paapiman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Warning: Sexually explicit material below. Daas will kindly request sangat, below the age of 25 or people who are greatly affected by Lust, to stay away from this discussion. Please read the Charitar: Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paapiman Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 There are differing interpretations to the verse below. ਮਹਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਬਿਖੈ ਤਸਕਰ ਰਹੈ ਅਪਾਰ ॥ According to Bindra, thieves would come to Mahan Singh's house, which alludes to his house being a crime scene of robberies. According to Nara saab, thieves used to live at Mahan Singh's house, possibly indicating that his house was a hub for the robbers. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 It should be obvious by now that the chariters are not solely about women deceiving men, and have many other themes within. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said: It should be obvious by now that the chariters are not solely about women deceiving men, and have many other themes within. You are right. Even if you study these Charitars with an objective mind and not with a devoted religious mind, still one can learn so much from them. Some Charitars (like this one) don't even have any sexual imagery in them. So, one cannot claim that all Charitars are erotic tales. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਮਹਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਬਿਖੈ ਤਸਕਰ ਰਹੈ ਅਪਾਰ ॥ In the house of Mahaan Singh, there used to come a number of thieves. ਨਿਤਿਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਤਾ ਕੇ ਲ੍ਯਾਵਹੀ ਅਧਿਕ ਖਜਾਨੋ ਮਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ They always stole lot of wealth and took that to their homes.(1) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਹਰਨ ਦਰਬੁ ਤਸਕਰ ਚਲਿ ਆਯੋ ॥ ਸੋ ਗਹਿ ਲਯੋ ਜਾਨ ਨਹਿ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ A thief came to steal one day and was caught. Mahaan Singh told ਮਹਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਯੌ ਕਹਿਯੋ ॥ ਤੁਮ ਅਪਨੇ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਦ੍ਰਿੜ ਰਹਿਯੋ ॥੨॥ him to remain firm in his heart.(2) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਤੁਮਰੇ ਸਿਰ ਪਰ ਕਾਢਿ ਕੈ ਠਾਢੇ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਤਰਵਾਰਿ ॥ ‘They (the police) might put a sharp sword above your head, ਤੁਮ ਡਰਿ ਕਛੁ ਨ ਉਚਾਰਿਯੋ ਲੈ ਹੋਂ ਜਿਯਤ ਉਬਾਰਿ ॥੩॥ ‘But you don’t show any dread as I will save you.(3) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਤੁਮ ਕੋ ਮਾਰਨ ਕੌ ਲੈ ਜੈਹੈਂ ॥ ਕਾਢਿ ਭਗਵੌਤੀ ਠਾਢੇ ਹ੍ਵੈਹੈਂ ॥ ‘They might try to take you to kill, as they would have drawn the swords. ਢੀਠਤੁ ਆਪਨ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਗਹਿਯਹੁ ॥ ਤ੍ਰਾਸ ਮਾਨਿ ਕਛੁ ਤਿਨੈ ਨ ਕਹਿਯਹੁ ॥੪॥ ‘You must remain resolute and, getting fearful, don’t reveal any thing.(4) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਤਾ ਕੌ ਢੀਠ ਬਧਾਇ ਕੈ ਕਾਢਿ ਲਈ ਤਰਵਾਰਿ ॥ He, then, tied him up and drew the sword. ਤੁਰਤ ਘਾਵ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਕਿਯੋ ਹਨਤ ਨ ਲਾਗੀ ਬਾਰਿ ॥੫॥ He, instantly, struck him to injure and then killed.(5) ਤਾ ਕੋ ਹਨਿ ਡਾਰਤ ਭਯੋ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਪਾਯੋ ਖੇਦ ॥ By killing him he felt no remorse. ਗਾਵ ਸੁਖੀ ਅਪਨੇ ਬਸਿਯੋ ਕਿਨੂੰ ਨ ਜਾਨ੍ਯੋ ਭੇਦ ॥੬॥ He commenced living a peaceful life in his village and no body ever perceived the mystery.(6)(1) ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਪਖ੍ਯਾਨੇ ਪੁਰਖ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰੇ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੀ ਭੂਪ ਸੰਬਾਦੇ ਬਾਸਠਵੋ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਸਮਾਪਤਮ ਸਤੁ ਸੁਭਮ ਸਤੁ ॥੬੨॥੧੧੧੨॥ਅਫਜੂੰ॥ Sixty-second Parable of Auspicious Chritars Conversation of the Raja and the Minister, Completed with Benediction.(62)(1112) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 On 8/26/2018 at 3:19 PM, paapiman said: There are differing interpretations to the verse below. ਮਹਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਬਿਖੈ ਤਸਕਰ ਰਹੈ ਅਪਾਰ ॥ According to Bindra, thieves would come to Mahan Singh's house, which alludes to his house being a crime scene of robberies. According to Nara saab, thieves used to live at Mahan Singh's house, possibly indicating that his house was a hub for the robbers. I would go with the second interpretation from the word "ਰਹੈ ". The theme of this charitar says to me : "there is no honour amongst thieves." The thief himself came to steal from other thieves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 On 3/29/2019 at 5:41 PM, chatanga1 said: ਤੁਮ ਕੋ ਮਾਰਨ ਕੌ ਲੈ ਜੈਹੈਂ ॥ ਕਾਢਿ ਭਗਵੌਤੀ ਠਾਢੇ ਹ੍ਵੈਹੈਂ ॥ Interesting to see this word used as 'sword' here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Well noticed Dal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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