Gurmukhs/brahmgyanis

[PCSJZ]

Wjkk wjkf

I have a question that I need some help on. We hear that a real Gurmukh treats everyone the same and shows no impartiality to different people as they see Waheguru in all. 
 

What then if you think you are experiencing this? As in you feel that a Gurmukh is treating you differently to others which leaves you feeling a little upset? I appreciate that our avastha is not high enough to understand what a Gurmukh is thinking but still any insight would be greatly appreciated. 
 

Hope the question is clear and not confusing.

 

Wjkk Wjkf

[Guest Singh]

8 hours ago, PCSJZ said:

As in you feel that a Gurmukh is treating you differently to others which leaves you feeling a little upset?

Vaheguru Jio.

Gurbani says - Dsi avat hai bahut bhihala. Sagal charan ki ih man rala (ang 384)

Sometimes it looks like they are angry, but from inside they are the dust of everyone's feet

But is said person actual 'gurmukh' or not? - probably only some who has power to see can identify them. 

Sat sri akal ji 

[Guest Singh]

Sorry I mean - Dis avat hai 

[Sikhilove]

10 hours ago, PCSJZ said:

Wjkk wjkf

I have a question that I need some help on. We hear that a real Gurmukh treats everyone the same and shows no impartiality to different people as they see Waheguru in all. 
 

What then if you think you are experiencing this? As in you feel that a Gurmukh is treating you differently to others which leaves you feeling a little upset? I appreciate that our avastha is not high enough to understand what a Gurmukh is thinking but still any insight would be greatly appreciated. 
 

Hope the question is clear and not confusing.

 

Wjkk Wjkf

Maybe he’s not a real Gurmukh. Plenty of self proclaimed Gurmukhs out there who talk the talk but who’s inner state doesn’t match their claims. 
 

How does he treat you differently?

[harsharan000]

On 11/2/2020 at 1:05 PM, PCSJZ said:

Wjkk wjkf

I have a question that I need some help on. We hear that a real Gurmukh treats everyone the same and shows no impartiality to different people as they see Waheguru in all. 
 

What then if you think you are experiencing this? As in you feel that a Gurmukh is treating you differently to others which leaves you feeling a little upset? I appreciate that our avastha is not high enough to understand what a Gurmukh is thinking but still any insight would be greatly appreciated. 
 

Hope the question is clear and not confusing.

 

Wjkk Wjkf

Brother, 

I do follow what you are trying to say.

And as you have asked for an opinion, I will give you mine.

Just imagine, a classroom with a teacher and his students.  To those who are a bit less intelligent or attentive, he makes them sit in the front line, so that they could be more attentive to the lessons taught by him, while to those who are more sharp intellectualy, he makes them sit in the back rows, for he knows wherver they sit, they can easily grasp the teachings, yet that does not mean that he cares less for them.

You see, a true Gurmukh is not something physical, he is more a spiritual being than what we can perceive. 

So, if he is a Gurmukh, and he has to give you something, he can give it to you even if we are 7 seas far away physically from him.

For example Prithi Chand, was a son and a  brother to 2 Guru sahiban, stayed under the same roof with them, had Their darshan most of the time, yet his wickedness had no limits.

And there were sikh disciples of both  4 th and  5th Patshaeeya, who were quite distant from them, yet they were blessed with such love and faith in Them, that They were considered Akal Purkh by those sikhs. Physical nearness or distance is irrelevant, when it comes in terms of these Holy people, for if they have to give you something, they will give it you wherever you are, on the contrary, one may be behind them as shadows, and if they have nothing to give, you will never get it by physical nearness.

So you see, we should not be much affected of how they deal with others, our main aim should be, that, if we have once identified Them as Gurmukhs by Their grace/kirpa, we should rather keep an eye ourselves  and see if our love, faith and affection for them has not suffered any decrease in quality.

That is it.

