Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 if you cant beat them join them . On a serious note , i will email them , see what they have to say ( they probably wont respond) but at least they will be made aware , especially with the commonwealth games being hosted in Delhi next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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