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37 minutes ago, Ragmaala said:

she is just findiing excuses to prove that mens beard is dirtier than menstruation.  I guess she likes hens menstrual waste so she likes womans menstruation too. She is just fishing for non-sense articles.

 

Agreed. You can always find some scientific study to back up any claim. Scientists were one day saying that one unit of alcohol a day cuts a year off your life, then some scientists were saying one unit of alchohol decreases risk of cancer, and some next scientist was saying that one unit of alcohol a day prolongs life.

 

Very lame to bring scientists into it.

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On 08/02/2016 at 1:28 PM, CdnSikhGirl said:

 Not sure if it is authentic either, but it wouldn't make sense for a third party who was not follower of the Gurus and was just an onlooker would mention specifically that women were given Amrit along with the men on that first day.

 

Why  not ? There was never any doubt about female inclusion and participation in Sikh religious praxis so why would the writer including both both men and women be of any significance ot indeed out of place?

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On 09/02/2016 at 2:51 AM, CdnSikhGirl said:

There are differences even in the RMs you referenced. How can they all be directly from the tenth master? If so there would be no differences!

 

You are in the navy yes? Do all the people who form the naval defence forces perform exactly  the same duties as you? I mean come on! There are so many different aspects of forming a defence force from front line fighters, to medics to cooks, to admin and so on. Do all of the people know all of these duties or do they specialise in one particular area? Or are there differences?

I'[m sure you get the point I'm making,

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30 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:

 

You are in the navy yes? Do all the people who form the naval defence forces perform exactly  the same duties as you? I mean come on! There are so many different aspects of forming a defence force from front line fighters, to medics to cooks, to admin and so on. Do all of the people know all of these duties or do they specialise in one particular area? Or are there differences?

I'[m sure you get the point I'm making,

So you in your OWN words, just justified the existence of DIFFERING REHET MARYADAS for different groups!  Those of us who are not Nihang or DDT, follow Sikh Rehet Maryada! AKJ follow their own (which is basically SRM with a few tweaks). I don't care if people want to follow a specific sect themselves... but when they make statements that something is 'against Gurmat' then please all I ask is to specify that it's according to THAT SECTs RM that you basing this on, and at least acknowledge that there are others with differing views.  And I will do the same from now on... can you agree???

You just said that differences in RMs exist for different groups. Right! So, when you say that women can not be in Panj Pyaras, then specify that it's THOSE sects who that rule applies to, and NOT others, who follow a different RM. That's all I ask! Same with menstruation... if a Bibi wants to belong to DDT, then she obviously has to follow DDTs RM which says she can't do seva. But don't try to say it's a rule for ALL Sikhs as SRM does not specify this at all.  Please don't make this an SRM slamming thread. As you know that MANY MANY Sikhs are subject to it. Just please make distinctions when you say something is anti-gurmat specify which RM you are referring to. And we can all live in peace!

 

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57 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:

 

Now here is a big test for you. The Samprdayes are not sects. They are traditions in the Sikh Panth. btw can you confirm whether you understand this?

And how exactly is AKJ not a tradition? I think they have been around long enough to be given that classification!

Actually it's you who has been vilifying the Taksal regularly since you have been here, btw. Without reason. Now you want to acknowledge the Taksal maryada?

I never villified anyone. I said I disagree with some things in their RM which seem to be a bit biased against women. I acknowledge Taksal Maryada must be follow by Taksalis. I also acknowledge that Sikh Rehet Maryada is the one I was given, and is the one accepted by Akal Takht - and majority of panth follow. Where I have issue are those who try to push DDTs RM on everyone else and put down SRM.

Actually I said the Samprdayes are not sects. AKj is a sect/jatha. Sri Akal Takht Sahib is maryada from a jatha (singh sabha). These are not Samprdayes and cannot compete with the samprdayes. Anyone who follows a sect will not have the approval of any act that contravenes the maryada of the Sampardayes inc women in the Panj Pyaeru and menstruation btw.

Except that Akal Takht IS the seat of Sikh authority is it not?? And it was not a jatha who drafted it. It was drafted over a decade and hundreds of Sikhs from differeing backgrounds, taking into consideration ALL historical rehetnamas and Gurbani. Meaning it was panthic decision. Whether you agree that there were enough representation of some of the sampardas or not doesn't make it any less so. So you can't say it was one Jatha that wrote it. 

And fine... those groups can do what they want... I am not looking for approval from DDT or Nihangs. Though I do not agree with their view of women, which yes I think is misogynistic / chauvenistic.  As long as I have AKJ / panthic rehet maryada and know that majority of Gurdwaras worldwide don't discriminate against women. If women want to belong to a group that gives them less rights, then that's their own choice. But those 'sampardas' should also acknowledge that there are a good majority of Sikhs who do not agree with their views.

 

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6 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

Women are way more dirtier than men ...everyone knows why. I dont want to write here to stink everyone noses . All  real married men know. I think the hint is enough haha

You are doing what she has been doing. Judging whole gender based on personal beliefs and couple incidents. Not gonna argue whether women are dirty or not, if you perceive them to be dirty chances are you will manifest it . Dirty word itself is pretty insulting no matter in what context you talk about it. Men or women, no one is dirty, it's just our mind. Once we clean them up then this word dirty will be gone from dictionary.

All the people above, listen to this and you will find peace. 

 

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11 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

 

 

I don't need to tell any educated Sikh women anything. btw i don't care what Gurpreet Kaur is, it makes no difference to me.

 

Gurpreet kaur is a very lost person who is having a hard time understanding why her name was brought up . Since she's too lazy to read all those long posts and would rather spend time listening to kirtan or watching funny videos but still typing this for no reason. Btw, watch this, it's funny. Lol

 

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2 hours ago, GurpreetKaur said:

You are doing what she has been doing. Judging whole gender based on personal beliefs and couple incidents. Not gonna argue whether women are dirty or not, if you perceive them to be dirty chances are you will manifest it . Dirty word itself is pretty insulting no matter in what context you talk about it. Men or women, no one is dirty, it's just our mind. Once we clean them up then this word dirty will be gone from dictionary.

All the people above, listen to this and you will find peac

 

Sister.  This was a satire to satkirin

i was on purpose doing what she was doing... She said beards contains feces and bacteria and is dirtier than menstruation

hence my response 

and and she said u r an engineer to which chatanga bhaji said he dun care.

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