 

As a sample, the below 2 verses from the Bani, describe the reality of the spiritual heights of Gurmukhs, Sant Jan, Bhagat Jan:

 

ਮੋ ਕਉ ਦੀਜੈ ਦਾਨੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸੰਤਨ ਪਗ ਰਾਲ ॥੨॥

Mo Ko Dheejai Dhaan Prabh Santhan Pag Raal ||2||

Bless me, O God, with the gift of the dust of the feet of the Saints. ||2||

ਜਗਤ ਉਧਾਰਨ ਸਾਧ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਲਾਗਹੁ ਪਾਲ ॥

Jagath Oudhhaaran Saadhh Prabh Thinh Laagahu Paal ||

God's Holy people are the saviors of the world; I grab hold of the hem of their robes.

Raag Bilaaval Guru Arjan Dev

 

SSA.

[PCSJZ]

On 11/3/2020 at 11:27 PM, harsharan000 said:

Brother, 

I do follow what you are trying to say.

And as you have asked for an opinion, I will give you mine.

Just imagine, a classroom with a teacher and his students.  To those who are a bit less intelligent or attentive, he makes them sit in the front line, so that they could be more attentive to the lessons taught by him, while to those who are more sharp intellectualy, he makes them sit in the back rows, for he knows wherver they sit, they can easily grasp the teachings, yet that does not mean that he cares less for them.

You see, a true Gurmukh is not something physical, he is more a spiritual being than what we can perceive. 

So, if he is a Gurmukh, and he has to give you something, he can give it to you even if we are 7 seas far away physically from him.

For example Prithi Chand, was a son and a  brother to 2 Guru sahiban, stayed under the same roof with them, had Their darshan most of the time, yet his wickedness had no limits.

And there were sikh disciples of both  4 th and  5th Patshaeeya, who were quite distant from them, yet they were blessed with such love and faith in Them, that They were considered Akal Purkh by those sikhs. Physical nearness or distance is irrelevant, when it comes in terms of these Holy people, for if they have to give you something, they will give it you wherever you are, on the contrary, one may be behind them as shadows, and if they have nothing to give, you will never get it by physical nearness.

So you see, we should not be much affected of how they deal with others, our main aim should be, that, if we have once identified Them as Gurmukhs by Their grace/kirpa, we should rather keep an eye ourselves  and see if our love, faith and affection for them has not suffered any decrease in quality.

That is it.

 

As a sample, the below 2 verses from the Bani, describe the reality of the spiritual heights of Gurmukhs, Sant Jan, Bhagat Jan:

 

ਮੋ ਕਉ ਦੀਜੈ ਦਾਨੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸੰਤਨ ਪਗ ਰਾਲ ॥੨॥

Mo Ko Dheejai Dhaan Prabh Santhan Pag Raal ||2||

Bless me, O God, with the gift of the dust of the feet of the Saints. ||2||

ਜਗਤ ਉਧਾਰਨ ਸਾਧ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਲਾਗਹੁ ਪਾਲ ॥

Jagath Oudhhaaran Saadhh Prabh Thinh Laagahu Paal ||

God's Holy people are the saviors of the world; I grab hold of the hem of their robes.

Raag Bilaaval Guru Arjan Dev

 

SSA.

This makes perfect sense. Thank you so much for this. I know that ultimately our goal is to meet Waheguru and along that journey is guess we dont need to impress anyone except Waheguru. (If thats the right word). I guess in this case, the person in question is someone i know well. The Gurmukh has been calling on them to attend sangat for a few years now (they used to attend and then stopped). The Gurmukh seems to take extra time out for them when all i see is that person doesnt really seem to care and takes it for granted. They have now started sangat so maybe that is why the gurmukh tried so hard. In my own little mind at one point i was thinking if they really dont seem to care then why is this gurmukh trying so hard? There are so many others that are willing to listen and do whatever it takes yet they get no attention? 
 

