Matheen Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Fateh! Back in the UK after a few years and thought I'd hook up with some old friends - Singhs who inspired me to get into Sikhi, Singhs I'd literally spent all night with singing kirtan, good Singhs. what do i find?!!! they ( couple of them were known as the Hitchin crew in my uni days) have given up the gift of Maharaj Ji's own sroop and gone the other way. OK, everyone has a right to do what they want, but for me to see this was like seeing a slap to Guru Ji. Of course I still know they are the same on the inside etc, etc but it was heartbreaking to say the least. What the heck happened to some of our sangat in the last 2 - 3 years? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Ah man if you only knew LOL why do think I left that whole scene? Or did you guys really think that campfire and camp Sikhi was going to work... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matheen Posted September 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Sikhi is a hard path for sure - "Khanio Thiki Valo Nikki", and sometimes i think i should just worry about myself because God knows I'm not perfect, but it hurts to see a brother go the wrong way. Or did you guys really think that campfire and camp Sikhi was going to work... don't really know what the answer is....but i KNOW that part of the problem is 'our leaders' not practising what they preach while keeping bana on the outside but not the inside. Now I know why Maharaj ji says that out of crore people, there will only be 1 true premi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 1. Sikh leaders don't know what they're talking about and especially in the UK. You have a bunge ex-mone born again amritdharis who have NO knowledge of the languages of gurbani, its history, theology. Essential theological terms like eschatology or theophany are totally unknown to them. 2. The community is too obsessed with money and being acceptable to white people. So culture, knowledge and religion are not supported at all. Gurdware are just there to celebrate weddings and for spoiled brats to hold akhand paths for their exams or birthdays. 3. As soon as someone does know how to interpret gurbani and shows more knowledge than others these same born-agains exclude him or her so their power doesn't get treatened. What they teach the kids is not how to understand gurbani by teaching them the languages etc...what they teach them is a pre-fixed bs programm made by either AKJ or Federation. Of course people will say: wha' did ya try to do to change that And I'll say: I tried to teach but I was not allowed to. Imam Ali (as) said:"People get the leadership they deserve!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 To continue with quotes, some from that classic 1980's movie: 1. For those concerned about the "pre-fixed bs programm made by either AKJ or Federation": Daniel: Don't those lies bother you? Miyagi: No. Daniel: Why not? people might think that they are true. Miyagi: Lies only become true if person choose to believe. 2. And for Javanmard: Daniel: Hey Mr. Miyagi, you know I've been thinking. Mr. Miyagi: About what, Daniel-San? Daniel: That we should come up with some kind of strategy. Mr. Miyagi: For what? Daniel: My future, my whole tournament career. Mr. Miyagi: Miyagi already have one. Daniel: Really? What is it? Mr. Miyagi: Early retirement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Early retirement. Killer joke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Early retirement LOL Are ya callin me a admin cut o what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 LOL. smashed it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 javanmard wrote: "Early retirement LOL Are ya callin me a admin cut o what?" JM, what is a "admin cut o" ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 It means yeah u callin me a fag inni jus coz I took early retardment don mean nuffin yeah! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 yeh, u betta say soz! cuz I dun fink babaji lykes peeps collin' bare peeps retard! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niranjana Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Good heavens, I am mortified reading the last few posts by JM and forward backwards, really says a lot about this community, when western born, educated youth, with full access to education, free thinking and knowledge, cannot even write coherent English, particularly seeing that one of these is even a scholar at the most prestigious university in the entire universe, no wonder the world is in chaos! You had your chances guys, Neo Singh has tried hard to moderate this forum to ensure quality and not quantity remain priorities, however alas, he has failed on both accounts and its all your fault! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yeah Niranj jus coz u no how 2 rite ur name don meen nuffin don mean u smart inni! u jus fink u betta than peeps coz u can spell ur name u joka! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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