Muslims showed so much love to me and my family!

[GurjantGnostic]

I feel for @shastarSingh

Spirtually he's correct to see God in everyone. Indian, pakistani, and world religous politics aren't his fault. 

[shastarSingh]

2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I feel for @shastarSingh

Spirtually he's correct to see God in everyone. Indian, pakistani, and world religous politics aren't his fault. 

I think politically too.

1. I am in favour of having a khalistan state.

I feel Sikhs shud hv good relations with both Pakistan and China. It will help us politically in establishing khalistan. It will help us in visiting and taking care of our Gurdwaras in Pakistan. It will help us economically when khalistan and Pakistan border opens up for trade in the future.

2. There are millions of non RSS type Hindus in India and we shud be doing sikhi parchar on them especially in areas near punjab like haryana Rajasthan and western UP. It will help us politically too.

[GurjantGnostic]

7 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

I think politically too.

1. I am in favour of having a khalistan state.

I feel Sikhs shud hv good relations with both Pakistan and China. It will help us politically in establishing khalistan. It will help us in visiting and taking care of our Gurdwaras in Pakistan. It will help us economically when khalistan and Pakistan opens up for trade in the future.

2. There are millions of non RSS type Hindus in India and we shud be doing sikhi parchar on them especially in areas near punjab like haryana Rajasthan and western UP. It will help us politically too.

Amen bro. I know you do. I just feel, perhaps wrongly, you're one of those people who love so much that it puts lenses on politics perhaps. 

I think we have to get stronger first, then do trade sure or whatever, but who our allies are we have to be very careful or we just trade masters and situations. 

[GurjantGnostic]

9 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

I think politically too.

1. I am in favour of having a khalistan state.

I feel Sikhs shud hv good relations with both Pakistan and China. It will help us politically in establishing khalistan. It will help us in visiting and taking care of our Gurdwaras in Pakistan. It will help us economically when khalistan and Pakistan opens up for trade in the future.

2. There are millions of non RSS type Hindus in India and we shud be doing sikhi parchar on them especially in areas near punjab like haryana Rajasthan and western UP. It will help us politically too.

111 percent. Appreciate you bro. 

[shastarSingh]

27 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Amen bro. I know you do. I just feel, perhaps wrongly, you're one of those people who love so much that it puts lenses on politics perhaps. 

I think we have to get stronger first, then do trade sure or whatever, but who our allies are we have to be very careful or we just trade masters and situations. 

Veer

If punjab(khalistan) and Pakistan border opens up we can do GREAT economic progress.

May be 60 years equivalent of progress in 5 years.

It will be very good for farmers too.

We will get much better rates for our crops and our trucks will be able to go uptill russia.

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, shastarSingh said:

Veer

If punjab(khalistan) and Pakistan border opens up we can do GREAT economic progress.

May be 60 years equivalent of progress in 5 years.

It will be very good for farmers too.

We will get much better rates for our crops and our trucks will be able to go uptill russia.

I agree with that. I just don't agree with being allies with Pakistan to get Khalistan. 

Russians are my favorite imperials. All about it. 

Love and appreciate you bro. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Only way I see to get Khalistan, or even land and influence in India, outside of the countries failing and us getting it, is we have to repatriate Punjab, have a consensus based shadow government, and start buying farm land. Putting five mobile homes, a well, a septic system, and a tesla power wall on each one. This model requires one Sikh with enough money to get each low cost plot started. Bought outright, or financed sustainably on their income alone, or close to it. 

No permanent structures, no bulding permits. 

Then we move Sikhs into all five mobile homes. Farm, train, etc. The landowner Sikh charges a lower rent than available elsewhere. Takes some of it for Langar and upkeep, and puts the rest into a fund for each of the other four families. Transparently and according to structure. 

When their accounts reach a certain amount, they're given that fund to buy their own plot and repay the Paanth buy helping four other families get land. 

In this way we grow Bungas of five Singhs or five families each, while we govern ourselves internally and get a unified stance on things. In the family version, only some members work full time, some part, some not at all. Everyone sells products from the farm to get fund money. In the single men version, the men work part time nearby, or full time in a way that let's them train a lot still. Single men version requires less housing structures. If their plot is really rural they use online business, farm and textile trade from the land, or commute to work seasonally in rotations. 

We use our internal power, and representatives, to interact with worldly politics as we establish, grow, convert, ally and gain influence, and farm land back, with a model that gets more and more land, not a model that gets destroyed when inherited and over split, and not a model that leaves all but one son landless. Rehao. Lol.