Like i say though, thats just my own small mindedness and silly thinking i guess and I need to focus more on what im doing instead of what is happening around me. I get doubts though, that will Waheguru ever accept me? Gurbani says there is no difference between Waheguru and the mind of a gurmukh so if a gurmukh doesnt like me then what chance do i have with Waheguru?

sorry I know im rambling but i dont really talk to anyone about this and find i can do it here easier

Wjkk Wjkf

[harsharan000]

On 12/7/2020 at 10:47 AM, PCSJZ said:

This makes perfect sense. Thank you so much for this. I know that ultimately our goal is to meet Waheguru and along that journey is guess we dont need to impress anyone except Waheguru. (If thats the right word).

I guess in this case, the person in question is someone i know well.

1)The Gurmukh has been calling on them to attend sangat for a few years now (they used to attend and then stopped).

The Gurmukh seems to take extra time out for them when all i see is that person doesnt really seem to care and takes it for granted.

They have now started sangat so maybe that is why the gurmukh tried so hard.

In my own little mind at one point i was thinking if they really dont seem to care then why is this gurmukh trying so hard?

There are so many others that are willing to listen and do whatever it takes yet they get no attention? 
 

2)Like i say though, thats just my own small mindedness and silly thinking i guess and I need to focus more on what im doing instead of what is happening around me.

I get doubts though, that will Waheguru ever accept me?

Gurbani says there is no difference between Waheguru and the mind of a gurmukh so if a gurmukh doesnt like me then what chance do i have with Waheguru?

sorry I know im rambling but i dont really talk to anyone about this and find i can do it here easier

Wjkk Wjkf

 

SSA PCSJZ Jee,

do not worry for your queries, for as long as they are sincere as a seeker and have no malice in them, they are but just normal. 

Gurmukhs or Sant Janas, just do not randomly  pull those "particular souls" and put them on the right tracks  just like that, it is by His hukum that He comes for those souls.

Gurbani beautifully refers to those souls as wadbhagee jeevas.

 

Bhoolay marag jinaay bataaya, aisa Gur wadbhagee paaya.

Those astrayed, who are shown the correct path,  with great good fortune meet the Guru.

Or as seen at other place in words of Third Patshahee:

Dhanaasree mehlaa 3.

satgur bhaytay poorai bhaag.
But by perfect destiny, they meet the True Guru;

 

For example in the Bible also, Christ a saint of  high avasthaa says:

I have come to collect the marked sheep by my Father. At other palce he says: my sheep will hear my whistle and come to me. 

Christ was mystic, so in the above sentence we should not take the words literally as sheep or whistle, but see to what he really refers to 

 

In both the examples above, this is quite true, for as we all know, Fourth and Fifth Patshahees were Akal Purukh in human form, and were father and brother to the wicked  Prithi Chand, who lived under the same roof and had Their darshan as much as any sikh disciple would desire, yet, as he was not meant to come out of the net of Maya, he continued with his ignorance and wickedness and incuring in bad karam.

 

So you see, many a times we may have a gurmukh as our neighbour, in the same village or state or country, but if one is not meant for the time being, one will never believe in that gurmukh.

People do mistake Vishnu avatars as equal for Guru Sahiban, Gurmukhs, Bhagat Janas  or Sant Janas, as forms of Akal Purukh.

There is huge difference among them.

Vishnu avatars come to restore dharam on earth, and fight the tyranny, and through devotion take their devotees at most to the realm of Baikunth or Swarg.

While, Guru Sahiban or Bhagat Jan, come to set free from the mayavee creation for once and ever with the aid of Nam bhakti.

Vishnu avatars display miraculous powers and have their spouses,  weapons,  or animals with them... a lot of variety of everything around them, which impress the mortal beings and thus worship them, and keep them entagled in jap, tap, poojas, patahs, pilgrimages, idol worship...etc

On the other side, Guru Sahiban, come as ordinary human beings while they are the very essence Akal Purukh Himself, never ever display powers or claim to be something but call themselves as a sewadaar of everybody, such pure is their humility, and their main purpose is to only reunite the soul with Satnam, Waheguru, with the aid of Nam bhakti, and realize that Ultimate Truth nowhere outside, but within ourselves. 

