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Nobody buy Pulsar these days and most of the bullets that Sikhs have are second hand modified it cost just 35000 rupees. The areas i am talking have 50 % Sikh population of Delhi.

Come to west Delhi areas like Tilak Nagar , Sant Nagar, Varinder Ngr, Shahpura , Fateh Ngr , Shiv Ngr and whole area of Jail Road. I see more bullets then that fudu Pulsar.

Transport Business in no longer a profitable that's why Sikhs have movey away from it. Many of my family members who were in transport business have left it and they all have move into construction business . In India there is a new trend has come up people give their old hoses to builders and he will built three floors and will take one and rest two will be given to owner. Most Sikhs are into this business . As per my cousins who lived Melbourne Australia, Sikhs have taken over transport business in Melbourne.

Come to India outside Punajab stay with they makes you to hate them. Everything has a limit and these people have crossed their Limit and i am not the exception case every Sikh youth thinks same about Hindus . They don't like us and say openly against Sikh just because we are in minority . And we reply then we are mad Sardars . I don't think Sikhs have any future here . I lived in India but i have i am not Indian . I am Sikh just Sikh I have my flag and i have my National Anthem . We all are one Sikh Nation. Learn from Muslims to live like a Nation in a Nation . We should burn Indian Flag on 15 th Aug

Things have changed a lot Sant Bhindranwale is now undisputed Sikh youth icon all over the world. We Sikhs dont follow Hinduism as there is no such thing called Hinduism . We know who was our founder these so called Hindus , Arya or Sanathan Dharmi dont know about their origin . What we called to a child who doesn't know about his father. And they way things are going in India Hinduism will be taken over Bai Shirdi Sai Baba Cult. They all have become Sai Baba followers , every mandir has his murti now. Fakir Sai has become Om Sai Ram . How can they worship a Muslim who lived all his life in Mosque and never accepted Hinduism . These fools can worship anything . Now days Hindus favorite song is Sai by Satinder Sartaj . They think its about their Sai Baba lol.

Chinese have won only one War and that was against India . Last time they tried to use their army was against Vietnam and what happened they were force to pull back by Vietnam Militia . Yes Militia not army. As per China war doctrine they want to teach Vietnam , India and Taiwan a lesson then they will go after Japan.

They want to copy Jatts they all want Bullet Bikes and want to pump up their muscles but they dont have big hearts many times they get kicked by Sikhs . And its not only these Khatri Arore Hindus its our own Sikh too want to behave like Jatts majority of Sikhs have Bullet Bike with Khanda and Sant Bhindranwale Stickers on them . They all want to wear Punjabi Kurta Pajamas with gol pugh. Can u believe this that in place like Delhi Sikhs have Sant Bhindranwale stickers on their Cars and Bikes.

They want to copy Jatts they all want Bullet Bikes and want to pump up their muscles but they dont have big hearts many times they get kicked by Sikhs . And its not only these Khatri Arore Hindus its our own Sikh too want to behave like Jatts majority of Sikhs have Bullet Bike with Khanda and Sant Bhindranwale Stickers on them . They all want to wear Punjabi Kurta Pajamas with gol pugh. Can u believe this that in place like Delhi Sikhs have Sant Bhindranwale stickers on their Cars and Bikes.

Yes , i am talking about Chinese Sun Tse . What about Vidur Niti. As per Mahabharat he was Prime Minister of Koravs.

Yes I am talking about Hindu Khatris / Aroras specially from Multan. These people are real Sikhs Haters they say shit against almost everyone . They have problem with Sikh , Muslims and Biharis and Haryanvi Jaats. Because of them Punajbis repo is of arrogant and Show of type people and whats funny about them is against non Punjabis they will show their Punjabi culture but infront of Sikh they will i dont like speaking Punjabi. These Khatris fudus are Jattwanabe types, they will have Khanda Sticker on their Cars and will wore Kadas but with hate for Sikhs not for Guru Sahibs but SIKHS !! Strange People .

There is another Granth called Vidhur Niti and Art of War any one heard of these.

They need Army in Afghanistan to keep Iran under Control. Iran is surrounded by Western forces . Sooner or Later they will go after Iran .

