shastarSingh Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,2450 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paapiman Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 13 hours ago, shastarSingh said: The meaning of the first verse is probably incorrect (in the screenshot above). Please read the arths below: Sampradai Teeka (Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh jee Taksaal): Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: Faridkot Wala Teeka: Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Vedaas don't know God. On the other hand, Gurbani is God. Vahu vahu baani nirankaar hai.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=559 Vedaas came from Brahma and love of Maya spread. Vedaas are kachi baani as they cannot break the shackles of Maya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 hours ago, paapiman said: The meaning of the first verse is probably incorrect (in the screenshot above). Please read the arths below: Sampradai Teeka (Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh jee Taksaal): Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: Faridkot Wala Teeka: Bhul chuk maaf Lots of mistakes in our translations and teekas of Gurbani. Gurbani is the work of God. Translations and teekas are work of humans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 59 minutes ago, shastarSingh said: https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=559 Vedaas came from Brahma and love of Maya spread. Vedaas are kachi baani as they cannot break the shackles of Maya. Please read the arths of the above three lines below (from Amir Bhandar Teeka). Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, shastarSingh said: Vedaas came from Brahma and love of Maya spread. Vedaas are kachi baani as they cannot break the shackles of Maya. The verses which you posted do not imply that Ved Bani is Kachi. After Gurbani (and other Sikh texts), the most powerful Bani is Ved Bani. Vedas have very powerful mantars in them. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, paapiman said: The verses which you posted do not imply that Ved Bani is Kachi. After Gurbani (and other Sikh texts), the most powerful Bani is Ved Bani. Vedas have very powerful mantars in them. Bhul chuk maaf Any baani that spreads the love of Maya is kachi. Kachi baani can contain both good or false thoughts but kachi baani cannot make a person beat the shackles of Maya. There are good thoughts even in bible, Quran, Buddhist literature, vedaas etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, paapiman said: The verses which you posted do not imply that Ved Bani is Kachi. After Gurbani (and other Sikh texts), the most powerful Bani is Ved Bani. Vedas have very powerful mantars in them. Bhul chuk maaf @paapiman How do u explain the below tukk which states that Brahma wasted his life reading vedaas. https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=478 ਬੇਦ ਪੜੇ ਪੜਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 13 hours ago, shastarSingh said: @paapiman How do u explain the below tukk which states that Brahma wasted his life reading vedaas. https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=478 ਬੇਦ ਪੜੇ ਪੜਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ @paapiman Plz reply bro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 2:43 PM, paapiman said: The verses which you posted do not imply that Ved Bani is Kachi. After Gurbani (and other Sikh texts), the most powerful Bani is Ved Bani. Vedas have very powerful mantars in them. Bhul chuk maaf Bro plz read this tukk https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=647 ਪੰਡਿਤ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਚੁਕਈ ਜੇ ਵੇਦ ਪੜੈ ਜੁਗ ਚਾਰਿ ॥ Guru Sahib ji is telling the Pandit that even if he reads vedaas for 4 yuggs, his filth cannot be removed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 2:43 PM, paapiman said: The verses which you posted do not imply that Ved Bani is Kachi. After Gurbani (and other Sikh texts), the most powerful Bani is Ved Bani. Vedas have very powerful mantars in them. Bhul chuk maaf https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Gurbani_:_Vedas,_Purans_%26_Shastras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, shastarSingh said: https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Gurbani_:_Vedas,_Purans_%26_Shastras https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Granth_Sahib_on_Vedas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shastarSingh Posted July 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 19 hours ago, shastarSingh said: Bro plz read this tukk https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=647 ਪੰਡਿਤ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਚੁਕਈ ਜੇ ਵੇਦ ਪੜੈ ਜੁਗ ਚਾਰਿ ॥ Guru Sahib ji is telling the Pandit that even if he reads vedaas for 4 yuggs, his filth cannot be removed. @paapiman???? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 21 hours ago, shastarSingh said: Bro plz read this tukk https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=647 ਪੰਡਿਤ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਚੁਕਈ ਜੇ ਵੇਦ ਪੜੈ ਜੁਗ ਚਾਰਿ ॥ Guru Sahib ji is telling the Pandit that even if he reads vedaas for 4 yuggs, his filth cannot be removed. Here is the Arth, which is mentioned in the Sampradai Teeka (Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh Taksaaal): Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 10:41 AM, shastarSingh said: Please read the Uthanka of this Shabad. From Sampradai Teeka (Damdami Taksaal): Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 10:41 AM, shastarSingh said: From Sampradai Teeka (Amir Bhandar): From Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 10:58 AM, shastarSingh said: @paapiman How do u explain the below tukk which states that Brahma wasted his life reading vedaas. https://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&g=1&h=1&r=1&t=1&p=0&k=0&Param=478 ਬੇਦ ਪੜੇ ਪੜਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ From Sampradai Teeka (Amir Bhandar): From Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: From Sampradai Teeka (Gurbani Arth Bhandar Pothi): Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 10:40 AM, shastarSingh said: https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,2450 ਕੁਰਾਣੁ ਕਤੇਬ ਦਿਲ ਮਾਹਿ ਕਮਾਹੀ ॥ From Sampradai Teeka (Gurbani Arth Bhandar Pothi): From Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 10:40 AM, shastarSingh said: https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,2450 ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਜਾਸ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਵਤ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੀਐ ਮੋ ਧਰੁ ਰੇ ॥ From Sampradai Teeka (Gurbani Arth Bhandar Pothi): From Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 10:40 AM, shastarSingh said: https://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,2450 ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਪੜੇ ਕੋ ਇਹ ਗੁਨ ਸਿਮਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮਾ ॥1॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ From Sampradai Teeka (Gurbani Arth Bhandar Pothi): From Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 ਬੇਦੁ ਪੁਕਾਰੈ ਭਗਤਿ ਸਰੋਤਿ ॥ From Sampradai Teeka (Gurbani Arth Bhandar Pothi): From Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 5:45 AM, paapiman said: From Sampradai Teeka (Amir Bhandar): From Prof. Sahib Singh jee's Teeka: From Sampradai Teeka (Gurbani Arth Bhandar Pothi): Bhul chuk maaf @dalsingh101 @sarabatam @shastarSingh @Soulfinder and others: Did you understand the second and the third meanings in the screen shot (of Amir Bhandar Teeka) above? Please help. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, paapiman said: @dalsingh101 @sarabatam @shastarSingh @Soulfinder and others: Did you understand the second and the third meanings in the screen shot (of Amir Bhandar Teeka) above? Please help. Bhul chuk maaf What bit are you talking about exactly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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