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After reading one of the post where a particular individual was trying too hard to prove that sikhism is off shoot of shiasim, their is another person name ch rajinder nijjar who thinks sikhism is christanity,just read what he has written and kindly reply,

The blind guides of the "letters" make most people to believe that Christ Jesus shall appear again but very unfortunately the qualities of "Christ" are not perceived by many of them. Christ cannot be perceived unless God blesses the person with "Holy spirit" to do so. You will be unbelievably surprised to know that the second anointed Christ came in India in the name of "NANAK" in 1469 and has gone!!!

"Christ" stands for the "Royal Priest of our Royal Father God" and in Panjabi, He is called a "SATGURU", the "Spiritual Preacher". So, we call SATGURU NANAK DEVJI as the "Christ Nanak" and His coming was predicted by Christ Jesus in Matt.24.27: For as the lightning cometh out of the East and shineth even unto the West; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.

But why the anointed "Christ" first came in the Middle East and then in the East? This is because in the Dark Age opposite happens to the past enlightened Ages. For example, in the enlightened Age(YUG) TRETA, king Ravan of Sri Lanka, then known as "Lanka", was a renowned PANDIT(Rabbi) - Matt.13.52 - and he had made Lanka a heaven by establishing an excellent law and order but to-day, the same Lanka(secular) is called Sri(Celestial) Lanka, i.e. highly spiritual, but instead of heaven, it is a living example of "Hell".

In the same way, in the Middle East king David and his people of "Judah" tribe were very religious people but to-day they are the most spiritually sick people of all who needed the Spiritual Doctor Christ Jesus the most. But they rather betrayed and killed Him.

In India, the people of Khatri tribe are the most spiritually sick people of all and Christ Nanak took birth among them but again they hated, tortured and killed those Who carried on His Mantel. In fact, the Khatris especially of the Kashmir valley who became Muslims were the worst of all most powerful AL-DJMAAR AL-AKSAS.

Thus, in the past enlightened Ages the Prophets used to appear first in the "East", India and then in the Middle East but in this Dark Age, the opposite was to be expected i.e. first the Christ came in the M.East and then in the East.

So, the Gospels preached by Christ Jesus and Christ Nanak are the same but meant for the people of differing intellect and the "Jerusalem Temple" that was destroyed for ever in 70 A.D. has been replaced by the "Golden Temple" of Amritsar, which is, at present, highly infested by the Mammon worshippers. But why the people are in the "Dark" about these simple facts?

Most people have the notion that the universities harbour highly intelligent theologians and, therefore, they just take their views as final. But this is not so as the university theologians are the most stupid and arrogant people that an ordinary working sensible person can come across. Universities can only teach "letters" whereas the New Testament or "His Word" is to be studied in "Holy spirit", which is received in measures by the individual through the "grace" of God.

God being "Spirit", only the "men" of spirit, and not the people of flesh, can perceive Him through Gospel - Thomas Logo 114: Simon Peter(the only disciple of flesh) said to them: Let Mary go out from among us, because women are not worthy of the Life. Jesus said: See, I shall lead her, so that I will make her male, that she too may become a living spirit, resembling you males. For every woman who makes herself male will enter the Kingdom of God. This Parable is not an easy one to grasp as it is beyond the capabilities of the theologians of letters. Yet the ordinary sensible people can grasp it after its exposition but that too depends upon the grace of God.

In fact, "spirit" is nothing else but the "common sense", which the persons of "letters" highly lack as they always wrestle with letters - the Parable of wounded person and the Samaritan - St. Luke 10.30-37: And Jesus answering said, "A certain man went down from Jerusalem(after performing the pilgrimage at the Temple full of the psychic "cheats") to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

And by chance there came down a certain priest(well versed in the "letters" of the law but lacking the "spirit", as those who objected Jesus healing people on Sabbath) that way; and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side(he was not interested in the welfare of the people other than those that were in his parish or of his own kind and also he had to go by the letters of the "book" and not the spirit of "heart", the Seat of God or of Holy Spirit). And likewise a Levite(who had become Mammon worshippers rather than God and, therefore, had lost track of their duties), when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side(because in Mammon worshipping, there is no place for "mercy", the inherent quality of the men of God).

