Sajjan_Thug Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 All these red arrows are churches surrounding Golden Temple ...many funded by Canada based evangelical groups. Dass went on google maps and found there were 36 churches around Darbar Sahib. Are our sampradays doing anything about this? Are they even aware of this problem? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premi Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Sajjan_Thug said: All these red arrows are churches surrounding Golden Temple ...many funded by Canada based evangelical groups. Dass went on google maps and found there were 36 churches around Darbar Sahib. Are our sampradays doing anything about this? Are they even aware of this problem? Interesting, thanks for raising this. What made you research it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 On 1/19/2024 at 5:08 AM, Premi said: Interesting, thanks for raising this. What made you research it? Waheguru Ji Dass came across the picture with the arrows, saying those are churches. Dass, thought it might be fake so went on google maps to see and found that there were 36 churches around Darbar Sahib. The conversion of Sikhs has been going on since colonial times and Sikhs have no awareness of it. Hazur Sahib caretaker was appointed by the british and Darbar Sahib was going to be converted to a church in 1877. The colonialist stole hugh amount of land from sikh sampradeys and built churches and mission schools on top of it to convert Sikhs. Dass, posted a video of Missionaries going inside Darbar Sahib to convert. Also, the 4th largest church in the world is in Punjab with 118,000 membets Over 1800 new churches were built in punjab and christianity increased by 600%. You probably didn't know but there are over 3 christian majority states in india. While sikhs have become a minority in punjab. Hugh amount of money is coming in to convert us a d we are asleep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 They've come to pay homage to their Lord's house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 On 1/26/2024 at 6:13 AM, GurjantGnostic said: They've come to pay homage to their Lord's house. But dont Christian's believe sikhs are going to hell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 On 1/19/2024 at 5:08 AM, Premi said: Interesting, thanks for raising this. What made you research it? According to this they want to build 400,000 churches by 2030. They have already built 1,800 churches in punjab. What's your opinion on this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premi Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 6 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: But dont Christian's believe sikhs are going to hell. That's what I thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 29 Report Share Posted January 29 8 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: But dont Christian's believe sikhs are going to hell. Christians say all sorts of shit they can't back up I bust them on. Read Matthew 25 31 to 46 where Christ says who makes it, then apply it to Gursikhs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted January 29 Author Report Share Posted January 29 4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: Christians say all sorts of shit they can't back up I bust them on. Read Matthew 25 31 to 46 where Christ says who makes it, then apply it to Gursikhs. Would you say the average Christian today believes sikhs are going to hell and are actively seeking to convert Sikhs. Dont you think that's why they built 36 churches around Darbar Sahib to convert sikhs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 15 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: Would you say the average Christian today believes sikhs are going to hell and are actively seeking to convert Sikhs. Dont you think that's why they built 36 churches around Darbar Sahib to convert sikhs. Definitely. They think 35 of those churches going to hell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 You run into any christian saying dumb stuff, have them come talk or run it by me. What doctrines of so called christians don't you like? Let's see if it's biblical? Let's see if your Sikh intuition is correct. It is. But lemme show ya. Reincarnation, weapons, heaven, hell, how long, what is salvation, for who etc. Any topic Veer Ji. Lemme show ya how to bust rice bag bandits and shame any Sikh that left Akal Sena to be a civillian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Sittin here just salivating to debunk. Hit me with your favorite christian bukwas fam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sajjan_Thug Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said: You run into any christian saying dumb stuff, have them come talk or run it by me. What doctrines of so called christians don't you like? Let's see if it's biblical? Let's see if your Sikh intuition is correct. It is. But lemme show ya. Reincarnation, weapons, heaven, hell, how long, what is salvation, for who etc. Any topic Veer Ji. Lemme show ya how to bust rice bag bandits and shame any Sikh that left Akal Sena to be a civillian. Christian's say only there religion gets people to God other religions are of demons. Christians say non Christians can't get salvation. That Jesus is the only way all other ways are false. Why do some Sikhs say all religions are saying the same thing. When the other religions are actively converting them by building 36 churches around Darbar sahib. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, Sajjan_Thug said: 1.Christian's say only there religion gets people to God 2.other religions are of demons. 1.Christians say non Christians can't get salvation. 