Yes there is a section of Hindus who hate Sikhs and that section is Punjabi Hindus . I live in Delhi NCR and know their mentality but what suprising is that its not Punjabi Brahmins or Banias its Khatris and Aroras. Even Gurdwara going khatri Arore has anti Sikh mentality they will talk Prahji and Verji at ur face and at ur back they would say admin cut SARDARS Gianis . Even non Punjabi Hindus dont like Punjabi Hindus (Khatris and Aroras) Anyone know why these Khatris /Aroras have anti Sikh mentality ?

On one hand Ravidasia Chamars talk about discrimination they faced from Jatts but what about their discrimination against Valmikis and Majbis ? Everybody knows its Chamars who have taken majority of Dalits reserve jobs and Valmikis are still cleaning toilets.

Majority of Dalits are Hindus in Punjab not Sikhs and all these Balan Dere aale are 99% Hindus. What we need is to adapt Zionist policy of converting and helping people to settle down in Punjab. And why cant our Khalisthani Sikh go back and settle down in Punjab what Zionist Jews do by moving to Israel. We should set up our own Colonies and Villages . All organization should work on setting up more Gurmat Academies and Taksaals.

Are these sect still exist ? Does these sects respect Guru Granth sahib ji ?

I have started this topic to know is this poem exist because this information was on a Hindu site. http://www.hinduweb.org/home/sikh/rverma/rsingh.html

I have started this topic to know is this poem exist because this information was on a Hindu site. http://www.hinduweb.org/home/sikh/rverma/rsingh.html

Makke-Madine di Goshti is a poem

In this poem Guru Nanak sahib ji refers to the Sufis Moinuddin Chishti (of Ajmer) and Shah Madar (of Makanpur) as imposters who were leading Hindus astray with the intention of converting them. Is it True.

Instead of RSS sikhs should improve their relation with AD dharmis and satnamis. Its time to take over all caste based gurdwaras and bring dalits more closer to gurmat

Admin Cut. Please mind your language in this forum amar_jkp, read the rules and regulations of this forum before posting. If you keep posting like this, you wont last a day here.

