dalsingh101 Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Makes me laugh (or more like cry), when certain fudhoos amongst us constantly harp on about not being Hindus but then act exactly like the worst of them in a Gurdwara of all places: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premi Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said: Makes me laugh (or more like cry), when certain fudhoos amongst us constantly harp on about not being Hindus but then act exactly like the worst of them in a Gurdwara of all places: ‘Higher castes’ have been insistent that ‘lower castes’ do not share pinf Gurdwara with them. have heard some do not want to take Amrit with’ lower castes’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted October 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, Premi said: ‘Higher castes’ have been insistent that ‘lower castes’ do not share pinf Gurdwara with them. have heard some do not want to take Amrit with’ lower castes’ Yep, and then the same people doing the exclusions, complain when people leave. What retards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said: Makes me laugh (or more like cry), when certain fudhoos amongst us constantly harp on about not being Hindus but then act exactly like the worst of them in a Gurdwara of all places: Dalit Christians accuse Indian Church of discrimination A group of Dalit Christians in India's Tamil Nadu state have staged a protest ahead of the consecration of Bishop Arulselvam Rayappan in Salem. The July 23 protest, organized by the Dalit Christian Liberation Movement (DCLM) in front of the District Collector’s Office in Salem, condemned the "untouchability" practiced in the country, particularly in Tamil Nadu. More than 100 protesters also met the district collector and presented a memorandum complaining about the caste discrimination against Dalits in the Catholic Church. They urged the government of Tamil Nadu and the federal government to take action to end discrimination against Dalit Christians. “We have taken to the streets as our repeated demand to appoint bishops of Dalit origin in Tamil Nadu have failed. Our plight remains unheard and ignored by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church,” Mary John, president of the DCLM, told UCA News. “We want the consecration of the new bishop, Arulselvam Rayappan, in Salem scheduled for Aug. 4 to be stopped until a Dalit archbishop and bishops are appointed in the remaining vacancies in Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry. The protesters demand Bishop Peter Abir of Sultanpet, the apostolic administrator of Pondicherry-Cuddalore Archdiocese, go back to his diocese. “Nepotism and discrimination are happening, particularly in Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry, where only non-Dalit bishops and archbishops have been appointed during the past 15 years. “There is only one Dalit bishop in the 18 Catholic dioceses in the region even though Dalits comprise about 75 percent of the Catholics here, making their representation negligible. This situation has continued for decades.” The protesters also appealed to Pope Francis to intervene to end caste discrimination in the Indian Church. The DCLM has been raising this issue for the past three decades with numerous letters and appeals to the Indian Catholic hierarchy and apostolic nuncios. “We have been also constantly making representations to the Vatican. We took to public protests to show our agony and anger, hoping to raise the consciousness of the Church over caste injustice,” John said. “During the past one year especially, we have staged more concerted public protests and street rallies because we realized that our silence, pious hope and prayerful appeals for decades have only been defeated. With all this we hoped that at least now our demand would be met with sensitivity and sensibility." Bishop Sebastianappan Singaroyan of Salem told UCA News that “we came to know through the local newspaper that there was a small group protesting at the district collector’s office but more than that we have no other information.” Father L. Sahayaraj, deputy secretary of the Tamil Nadu Bishops’ Council, told UCA News that he was not aware of any protest. Regarding the Dalit Christian issue, he said: “I have nothing to say on that subject.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said: Yep, and then the same people doing the exclusions, complain when people leave. What retards. Be skeptical of these conversion stories. Hugh amount of money is coming from western countries to convert them to Christian's. Also, Christian groups have been studying dharmic Faith's to find weakness to convert. There was a story that one Christian college had 9 professors that specialize in hinduism. Studying each sampradays to find how to convert them easily. Books have written on how to convert Sikhs easily. Saying that Sikhs are the easiest to convert because they lack any identity. That's why the biggest growth is happening in punjab. Already 4 states in india are Christian majority. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted October 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Be skeptical of these conversion stories. Hugh amount of money is coming from western countries to convert them to Christian's. Also, Christian groups have been studying dharmic Faith's to find weakness to convert. There was a story that one Christian college had 9 professors that specialize in hinduism. Studying each sampradays to find how to convert them easily. Books have written on how to convert Sikhs easily. Saying that Sikhs are the easiest to convert because they lack any identity. That's why the biggest growth is happening in punjab. Already 4 states in india are Christian majority. 