But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion on him. And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that showed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise".

Thus, the Samaritan who was not learned in the "letters" had the spiritual laws of humanity written over his heart rather than in the books and that was the main reason why Jesus chose the ordinary working people as His close-circle disciples and none of the "donkeys" carrying the holy books could be a suitable disciple - Luke 7.36-50, the invitation of arrogant Pharisee Simon.

So, the present "super donkeys" have no place in the ministry of Jesus but rather they play a very important role in the ministry of Mammon to misguide the spiritually dead people through their university degrees in the letters.

Further, as regards the men of letters are concerned, the Rabbis, Pharisees, etc. especially at the times of Jesus were well advanced in the letters than the present university professors in theology and you are well aware how foolishly they used to react to Gospel which Jesus was preaching - Thomas Logo 28: Jesus said:"I took my stand in the midst of the world i.e. Middle East, and in flesh I appeared to them; I found them all drunk(with the old wine of the letters), I found none among them athirst. And my soul was afflicted for the sons of men, because they are blind in their hearts(spiritually) and do not see that empty they have come into the world and that empty they seek to go out of the world again. But now they are drunk. When they have shaken off their wine(left dependence on the letters of holy books), then will they repent".

For example, Bro. David Jenkins, the bishop of Durham tries to shake off the old wine of the letters but the other drunkards make an up-roar against him. In fact, the "letters" being the old wine, only the old skins(people grown old drinking it i.e. the orthodox or the conservative) can contain whilst the New Wine of Jesus that is to be brewed afresh every day through "Holy spirit" needs new skins(people with liberal views and capable of "Reasoning") to contain.

Thus, for Jesus and His disciples, the learned Rabbis, Pharisees, etc. were just "donkeys" carrying the Holy Books but the present university theologians, who specialise in the letters of both the old and the New Testaments, are nothing else but the "Super Donkeys" carrying the "Most Holy Book", the New Testament. These super donkeys are so drunk with the old wine of the letters that if an ordinary person of spirit tells them the spiritual exposition of Gospel, they not only hate him but also brand him a "Super Heretic".

For example, the Samaritan woman at well, John 4, was a highly moral and religious spinster, who had overpowered the five spiritual husbands called the evil temptations of heart, which were: 1. Lust for sex(KAAM), 2. Anger(KARODH), 3. Greed(LOBH), 4. Worldly temptations(MOH) and the fifth and the last one Pride of her religious knowledge(HANKAAR). The above names of these five spiritual husbands are well known to the Indian professors of theology but they too being well blinded by the old wine of the letters cannot perceive things beyond their own fields of study. These five are further stressed by Jesus in Thomas Logo 16: ....For there shall be five in a house(physical body): three(lust for sex, anger and pride of the religious knowledge by the "letters") shall be against two(greed and worldly temptations) and two against three, the father against the son and the son against the father, and they shall stand as solitary. It is only in the house dominated by Jesus or the "Holy ghost" that all the five are under control and the house is at "Peace" and the person is "solitary".

Finally, the present Dark Age is not of the "works" but of the "spirit" in which God Who is a "Spirit" is to be worshipped in Truth(SATT) and "Holy spirit" or "contentment", the chief Aim of Gospel. Spirit being common sense, only a few living people can understand Gospel in "spirit" whilst the "dead" in spirit take to the letters of the New Testament. All that is happening in the world is taking place according to the "Will of God", which only the "men" of Holy spirit can understand. So, please wake up and ponder over the message of love that Jesus has proclaimed.

To read about more such topics go to http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/sikhism.htm

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amar_jkp has of couse totally misunderstood the content of what he posted. The author claims precisely that Christianity has gone astray and the Guru Nanak is the Christ of his age. This isn't anti-Sikh propaganda just Mr. Nijjar's opinion. Unfortunately Mr. Nijjar's argument contains far too many easy associations and mistakes undermining a basic argument that isn't that wrong namely: that Guru Nanak is the Christ of his age as much as Jesus was the Satguru of his own age.amar_jkp should perhaps start understanding what he posts before playing panthic police.

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