After reading one of the post where a particular individual was trying too hard to prove that sikhism is off shoot of shiasim, their is another person name ch rajinder nijjar who thinks sikhism is christanity,just read what he has written and kindly reply, The blind guides of the "letters" make most people to believe that Christ Jesus shall appear again but very unfortunately the qualities of "Christ" are not perceived by many of them. Christ cannot be perceived unless God blesses the person with "Holy spirit" to do so. You will be unbelievably surprised to know that the second anointed Christ came in India in the name of "NANAK" in 1469 and has gone!!! "Christ" stands for the "Royal Priest of our Royal Father God" and in Panjabi, He is called a "SATGURU", the "Spiritual Preacher". So, we call SATGURU NANAK DEVJI as the "Christ Nanak" and His coming was predicted by Christ Jesus in Matt.24.27: For as the lightning cometh out of the East and shineth even unto the West; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. But why the anointed "Christ" first came in the Middle East and then in the East? This is because in the Dark Age opposite happens to the past enlightened Ages. For example, in the enlightened Age(YUG) TRETA, king Ravan of Sri Lanka, then known as "Lanka", was a renowned PANDIT(Rabbi) - Matt.13.52 - and he had made Lanka a heaven by establishing an excellent law and order but to-day, the same Lanka(secular) is called Sri(Celestial) Lanka, i.e. highly spiritual, but instead of heaven, it is a living example of "Hell". In the same way, in the Middle East king David and his people of "Judah" tribe were very religious people but to-day they are the most spiritually sick people of all who needed the Spiritual Doctor Christ Jesus the most. But they rather betrayed and killed Him. In India, the people of Khatri tribe are the most spiritually sick people of all and Christ Nanak took birth among them but again they hated, tortured and killed those Who carried on His Mantel. In fact, the Khatris especially of the Kashmir valley who became Muslims were the worst of all most powerful AL-DJMAAR AL-AKSAS. Thus, in the past enlightened Ages the Prophets used to appear first in the "East", India and then in the Middle East but in this Dark Age, the opposite was to be expected i.e. first the Christ came in the M.East and then in the East. So, the Gospels preached by Christ Jesus and Christ Nanak are the same but meant for the people of differing intellect and the "Jerusalem Temple" that was destroyed for ever in 70 A.D. has been replaced by the "Golden Temple" of Amritsar, which is, at present, highly infested by the Mammon worshippers. But why the people are in the "Dark" about these simple facts? Most people have the notion that the universities harbour highly intelligent theologians and, therefore, they just take their views as final. But this is not so as the university theologians are the most stupid and arrogant people that an ordinary working sensible person can come across. Universities can only teach "letters" whereas the New Testament or "His Word" is to be studied in "Holy spirit", which is received in measures by the individual through the "grace" of God. God being "Spirit", only the "men" of spirit, and not the people of flesh, can perceive Him through Gospel - Thomas Logo 114: Simon Peter(the only disciple of flesh) said to them: Let Mary go out from among us, because women are not worthy of the Life. Jesus said: See, I shall lead her, so that I will make her male, that she too may become a living spirit, resembling you males. For every woman who makes herself male will enter the Kingdom of God. This Parable is not an easy one to grasp as it is beyond the capabilities of the theologians of letters. Yet the ordinary sensible people can grasp it after its exposition but that too depends upon the grace of God. In fact, "spirit" is nothing else but the "common sense", which the persons of "letters" highly lack as they always wrestle with letters - the Parable of wounded person and the Samaritan - St. Luke 10.30-37: And Jesus answering said, "A certain man went down from Jerusalem(after performing the pilgrimage at the Temple full of the psychic "cheats") to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. And by chance there came down a certain priest(well versed in the "letters" of the law but lacking the "spirit", as those who objected Jesus healing people on Sabbath) that way; and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side(he was not interested in the welfare of the people other than those that were in his parish or of his own kind and also he had to go by the letters of the "book" and not the spirit of "heart", the