1.b That Jesus is the only way all other ways are false. I can debunk all that with one parable brother. Matthew 25 31 to 46. It's the parable where Christ says who a sheep, saved, and whos a goat not saved. Let's see what He said. “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” So Christ says he gathers all nations. Not just israel etc. That they will be divided into sheep and goats. Sheep are those who uplift the weak and beset and goats the ones that don't or do the opposite. For the record the greek says heaven or hell for aionion. Which means a long time forever like a Yugh. Let's look at Christ's greatest commandment. Same book earlier chapter. Matthew 22:36-40 King James Version 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Naam Simran 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Sikh Daya 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. So according to Jesus bro....anyone and everyone have the same chance to enter heaven for a Yugh and it's based on love of God and creation. Like Gurbani says... Now let's take a profound moment and look at the list of things Sheep do. for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me Like a straight list of how we roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 So we have Jesus saying the salvation he offers is for anyone who is kind and commanding us to love God, self, all others. We have zero verses claiming what christians claim. Who are often of the devil despite having the Word. Jesus doesn't mention faith, beleif, affiliation, race, cult nothing in that parable. He keeps mentioning Love, the verb. I'm unaware of anywhere the Bible actually contradicts Gurbani. Only human dogma made by devils not based on their bible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 ਕਹੁਕਬੀਰਮੇਰੇਮਾਧਵਾਤੂਸਰਬਬਿਆਪੀ॥ kahu kabeer mere maadhavaa too sarab biaapee || Says Kabeer, O my Lord, You are contained in all. Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Bilaaval - 856 Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 And I maintain what those churches are really doing is prostrating to Har Mandir and Akal S3na. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 If we lose anyone to rice bags it's because we dropped the ball. And the poor rice bags will realize what they gave up one day. In heaven or sooner. But they will wish they stayed Akali. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 The wretch demands more christian bukwas to devour or he won't be able to control himself and this thread will turn into a neuroatypical wall of correlations! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 If it is our desire to refute Christianity rice bag conversion and what is now known as India it would be most effectively done using the Bible and Gurbani. As well as the world in history as we know it through a theological or theist lens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 On 1/25/2024 at 3:21 AM, Sajjan_Thug said: Hazur Sahib caretaker was appointed by the british and Darbar Sahib was going to be converted to a church in 1877. Until Angel of Th3 Lord came or sent someone similar to appear before the british? Sikh history is the same age as euros in americas. It just happened. That's a super recent historical miracle, proovable, and in our favor. I like to go to that and zeitoon miracles as historically documented miracles when debating atheists, especially when christians are there to see it. Because they see me debate for Mary and Christ, as well as Sikhi, and win a debate that moves an atheist closer to theism at the same time. These two miracles solve historically that God is real and that they are who sent the Sikhs. There's only two churches in modern history visibly blessed by Holy Apparitions, that I know of. The Coptic Church in Zeitoon. And Harmandir Sahib. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 And there is basically a satanic agenda to misuse Christ, so as to dishonor, pervert, subvert, control, tarnish everything around him. Same is and will be done to us and the Guru Saibhan. We must be vigilant as hawks and keep this garden and everything done in it's name Khalsa. Or they will malign us as well fully as we see them attempting full time like devils especially the last 60 years. But from what should be dharmistan to the uk, you're identity is being taken and misused. And narratives written and played out like hollywood. Khalislands. We need to be self sufficient and independent in pockets globally. After maturing in that we maybe could run a country. If we do it ignorantly we'll ruin our legacy. And be simply puppets of who knows who. We should change tactics in india to calling out for Dharmistan. One day and every day until that day, Khalsa Raj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Everything they say is in the Bible. Say "Show me in the Bible". Then read it in context and also bring it here for our communal edification and my personal enjoyment please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Feeling so good I had to go wreck a whole room of bhi mods in their echo chamber with that Matthew 25 31 to 46 and buried their whole blackkk doctrine. So called camp leaders. All chatcapitated. Same can be done to all these cults in india in five seconds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 This argument destroys any christian converter who isn't a trinitarian+* so it defeats all JW, LDS, muslims, unitarians, arians, oneness. Everyone but trinitarians. Isaiah 48 verses 16 and 17 “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me.” Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: “I am the LORD your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go. So any sect of christianity that says Christ isn't God themself saving us, In a humbled form, they're contradicting the Bible in many places. This one just the oldest and simplest. So take 36 churches. Remove all non trinitarians how many left? Then we go after the trinitarians who are the lone survivors in this debate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.