I mean this is really really doable by any family or individual who has a modern educated income. Buy cheap farm land. Put a well, septic and preferably off grid power. And let people live there and help for cheap. And put most their monetary contribution into buying them the same basic thing. Keep the overhead low. Half in the world half out.  Repeat. 

111 percent of this Paanth should own Khalisland all over the world. 

[GurjantGnostic]

I'll be using this model myself with friends, Sikhs and Aikidoka. 

I also have a similar idea to get homeless people, get them gov benefits, and do the same thing, leaving them landowners in the end not homeless. And use their food stamps for Langar. And their social security disability for land. 

Use gov money to solve the homeless problem permanently. And recover a lot of vets and turn them into Gursikhs. 

[GurjantGnostic]

In cases where people fail or offend too much too long, you have a fund for their first last and deposit. "We rented you a place. Three months paid, here's food and transit money.  Good luck."

[GurjantGnostic]

In greeb cases. Five Singhs or five families finance the first plot with an agreement from the beginning who buys the other four out of it at the end and therefore calls the design shots of the first property. 

[GurjantGnostic]

We can use this all over the world to get enfranchised and free both. And then we don't become the slaves of a powerul militarized ally, who "gave" us Khalistan after making us sacrificial forces for their war. 

Combine this with forming private investigation and security companies, using the battle ready Sikhs. And use that work to train and help fund the movement and members, as well as establish us legally and martially everywhere we live globally. We'd have our own profitable police force slash national guard. 

The upside to no permanent structures is low cost, no permit cost, lower land taxes usually, resulting in rent free bastions of food production associated with security businesses. That require almost no yearly tax money, an no utility money outside of upkeep and internet connection. Which is on everyone's phones except rural which is where starlink comes in. Also non permanent structures and power walls can all be moved to central bases in bad times and secure the farm land from a safe numbered strategic location with good firing positions and the best water.  

That means we have all the money other people pay in rent or expensive plastic houses to invest in degrees fo Sangat. 

Engineers. Doctors. Lawyers. Stem.

Geologists. Hydrologists. Vetrenarians. 

Agricultural scientists. Robotoics. Aviation. Space. 

All from our ever increasing Bungas. 

Computer programmers and security specialists. Run businesses from the Bungas using starlink. Any online business. 

All from our ever increasing bungas...

How long until the Paanth would have huge land holdings, many thrival survival businesses and everyone land and an education of some kind?

Then we can afford a big birth rate and simply outgrow others. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Then we can trade with russia, china, pakistan whoever, the whole world from within the whole world. And maybe finance and justify our Nation being recognized. 

Instant Khalistan, slow takeover. I'd say fify, fixed it for you, but I didn't. I just get the ideas from Guru Ji. 

[GurjantGnostic]

I'm pleased my night off resulted in the wild tangents of the app, app with ai, @ਰੂਪ ਢਿੱਲੋਂ a story idea, short or otherwise, (maybe a movie deal Roop? Eh. Jk halfway. Movie deal for you not me either way.) And the landgrab idea coming out as an alternative to other Khalistan models, paired with some Bunga..politica..educational growth and sustainability ideas. Who could protest this version of Khalistan? Who could call these Khalistanis isi backed terrorists? They'd have to call us family men, and business men. Land owners. With legitimate land rights globally.  

Please somebody with any influence in the Paanth help me get some traction with idea implementation and creative thought exchange. Let's build Khalistan and fuse Aikido, and the original Yoga of... from .. the last Yugh, training into it please.

And please pray for me. Kalyug is kicking my ass. My job search had a setback. Pray I become an Amritdhari Gursikh and can at least demonstrate anyone can do things like this with no money, just Seva and Sikhs, because whatever model we make has to work for all greeb people anyway.

Pray my Godson and I are shielded from his ill mother, my "sister", and she's protected and healed. God help her. God save us all in my house lol! And pray we all adjust to inflation and world turmoil well. 

If nothing else... Roop let's shoot the breeze sometimes... You can steal any crazy sci fi or Paanthic idea I have, the True ones aren't mine, and the false ones are mine therefore yours to fictionalize, and all Truth belongs to God so yours to take too, lol,  we can brainstorm rediculous stories for fun. And maybe some of them can be fictionalized and exported to the Paanth that way, in a scifi or alternate reality way, but one that could effect real people or reality itself as it marches on. 

Stay blessed all and lets build Kalislands...I like this new word Kalis Land. Kal Islands....lol...sorry... without external help. And get farm land and support clean water and air rights. And one day have Khalistan Zindibad! and our spiritual Nation recognized. 

Let's help each other starting with nothing, like Sikhs do, and take over the peaceful way family. 

And lead by example to other Sikhs and anyone who wants to live like us or steal our moves no worries. Steal the Gurbani too. That's what's it for. Open sourcing. 