Seat of God or of Holy Spirit). And likewise a Levite(who had become Mammon worshippers rather than God and, therefore, had lost track of their duties), when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side(because in Mammon worshipping, there is no place for "mercy", the inherent quality of the men of God). But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion on him. And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that showed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise". Thus, the Samaritan who was not learned in the "letters" had the spiritual laws of humanity written over his heart rather than in the books and that was the main reason why Jesus chose the ordinary working people as His close-circle disciples and none of the "donkeys" carrying the holy books could be a suitable disciple - Luke 7.36-50, the invitation of arrogant Pharisee Simon. So, the present "super donkeys" have no place in the ministry of Jesus but rather they play a very important role in the ministry of Mammon to misguide the spiritually dead people through their university degrees in the letters. Further, as regards the men of letters are concerned, the Rabbis, Pharisees, etc. especially at the times of Jesus were well advanced in the letters than the present university professors in theology and you are well aware how foolishly they used to react to Gospel which Jesus was preaching - Thomas Logo 28: Jesus said:"I took my stand in the midst of the world i.e. Middle East, and in flesh I appeared to them; I found them all drunk(with the old wine of the letters), I found none among them athirst. And my soul was afflicted for the sons of men, because they are blind in their hearts(spiritually) and do not see that empty they have come into the world and that empty they seek to go out of the world again. But now they are drunk. When they have shaken off their wine(left dependence on the letters of holy books), then will they repent". For example, Bro. David Jenkins, the bishop of Durham tries to shake off the old wine of the letters but the other drunkards make an up-roar against him. In fact, the "letters" being the old wine, only the old skins(people grown old drinking it i.e. the orthodox or the conservative) can contain whilst the New Wine of Jesus that is to be brewed afresh every day through "Holy spirit" needs new skins(people with liberal views and capable of "Reasoning") to contain. Thus, for Jesus and His disciples, the learned Rabbis, Pharisees, etc. were just "donkeys" carrying the Holy Books but the present university theologians, who specialise in the letters of both the old and the New Testaments, are nothing else but the "Super Donkeys" carrying the "Most Holy Book", the New Testament. These super donkeys are so drunk with the old wine of the letters that if an ordinary person of spirit tells them the spiritual exposition of Gospel, they not only hate him but also brand him a "Super Heretic". For example, the Samaritan woman at well, John 4, was a highly moral and religious spinster, who had overpowered the five spiritual husbands called the evil temptations of heart, which were: 1. Lust for sex(KAAM), 2. Anger(KARODH), 3. Greed(LOBH), 4. Worldly temptations(MOH) and the fifth and the last one Pride of her religious knowledge(HANKAAR). The above names of these five spiritual husbands are well known to the Indian professors of theology but they too being well blinded by the old wine of the letters cannot perceive things beyond their own fields of study. These five are further stressed by Jesus in Thomas Logo 16: ....For there shall be five in a house(physical body): three(lust for sex, anger and pride of the religious knowledge by the "letters") shall be against two(greed and worldly temptations) and two against three, the father against the son and the son against the father, and they shall stand as solitary. It is only in the house dominated by Jesus or the "Holy ghost" that all the five are under control and the house is at "Peace" and the person is "solitary". Finally, the present Dark Age is not of the "works" but of the "spirit" in which God Who is a "Spirit" is to be worshipped in Truth(SATT) and "Holy spirit" or "contentment", the chief Aim of Gospel. Spirit being common sense, only a few living people can understand Gospel in "spirit" whilst the "dead" in spirit take to the letters of the New Testament. All that is happening in the world is taking place according to the "Will of God", which only the "men" of Holy spirit can understand. So, please wake up and ponder over the message of love that Jesus has proclaimed. To read about more such topics go to http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/sikhism.htm