If you pay attention to each verse in each Ang of the Bani, you will see only mahima of Nam the true creator, the Ultimate Truth.

Following are some more beauti ful verses from the Bani which are related  to your queries: 

Vin Naavai, Ko Mukath N Hoe
But without the Name, no one is liberated
Raag Gauri Guaarayree Guru Amar Das 

Kal Mehi Guramukh Outharas Paar
In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, only the Gurmukhs cross over
Raag Gauri Guaarayree Guru Amar Das 

Gur Parasaadhee, Milai Har Soee
By Guru's Parsad of Nam, one meets the Lord.
Raag Gauri Guru Amar Das

har mandar sabday khojee-ai har naamo layho samaal. 
The Temple of the Lord is found through the Word of the Shabad; contemplate the Lord's Name.
har mandar ayhu sareer hai, gi-aan ratan pargat ho-ay.
This body is the Temple of the Lord, in which the jewel of spiritual wisdom is revealed
Raag Prabhaatee Guru Amar Das

SaaDhoo sang sikhaa-i-o naam.
In the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, the Naam is learned
Raag Aasaa, Guru Arjun Dev

Sant parsaad, japai har naa-o.
By the Parsad of Nam of the Saints, one chants the Lord's Name.
Raag Gwaarayaree, Guru Arjun Dev.

Sant parsaad taray bhavjal, poorab likhi-aa paa-i-aa.
By the Grace of the Saints, they cross over the terrifying world-ocean, and obtain their pre-ordained destiny
Raag Bihagraa Guru Arjun Dev

Naam a-ukhaDh, so-ee jan paavai.
He alone receives the panacea, the medicine of the Naam,
kar kirpaa jis aap divaavai.
unto whom the Lord, in His Grace, bestows it.
Raag Gauree Gwaarayree, Guru Arjun Dev

naanak parabh karee kirpaa, pooraa satgur paa-i-aa. 
Nanak, God has granted His Grace, and I have found the Perfect True Guru
Raag Ramkalee Guru Arjun Dev.

Nanak, Sadh, Prabh, bhed nahee bahee
Nanak proclaims, there is no difference between a Sadh, a Gurmukh and the one Lord Wahiguru.
Sukhmani Sahib, Guru Arjrun Dev

 

So you see, the teachings of Guru Sahiban, Gurmukhs and Bhagat Jan, are only relataed to our true spiritual nature as souls, and Waheguru, Nam or Shabad as our only origin in Sach Khand, there where only He one exists, no spouses, no children, no siblings, no cows, tigers, bulls, rats, lions or snakes, no roaming about in heavenly chariots etc ....  etc  .... etc ....

One thing we must bear in mind and that is, though all this variety of creations, celestial beings, trinities, people exist, it is because of His hukum, thus we should respect everything created by Him and not enter into controversies or disputes with them, for if such is His hukum who can go against it? Though we may never ever understand it.... We do not even know our tuchh mind/pettiness, how can we ever understand His beant wadeeayee...

 

As much as possible, our aim and attention should not be on what others are doing, but on ourselves, if we are living our lives as per the pure and paviter teachings of the Bani, for it is only by applying it practically in our daily lives, can we get His kirpa and thus cross  the mahabhavsagar, not otherwise.

 

About your question of Waheguru accepting you .... I would say, not only you but all of the infinte drops of jeev atmaas are very dear to Him. 

We see variety of people, or dharmas, of this and that, but He sees only His same Jot in all. It is only out of ignorance we get into controversies, but if we  live accordingly to the teachings we will never get into disputes or quarrels, for our main concern will be on focusing and saving ourselves, each jeev atma has chalked destiny to fulfill due to their own past karam.

Also, you can just pray to Him to  bless you with His kirpa and let you live and follow Gurabni as stated in it by our beloved Guru Sahiban and Bhagat Jan.