1 hour ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Dalit Christians accuse Indian Church of discrimination A group of Dalit Christians in India's Tamil Nadu state have staged a protest ahead of the consecration of Bishop Arulselvam Rayappan in Salem. The July 23 protest, organized by the Dalit Christian Liberation Movement (DCLM) in front of the District Collector’s Office in Salem, condemned the "untouchability" practiced in the country, particularly in Tamil Nadu. More than 100 protesters also met the district collector and presented a memorandum complaining about the caste discrimination against Dalits in the Catholic Church. They urged the government of Tamil Nadu and the federal government to take action to end discrimination against Dalit Christians. “We have taken to the streets as our repeated demand to appoint bishops of Dalit origin in Tamil Nadu have failed. Our plight remains unheard and ignored by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church,” Mary John, president of the DCLM, told UCA News. “We want the consecration of the new bishop, Arulselvam Rayappan, in Salem scheduled for Aug. 4 to be stopped until a Dalit archbishop and bishops are appointed in the remaining vacancies in Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry. The protesters demand Bishop Peter Abir of Sultanpet, the apostolic administrator of Pondicherry-Cuddalore Archdiocese, go back to his diocese. “Nepotism and discrimination are happening, particularly in Tamil Nadu and Pondicherry, where only non-Dalit bishops and archbishops have been appointed during the past 15 years. “There is only one Dalit bishop in the 18 Catholic dioceses in the region even though Dalits comprise about 75 percent of the Catholics here, making their representation negligible. This situation has continued for decades.” The protesters also appealed to Pope Francis to intervene to end caste discrimination in the Indian Church. The DCLM has been raising this issue for the past three decades with numerous letters and appeals to the Indian Catholic hierarchy and apostolic nuncios. “We have been also constantly making representations to the Vatican. We took to public protests to show our agony and anger, hoping to raise the consciousness of the Church over caste injustice,” John said. “During the past one year especially, we have staged more concerted public protests and street rallies because we realized that our silence, pious hope and prayerful appeals for decades have only been defeated. With all this we hoped that at least now our demand would be met with sensitivity and sensibility." Bishop Sebastianappan Singaroyan of Salem told UCA News that “we came to know through the local newspaper that there was a small group protesting at the district collector’s office but more than that we have no other information.” Father L. Sahayaraj, deputy secretary of the Tamil Nadu Bishops’ Council, told UCA News that he was not aware of any protest. Regarding the Dalit Christian issue, he said: “I have nothing to say on that subject.” Are you retarded? How does that have any impact on what I'm saying about certain peasant jaats practicing apartheid at both ground, pend level and at Gurdwaras themselves. You're another moorakh in denial by the sounds of it. Anyone who has an ounce of integrity will admit to this. And it says a lot that I posted this video on SS 3 odd days ago, and they still haven't authorised it. That's how deep rooted the rot is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premi Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said: And it says a lot that I posted this video on SS 3 odd days ago, and they still haven't authorised it. That's how deep rooted the rot is. Nope, anything with a link in a post has to be 'authorized' since the 'upgrade'. And they do not log in for days sometimes to authorize stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 3 hours ago, dalsingh101 said: Are you retarded? How does that have any impact on what I'm saying about certain peasant jaats practicing apartheid at both ground, pend level and at Gurdwaras themselves. You're another moorakh in denial by the sounds of it. Anyone who has an ounce of integrity will admit to this. And it says a lot that I posted this video on SS 3 odd days ago, and they still haven't authorised it. That's how deep rooted the rot is. You totally missed what dass was saying. Your making this only about jaat but the fact is jaat is only one component there are other factors that you should take into account like Gurdwara Politics (committee infighting) Ignorance of people People taking advantage of people. In the previous topic. You posted a video of farmer having someone who he made to work for free. The farmer was clearly taking advantage of that poor person. Thank Waheguru that people informed the sikh organization who got him out of that bad situation. This didn't have anything to do with jaat. Dass is trying to say dont make everything into jaat issue. When sometimes it isn't. Just like how feminists make everything into men vs women. Or other people black vs white. You dont get to the truth of the matter by putting everything under a generic term. Everything should be separated and classified according to its correct category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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