More bakwas from chandu gangu dal The Guru Granth Sahib contains around 15,028 of references to Hindu concepts and the names of Hindu gods. A near-exact count is given in K.P. Agrawala: Adi Shrî Gurû Granth Sâhib kî Mahimâ (Hindi: “The greatness of the original sacred Guru scriptureâ€), p.2, and in Ram Swarup: “Hindu roots of Sikhismâ€, Indian Express, The name of the Hindu god Shri Ram, is recited 2,400 times, (the gods name whose constant repetition leads to salvation). Hari (Vishnu) over 8,300 times, 630 times by Guru Nanak alone, Parabrahman, 550 times, Omkara, (the primeval sound of OM) 400 times. Please note the names of countless other Hindu gods are also mentioned and are one and the same. In contrast the name Mohammed is never mentioned and the name allah is used but a couple of times, merely as an example. It is interesting to note that the Granth itself contains banis from seven of the sikh gurus, two muslim Sufis, but EIGHTEEN Hindu saints and pandits. The religious source of Sikhism is Hinduism, Sikhism is a tradition developed within Hinduism. Guru Granth Sahib reflect Vedantic philosophy, the Vedanta of Rishi Vedvyas who wrote the Mahabharat. The Japji Sahib is based on Upanishads. -- if there is still any DOUBT READ THIS BY GURU ANGAD lol: Awpy sUrw Amru clwieAw ] aapae sooraa amar chalaaeiaa || You Yourself are the hero, exerting Your regal power. 1 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev Awpy isv vrqweIAnu AMqir Awpy sIqlu Twru gVw ]13] aapae siv varathaaeean anthar aapae seethal thaar garraa ||13|| You Yourself spread peace within; You are cool and icy calm. ||13|| 1 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev ijsih invwjy gurmuiK swjy ] jisehi nivaajae guramukh saajae || One whom You bless and make Gurmukh 2 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev nwmu vsY iqsu Anhd vwjy ] naam vasai this anehadh vaajae || the Naam abides within him, and the unstruck sound current vibrates for him. 2 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev iqs hI suKu iqs hI TkurweI iqsih n AwvY jmu nyVw ]14] this hee sukh this hee thakuraaee thisehi n aavai jam naerraa ||14|| He is peaceful, and he is the master of all; the Messenger of Death does not even approach him. ||14|| 2 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev kImiq kwgd khI n jweI ] keemath kaagadh kehee n jaaee || His value cannot be described on paper. 3 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev khu nwnk byAMq gusweI ] kahu naanak baeanth gusaaee || Says Nanak, the Lord of the world is infinite. 3 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev Awid miD AMiq pRBu soeI hwiQ iqsY kY nybyVw ]15] aadh madhh anth prabh soee haathh thisai kai naebaerraa ||15|| In the beginning, in the middle and in the end, God exists. Judgement is in His Hands alone. ||15|| 3 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev iqsih srIku nwhI ry koeI ] thisehi sareek naahee rae koee || No one is equal to Him. 4 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev iks hI buqY jbwbu n hoeI ] kis hee buthai jabaab n hoee || No one can stand up against Him by any means. 4 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev nwnk kw pRBu Awpy Awpy kir kir vyKY coj KVw ]16]1]10] naanak kaa prabh aapae aapae kar kar vaekhai choj kharraa ||16||1||10|| Nanak's God is Himself all-in-all. He creates and stages and watches His wondrous plays. ||16||1||10|| 5 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev mwrU mhlw 5 ] maaroo mehalaa 5 || Maaroo, Fifth Mehl: 5 NULL NULL Acuq pwrbRhm prmysur AMqrjwmI ] achuth paarabreham paramaesur antharajaamee || The Supreme Lord God is imperishable, the Transcendent Lord, the Inner-knower, the Searcher of hearts. 6 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev mDusUdn dwmodr suAwmI ] madhhusoodhan dhaamodhar suaamee || He is the Slayer of demons, our Supreme Lord and Master. 6 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev irKIkys govrDn DwrI murlI mnohr hir rMgw ]1] rikheekaes govaradhhan dhhaaree muralee manohar har rangaa ||1|| The Supreme Rishi, the Master of the sensory organs, the uplifter of mountains, the joyful Lord playing His enticing flute. ||1|| 6 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev mohn mwDv ik®s~ murwry ] mohan maadhhav kirasa muraarae || The Enticer of Hearts, the Lord of wealth, Krishna, the Enemy of ego. 7 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev jgdIsur hir jIau Asur sMGwry ] jagadheesur har jeeo asur sanghaarae || The Lord of the Universe, the Dear Lord, the Destroyer of demons. 7 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev jgjIvn AibnwsI Twkur Gt Gt vwsI hY sMgw ]2] jagajeevan abinaasee thaakur ghatt ghatt vaasee hai sangaa ||2|| The Life of the World, our eternal and ever-stable Lord and Master dwells within each and every heart, and is always with us. ||2|| 7 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev DrxIDr eIs nrisMG nwrwiex ] dhharaneedhhar ees narasingh naaraaein || The Support of the Earth, the man-lion, the Supreme Lord God. 8 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev dwVw AgRy ipRQim Drwiex ] dhaarraa agrae prithham dhharaaein || The Protector who tears apart demons with His teeth, the Upholder of the earth. 