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On 11/19/2017 at 1:53 PM, chatanga1 said:

The translation should read as "The Raja had many years of happiness with the Apsara."

Makes sense. If one says in Punjabi "is bande ne bahot ras bhoge". It doesn't have to be sexual pleasures. It could refer to other pleasures like living in a big modern house, travelling places, driving luxurious cars, eating a variety of foods, etc.

 

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1 hour ago, paapiman said:

According to Niddar, the name of the wise minister is Tretiya. Daas has no idea on how he got that. 

 

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Please read the preface and introduction.

The answer you are looking for is in there.Please do not skip the preface or introduction and go straight to the charitters. 

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1 hour ago, paapiman said:

According to Niddar, the name of the wise minister is Tretiya. Daas has no idea on how he got that. 

 

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"This is particularly the case with one of the chief characters of the tales, the minister who is relating them; his name Tretiya only appears once in charitter 54 in verse two189."

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16 hours ago, Crystal said:

"This is particularly the case with one of the chief characters of the tales, the minister who is relating them; his name Tretiya only appears once in charitter 54 in verse two189."

Excellent stuff.

@amardeep - Remember, you mentioned that some things might come up later in the text. This is a perfect example of it. It is also possible that once we read the further Charitars, we might be in a position to deeply analysis the previous ones. This Gurbani is amazing.

 

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My review of nidar singhs book

 

Pakhyaan charitter was written by Guru Gobind Singh, it is very controversial in Sikh groups. Many revisionist Sikhs/Sikhs of cult of personalities like to refute the association of "Pakhyaan Charitter" with Guru Gobind Singh due to some of explicit tales...this is very pathetic! as sikhi & the truth should not fall down to your personal ideal perception of what it sikhi should be... 
Regarding the book: 
the book gives background information regarding who Nidar Singh Nihang is, what he represents IE the 9th  Gurdev(teacher) of the Baba Darbara Singh Shastar vidiya akhara.

The preface and introduction is filled with vast amounts of wisdom. It gives a lot of background information that the reader would not usually know. The footnotes were amazing, you must read the footnote along with the charitter to fully understand, as there may be words you might not be familiar with. 


 Nidar Singh gives detail about Dasam Granth. He also mentions all past attempts at translating this text and the names of authors & year they published their works. However it must be noted all past attempts had failures, for example 
Pritpal Singh's 2002 translation. Pritpal Singh did not believe Pakhyaan Charitter was written by guru gobind singhji, so in this manner, pritpal Singh did not do justice to the translation as his own bias came into play & made his work flawed.

Nidar Singh also mentions key points regarding the stories, how names and details appear only at the end, or during the middle of the story. He writes the names of characters at the beginning of each charitter and makes it much easier to read/ understand. 

The book covers all aspects of sikhi, it's history, the way Sikhs of those times perceived themselves, philosophy, spirituality and much more. It would be a tragic loss if readers did not take up the opportunity to read the charitters in their true context and understand the true reason why the 10th guru penned this work.
 
The charitters are very well written, I found it very addictive, wanting to read on and on! 
There are many beautiful images, I think one image for every charitter, the paintings are of very high quality. Attention to detail & painted in the style/clothing of the times it was first penned. 

Nidar Singh Nihang gives great analysis into the charitters and makes some very crucial valid points. After reading the first volume I am somewhat puzzled...the charitters have come to life in my mind and in the reality of the times we live in "kaljug", with each story I can honestly say this kind of deception/deceptive tactics exist in 2018, I will argue even more than when it was written. Only because technology has evolved and we have a lot more ways to hide things we dont want others finding out. I am certain many of us can relate to these charitters. 


Nidar Singh Nihang should be commended for this first volume. It is truly ground-breaking work. It is very obvious a lot of time &  research went into this. 

Lastly, I will share a relevant extract . "For some living a lie is a better option than facing life crushing truth. In fact, most people, especially the overtly religious, prefer to live a life of self-delusion."

 

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On 18/01/2018 at 1:21 PM, Crystal said:

There are many beautiful images, I think one image for every charitter, the paintings are of very high quality.

How do these images relate to the charitars themselves?

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