 

To end this post today, I would like to end it with a beautiful verse from the Gurbani of First Patshahee :

Eko Nam hukum hae Nanak   Satgur  dheea bujhaae  jeeo.

 

SSA. 

[PCSJZ]

On 12/7/2020 at 12:08 PM, harsharan000 said:

 

SSA PCSJZ Jee,

do not worry for your queries, for as long as they are sincere as a seeker and have no malice in them, they are but just normal. 

Gurmukhs or Sant Janas, just do not randomly  pull those "particular souls" and put them on the right tracks  just like that, it is by His hukum that He comes for those souls.

Gurbani beautifully refers to those souls as wadbhagee jeevas.

 

Bhoolay marag jinaay bataaya, aisa Gur wadbhagee paaya.

Those astrayed, who are shown the correct path,  with great good fortune meet the Guru.

Or as seen at other place in words of Third Patshahee:

Dhanaasree mehlaa 3.

satgur bhaytay poorai bhaag.
But by perfect destiny, they meet the True Guru;

 

For example in the Bible also, Christ a saint of  high avasthaa says:

I have come to collect the marked sheep by my Father. At other palce he says: my sheep will hear my whistle and come to me. 

Christ was mystic, so in the above sentence we should not take the words literally as sheep or whistle, but see to what he really refers to 

 

In both the examples above, this is quite true, for as we all know, Fourth and Fifth Patshahees were Akal Purukh in human form, and were father and brother to the wicked  Prithi Chand, who lived under the same roof and had Their darshan as much as any sikh disciple would desire, yet, as he was not meant to come out of the net of Maya, he continued with his ignorance and wickedness and incuring in bad karam.

 

So you see, many a times we may have a gurmukh as our neighbour, in the same village or state or country, but if one is not meant for the time being, one will never believe in that gurmukh.

People do mistake Vishnu avatars as equal for Guru Sahiban, Gurmukhs, Bhagat Janas  or Sant Janas, as forms of Akal Purukh.

There is huge difference among them.

Vishnu avatars come to restore dharam on earth, and fight the tyranny, and through devotion take their devotees at most to the realm of Baikunth or Swarg.

While, Guru Sahiban or Bhagat Jan, come to set free from the mayavee creation for once and ever with the aid of Nam bhakti.

Vishnu avatars display miraculous powers and have their spouses,  weapons,  or animals with them... a lot of variety of everything around them, which impress the mortal beings and thus worship them, and keep them entagled in jap, tap, poojas, patahs, pilgrimages, idol worship...etc

On the other side, Guru Sahiban, come as ordinary human beings while they are the very essence Akal Purukh Himself, never ever display powers or claim to be something but call themselves as a sewadaar of everybody, such pure is their humility, and their main purpose is to only reunite the soul with Satnam, Waheguru, with the aid of Nam bhakti, and realize that Ultimate Truth nowhere outside, but within ourselves. 

If you pay attention to each verse in each Ang of the Bani, you will see only mahima of Nam the true creator, the Ultimate Truth.

Following are some more beauti ful verses from the Bani which are related  to your queries: 

Vin Naavai, Ko Mukath N Hoe
But without the Name, no one is liberated
Raag Gauri Guaarayree Guru Amar Das 

Kal Mehi Guramukh Outharas Paar
In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, only the Gurmukhs cross over
Raag Gauri Guaarayree Guru Amar Das 

Gur Parasaadhee, Milai Har Soee
By Guru's Parsad of Nam, one meets the Lord.
Raag Gauri Guru Amar Das

har mandar sabday khojee-ai har naamo layho samaal. 
The Temple of the Lord is found through the Word of the Shabad; contemplate the Lord's Name.
har mandar ayhu sareer hai, gi-aan ratan pargat ho-ay.
This body is the Temple of the Lord, in which the jewel of spiritual wisdom is revealed
Raag Prabhaatee Guru Amar Das

SaaDhoo sang sikhaa-i-o naam.
In the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, the Naam is learned
Raag Aasaa, Guru Arjun Dev

Sant parsaad, japai har naa-o.
By the Parsad of Nam of the Saints, one chants the Lord's Name.
Raag Gwaarayaree, Guru Arjun Dev.