8 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev bwvn rUpu kIAw quDu krqy sB hI syqI hY cMgw ]3] baavan roop keeaa thudhh karathae sabh hee saethee hai changaa ||3|| O Creator, You assumed the form of the pygmy to humble the demons; You are the Lord God of all. ||3|| 9 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev sRI rwmcMd ijsu rUpu n ryiKAw ] sree raamachandh jis roop n raekhiaa || You are the Great Raam Chand, who has no form or feature. 9 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev bnvwlI ck®pwix dris AnUipAw ] banavaalee chakrapaan dharas anoopiaa || Adorned with flowers, holding the chakra in Your hand, Your form is incomparably beautiful. 10 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev shs nyqR mUriq hY shsw ieku dwqw sB hY mMgw ]4] sehas naethr moorath hai sehasaa eik dhaathaa sabh hai mangaa ||4|| You have thousands of eyes, and thousands of forms. You alone are the Giver, and all are beggars of You. ||4|| 10 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev Bgiq vClu AnwQh nwQy ] bhagath vashhal anaathheh naathhae || You are the Lover of Your devotees, the Master of the masterless. 11 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev gopI nwQu sgl hY swQy ] gopee naathh sagal hai saathhae || The Lord and Master of the milk-maids, You are the companion of all. 11 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev bwsudyv inrMjn dwqy brin n swkau gux AMgw ]5] baasudhaev niranjan dhaathae baran n saako gun angaa ||5|| O Lord, Immacuate Great Giver, I cannot describe even an iota of Your Glorious Virtues. ||5|| 11 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev mukMd mnohr lKmI nwrwiex ] mukandh manohar lakhamee naaraaein || Liberator, Enticing Lord, Lord of Lakshmi, Supreme Lord God. 12 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev dRopqI ljw invwir auDwrx ] dhropathee lajaa nivaar oudhhaaran || Savior of Dropadi's honor. 12 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev kmlwkMq krih kMqUhl And ibnodI inhsMgw ]6] kamalaakanth karehi kanthoohal anadh binodhee nihasangaa ||6|| Lord of Maya, miracle-worker, absorbed in delightful play, unattached. ||6|| 12 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev AmoG drsn AwjUnI sMBau ] amogh dharasan aajoonee sanbho || The Blessed Vision of His Darshan is fruitful and rewarding; He is not born, He is self-existent. 13 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev Akwl mUriq ijsu kdy nwhI Kau ] akaal moorath jis kadhae naahee kho || His form is undying; it is never destroyed. 13 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev AibnwsI Aibgq Agocr sBu ikCu quJ hI hY lgw ]7] abinaasee abigath agochar sabh kishh thujh hee hai lagaa ||7|| O imperishable, eternal, unfathomable Lord, everything is attached to You. ||7|| 14 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev sRIrMg bYkuMT ky vwsI ] sreerang baikunth kae vaasee || The Lover of greatness, who dwells in heaven. 14 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev mCu kCu kUrmu AwigAw AauqrwsI ] mashh kashh kooram aagiaa aoutharaasee || By the Pleasure of His Will, He took incarnation as the great fish and the tortoise. 15 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev kysv clq krih inrwly kIqw loVih so hoiegw ]8] kaesav chalath karehi niraalae keethaa lorrehi so hoeigaa ||8|| The Lord of beauteous hair, the Worker of miraculous deeds, whatever He wishes, comes to pass. ||8|| 15 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev inrwhwrI inrvYru smwieAw ] niraahaaree niravair samaaeiaa || He is beyond need of any sustenance, free of hate and all-pervading. 16 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev Dwir Kylu cqurBuju khwieAw ] dhhaar khael chathurabhuj kehaaeiaa || He has staged His play; He is called the four-armed Lord. 16 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev swvl suMdr rUp bxwvih byxu sunq sB mohYgw ]9] saaval sundhar roop banaavehi baen sunath sabh mohaigaa ||9|| He assumed the beautiful form of the blue-skinned Krishna; hearing His flute, all are fascinated and enticed. ||9|| 16 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev bnmwlw ibBUKn kml nYn ] banamaalaa bibhookhan kamal nain || He is adorned with garlands of flowers, with lotus eyes. 17 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev suMdr kuMfl mukt bYn ] sundhar kunddal mukatt bain || His ear-rings, crown and flute are so beautiful. 17 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev sMK ck® gdw hY DwrI mhw swrQI sqsMgw ]10] sankh chakr gadhaa hai dhhaaree mehaa saarathhee sathasangaa ||10|| He carries the conch, the chakra and the war club; He is the Great Charioteer, who stays with His Saints. ||10|| 17 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev pIq pIqMbr iqRBvx DxI ] peeth peethanbar thribhavan dhhanee || The Lord of yellow robes, the Master of the three worlds. 