Goodnight Sangat Ji. 

We can have a all the Bungas linked online, have a Digital Dojo and a schooling system online. Act as a labor union and political party. Act as a trade co op. Act as an international trade entity. Act as if we have corporate buying power. Benefit from economies of scale. 

[GurjantGnostic]

This idea is too good to be mine. Come on guys. We can do this one. It's sound. And it's right up your alley @shastarSingh. Glad it's your thread I derailed bro. Love you Veer. Stay blessed. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Oh, and last thought almost forgot. After the first phase graduates, four people or families, we either refill their spots and repeat, or what I suggest is one or two of the units are turned into assisted living for the elders. So they are taken care of, not lonely, and can educate the youth, in person and online. And Sevadars can assist the elders with food and daily life stuff, and our burgeoning nursing staff and students can travel Bunga to Bunga for free. 

And the graduates can get land right next to the first plot if we buy in rural cheap enough areas and our families can grow as our land grows and we can keep our elders close. And even graduates can just move next door and keep our kids close because they become attached to each other and it's good to have them grow older with people they've known their whole life. 

And more eyes, and multiple generations loving together helps reduce family strife. 

Many hands makes light work. Let's do it together. 

@SunnySingh

[GurjantGnostic]

This idea grows, educates and pays for itself, and education just grows it exponentially. It mathematically, sustainably, grows Sikhi and Sikhs. 

We've solved land rights, water rights, representation, education, family size limitations, homelessness and the elderly plight all right here. Private education solved. College solved. 

Solved politics right here. Kalislands, Kahlistan, without help. Without violence. No allies. No war. 

[GurjantGnostic]

And as a religion we don't even have to pay taxes on most this money we don't need if we do it right. 

[GurjantGnostic]

2 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

May be 60 years equivalent of progress in 5 years.

What you think bro, my by us for us, all over the world, with no external help, idea sound like 60 years in 5?

You do this yourself you wind up making Sikhs land owners and have a Bunga with Sikhs who love you before you get too old to cook for yourself?

A Fauj of nephews and nieces who love you. On your land and all next to it. 

[GurjantGnostic]

Sikhi turns depression into inspiration. Thank God. 

[GurjantGnostic]

And with world power shifting, now is the time to do this.

Unite. Help each other in this fiscally viable even for greeb people way. Legally get offgrid land all over the world simultaneously, if powers dissolve claim much more maybe, ehhh? Step in and secure the water, protect the innocent, recruit the righteous? Ehhh? Any takers?

World sitaution doesn't go south? Great we still started a Sikh, Bunga, self replicating Virus. That allows an educated, land owning, birth rate explosion of Sikhs to emerge. We can afford to outbreed the muslims, which will be fun lol, and not be on welfare. We can afford to buy land like china.  We can actually pay for it ourselves and wind up educated landowners globally. 

Raj Karega Khalsa. 

It's a good thing I don't work tomorrow. I should sleep lol but now I'm so excited now instead of depressed

[GurjantGnostic]

Menonites are beating us to the self watering farm land in idaho people, I need us to get moving lol!

You know much food, medicine, hemp and bamboo you can grow in greenhouses on rich earth so close to the water table the roots get all the water they need?!

Everything we owned would be made out hemp and bamboo, we'd be fed all year, and we could sell bamboo to all america it grows so fast. Idaho bamboo people. 

And our neighbors would be menonites!

Tempus fuckit people!

[shastarSingh]

18 hours ago, proudkaur said:

. I wouldn't trust them in a 1000 years. the problem

We shud put our faith and trust in Gurmukhs only but we shud be respectful and helpful to all like Muslims, Hindus, Christians, atheists etc

[shastarSingh]

Just now, shastarSingh said:

We shud put our faith and trust in Gurmukhs only but we shud be respectful and helpful to all like Muslims, Hindus, Christians, atheists etc

https://fb.watch/ef_FAyFwAO/

[shastarSingh]

4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Russians are my favorite imperials.

Why so? Plz tell

[GurjantGnostic]

8 hours ago, shastarSingh said:

Why so? Plz tell

They've done less, and suffered more at the hands of the other imperials. They're related for sure but not accepted. They are the least racist. The countries they dealt with during the cold war love them still. They don't bluff. They train for real. Their economy is actually capitalism unlike our so called capitalism.  They're happily mixed race now overall. They provide a balance to western power currently. 

Hisotircally they actually have a tendency to wad ein and help people. 

They defeated the nazis before and are about to do it again except the nazis are now all of us. 

The threat of white on white privilige violence turning into world war again is not acceptable, but in this case russia isn't wrong.