Sant parsaad taray bhavjal, poorab likhi-aa paa-i-aa.
By the Grace of the Saints, they cross over the terrifying world-ocean, and obtain their pre-ordained destiny
Raag Bihagraa Guru Arjun Dev

Naam a-ukhaDh, so-ee jan paavai.
He alone receives the panacea, the medicine of the Naam,
kar kirpaa jis aap divaavai.
unto whom the Lord, in His Grace, bestows it.
Raag Gauree Gwaarayree, Guru Arjun Dev

naanak parabh karee kirpaa, pooraa satgur paa-i-aa. 
Nanak, God has granted His Grace, and I have found the Perfect True Guru
Raag Ramkalee Guru Arjun Dev.

Nanak, Sadh, Prabh, bhed nahee bahee
Nanak proclaims, there is no difference between a Sadh, a Gurmukh and the one Lord Wahiguru.
Sukhmani Sahib, Guru Arjrun Dev

 

So you see, the teachings of Guru Sahiban, Gurmukhs and Bhagat Jan, are only relataed to our true spiritual nature as souls, and Waheguru, Nam or Shabad as our only origin in Sach Khand, there where only He one exists, no spouses, no children, no siblings, no cows, tigers, bulls, rats, lions or snakes, no roaming about in heavenly chariots etc ....  etc  .... etc ....

One thing we must bear in mind and that is, though all this variety of creations, celestial beings, trinities, people exist, it is because of His hukum, thus we should respect everything created by Him and not enter into controversies or disputes with them, for if such is His hukum who can go against it? Though we may never ever understand it.... We do not even know our tuchh mind/pettiness, how can we ever understand His beant wadeeayee...

 

As much as possible, our aim and attention should not be on what others are doing, but on ourselves, if we are living our lives as per the pure and paviter teachings of the Bani, for it is only by applying it practically in our daily lives, can we get His kirpa and thus cross  the mahabhavsagar, not otherwise.

 

About your question of Waheguru accepting you .... I would say, not only you but all of the infinte drops of jeev atmaas are very dear to Him. 

We see variety of people, or dharmas, of this and that, but He sees only His same Jot in all. It is only out of ignorance we get into controversies, but if we  live accordingly to the teachings we will never get into disputes or quarrels, for our main concern will be on focusing and saving ourselves, each jeev atma has chalked destiny to fulfill due to their own past karam.

Also, you can just pray to Him to  bless you with His kirpa and let you live and follow Gurabni as stated in it by our beloved Guru Sahiban and Bhagat Jan.

 

To end this post today, I would like to end it with a beautiful verse from the Gurbani of First Patshahee :

Eko Nam hukum hae Nanak  Satgur bujhaae dheeo jee.

 

SSA. 

Thank you paji for the response. What you have said all makes sense however I do have 1 question still.

Regarding the point about those with perfect destiny will unite with Waheguru. I dont and cant doubt Waheguru but maybe my small mind isnt understanding this correctly.

As in my example. The particular person has only now paid attention to what the gurmukh has been saying and has started doing sangat and abhiyas. So if we say he has the perfect destiny but only the gurmukh can see it hence the reason he has put so much time and effort in trying to convince this person to attend sangat.

on the other hand, you have the other person who may not have perfect destiny therefore not destined to meet Waheguru yet he tries his hardest to live life the correct way, does his abhiyas, does sangat, follows anything that a gurmukh may say straightaway and has a yearning to meet Waheguru but just because of past kamai and not having the perfect destiny he is not meant to meet Waheguru? 

Is this fair?

Someone that has no appreciation gets everything but the one that tries day and night doesnt even get a look in because hes not meant to?