18 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev jgMnwQu gopwlu muiK BxI ] jagannaathh gopaal mukh bhanee || The Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the world; with my mouth, I chant His Name. 18 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev swirMgDr Bgvwn bITulw mY gxq n AwvY srbMgw ]11] saaringadhhar bhagavaan beethulaa mai ganath n aavai sarabangaa ||11|| The Archer who draws the bow, the Beloved Lord God; I cannot count all His limbs. ||11|| 18 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev inhkMtku inhkyvlu khIAY ] nihakanttak nihakaeval keheeai || He is said to be free of anguish, and absolutely immaculate. 19 Maaroo Guru Arjan Dev DnµjY jil Qil hY mhIAY ] dhhananjai jal thhal hai meheeai || The Lord of prosperity, pervading the water, the land and the sky. Summary : IN 1500 , Guru Nanak Dev Ji ( 1469-1538 ad.), went to bathe in a stream and was missing for three days.His first statement when he came out was “neti, neti " (neither here, nor there from the Upanishads-Vedas) na koi hindu, na koi turkh, kudrat keh hain sab bandey". ...three days is a short time if you want to free yourself from acquired physics and start a new religion... the insight with which he came back with after three days retreat, as quoted by Khushwant Singh was entirely within Hindu tradition: " their is no muslim, no hindu" it does not mean that I Nanak, am neither hindu or muslim, it means that the self ( atma , timeless indweller, the object of this mystical experience) is beyond worldly divisions.... â€the self is neither black nor white, neither hindu nor muslim, neither this nor that : neti, neti ,†is the Upanishadic phrase from the Vedas, is as typically Hindu as you can get’’ Guru Nanak Dev Ji, continued the bhakti methods of the saints before him, starting with the oral repetition of the name "Rama Nama' If Guru Nanak Dev Ji’s discovery " neither hindu nor muslim" had meant a positive conclusion, wouldn’t he have said: "neither Hindu, nor Muslim , sab Sikh? It is strange that the statement used by many to say, he founded a new religion does not even mention this new religion? Ek Om Kar, was already there in the Vedas - Hindu text, it is still there today. Ek = single OM = supreme being KAR= sound. Guru Nanak merely emphasised that particular path. Ek Om Kar is originally a Hindu concept. some Sikh separatists like to say EK ‘ON’KAR! what does ‘on’ mean? Guru Angad was a devoted worshipper of the Goddess Durga. Every year he used to lead a group of devotees from Khadur Sahib, where he had settled, to the temple of Jwalamukhi in the lower Himalayas. In 1532 ad he met Guru Nanak at Kartarpur (pakistan) on his way to Jwalamukhi and became his disciple. Guru Nanak was most impressed with the devotion and selfless services of Lehna, that he proclaimed him as his successor guru in ad1539. As Nanak had previously embraced him, and because of the touch with his body e.g. "ang", he changed the name of Lehna to Angad, Guru Angad made Khadur sahib his headquarters. Humayun, the Mughal emperor called on him here and paid him homage. Sikhs were always known as a sect of Hinduism, which is why they continued celebrating traditional Hindu festivals such as Rakhri, Diwali, Lohri, Vaisakhi, Dusshera and Holi. Unlike the Hindus who became known as muslims and started celebrating muslim festivals. If indeed the Gurus wanted to create a new religion, would they not have created religious festivals to coincide and mark this new religions separate? The fourth guru, Ram Das (1574-1581a.d ), excavated a tank which subsequently became known as Amritsar (pool of nectar) and gave its name to the city that grew around it. in due course, a splendid edifice, Har-mandir (temple of Hari-Vishnu), rose in the middle of this tank and became the supreme centre of the sikh sect of hinduism ------ Instead, All ten Gurus marriages were conducted by Hindu pandits and they were married within Hindu rituals, as were other Sikhs until the Anand Karaj Act was passed in 1909. The Laava written by teh 4th Guru Ram Dass were about mans spiritual union wiv god, which can never be BROKEN, not about a union between man and woman! ------ Hindus and the Hindus who later became known as Sikhs, would worship together at Hari(Vishnu)-mandir Sahib, aptly named by the fourth guru Ram Dass,(1574-1581), it housed murtis of Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu and the 6th Guru Harigobind until 1906 and is today known as the golden temple. Some closed minded bigots refer to Hindus as Idol worshippers, but Idol worshiping is truly something that we do not do, we worship with great vigor, with heart and soul. Idol-worshipping is an offensive and derogatory term used by the British during the British Raj through shear ignorance to degrade our ancient religion. We use Murtis to help us worship we do not specifically worship these images, we use these as focal points to help us worship god