Again maybe i have completely misunderstood, maybe because i have been more and more disheartened the last few weeks so im thinking more negative. However i have heard this concept of perfect destiny before and i admit i do not fully understand.

bhul chuk maaf.

Wjkk Wjkf

[harsharan000]

15 hours ago, PCSJZ said:

 

What you have said all makes sense,  however I do have 1 question still.

 

1)Regarding the point about those with perfect destiny will unite with Waheguru. I dont and cant doubt Waheguru but maybe my small mind isnt understanding this correctly.

As in my example. The particular person has only now paid attention to what the gurmukh has been saying and has started doing sangat and abhiyas. So if we say he has the perfect destiny but only the gurmukh can see it hence the reason he has put so much time and effort in trying to convince this person to attend sangat.

on the other hand, you have the other person who may not have perfect destiny therefore not destined to meet Waheguru yet he tries his hardest to live life the correct way, does his abhiyas, does sangat, follows anything that a gurmukh may say straightaway and has a yearning to meet Waheguru but just because of past kamai and not having the perfect destiny he is not meant to meet Waheguru? 

Is this fair?

 

2)Someone that has no appreciation gets everything but the one that tries day and night doesnt even get a look in because hes not meant to?

Again maybe i have completely misunderstood, maybe because i have been more and more disheartened the last few weeks so im thinking more negative. However i have heard this concept of perfect destiny before and i admit i do not fully understand.

bhul chuk maaf.

Wjkk Wjkf

Brother PCSJZ,

just sharing my own views towards your queries, and please do not feel sorry for asking any questions there is absolutely  nothing wrong in them, as I said they are normal to an extent, as we are all seekers, struggling souls in finding our way towards Him.

1) I follow what you say, but please bear in mind, that from our actual position/level, we are only seeing the present condition of the people, which is very much limited, we know nothing of the past of these jeevas/souls.

Maybe, that person which is not worthy in our eyes now, but has come in contact with a Gurmukh, has a lesser amount of karmas to be cleared  off in this very birth, but, it is up to us, if we colaborate with the Gurmukh and make his task easy, so that he can gently hold us by the hand and take us back with him, or, we can be nuaghty and pay no attention, thus he may have to pull us from the ear, which we may dislike, but it is up to us how attentive and starightforward we are, because in any case as said in my post above, by all means that gurmukh will take that particular jeeva with him in the jahaaz of Nam, for it has been so ordered by Him.

So to say fair or unfair,  that is a very relative and a limited perspective of ours, for  if we could arise within ourselves and see how the law of karama is working throughout the creation we would never say this or that, but of course we have to reach that avastha, and for the time being, trying to assimilate that whatever happens, is according to the perfect law of action and reaction, and also His grace.

 

2) Please do not be disheartened at all.

All and everyone can meet Waheguru, if only the right devotion is performed as per Gurbani, which is none other than Nam bhakti.

The gurmukh is not something limited to the physical, he is very much spiritual of the highest avastha, and aware of whatever is going around here and anywhere with everyone and all,  yet he very much respects the laws of Nature by  not interfereing and modifying them, for he stays in His Bhaana at all times,  and then also he has his own ways in calling and cleaning any jeeva under his responsibilty to be brought back Home.

Having said that, one thing I can assure you is that, if that person who is worthy or good according to you, but is not in conatact with the gurmukh, yet he is a good human being and has love and longing for Waheguru, and keeps the company of the gurmukh by listening to his discourses here and there, and also having his purifying darshans, all that is added to the  credit of the sikh/seeker, thus in the coming births, will surely bear its fruits,  of being under the shelter of a gurmukh of that time.... so nothing, or no effort of wanting and going towards Waheguru ever goes in waste.

We must have faith and love at the lotus feet of Waheguru, that is important, rest He will take care of. 

It is more to Waheguru, who pulls us from within towards Himself, than we moorakhs and manmukhs wanting to go back to Him.

 

Stay blessed.

SSA.