Popular Post sarabatam Posted February 2, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just wanted to start this thread on very estoeric vak from japji sahib- ~ Pancha ka Gur EK Dhyaan ~ What you guys think it means? I'll just share one of the arths i read in japji sahib teeka- Its a updesh by Satguru nanak dev ji to Pancha (five elements/pran) of body/ breath/ mind to make it one pointedness-dhyaan on One internal Guru- Chaitan saroop - Pure awareness/consciouness. I was just reading japji sahib translation by sant gyani gurbachan singh bhindranwale, it blew my mind, its very much internal-antriv. I will post it as pdf shortly. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabatam Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Here is the pdf document of panch parvan panch pardhan pauri. Enjoy Panch Parvan Panch Pardhan.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 The meaning I have heard is that when the panj shabad become pargat they eventually resonante so fast that they lead to One sound called Naam, the sound of Ongkar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucky Posted February 15, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 2/1/2018 at 4:41 PM, sarabatam said: Just wanted to start this thread on very estoeric vak from japji sahib- ~ Pancha ka Guru EK Dhyaan ~ What you guys think it means? I'll just share one of the arths i read in japji sahib teeka- Its a updesh by Satguru nanak dev ji to Pancha (five elements/pran) of body/ breath/ mind to make it one pointedness-dhyaan on One internal Guru- Chaitan saroop - Pure awareness/consciouness. Very esoteric as you stated and there are a lot of interpretations. The difference with these few verses in japji i(deeper levels) is that Guruji isn't describing this earthly plane we live in. The "Manniye" tuks that precede the Panch parvaan, are about the dedicated faithful. First of all, one needs to understand who the "Manniyo" are and what it takes to be a "Manniya". The pauris in japji sahib have to be studied carefully to appreciate the continuous flow. The messages are ALL there. As with everything else, all the answers can be found in gurbani itself as one starts doing the practice of what bani talks about. Topic is huge with lots of branches and intertwines with other areas, and as @sat1176 quoted below, it can be cross referenced with Panj Shabad to be understood. AS with most of my posts, the below is my understanding and may be completely different to other well read scholars. It's my personal interpretations as per gurbani and expereince. Feel free to question or if someone sees contradictions anywhere. All errors are mine. Very briefly, Panj shabad (5 shabads), are 5 anhad shabads that you encounter when the door of Nijh Ghar is opened in Sunn Samadh. As per anand sahib “vaajay panch shabad tith ghar subhagay “ In yoga science, these 5 shabads are experienced when the upper end of the sukhmani nadi fully activates and glows. This top end of the sukhmani finishes with 5 large energy endings(channels). Each corresponds to one of the shabads and they merge to become the one single Ek shabad. Looking at the Mannai tuks.........Note that they follow from Gaviyeh(sing) and Sunniyeh(listen) lines.. The seeers that have gaviyeh and suniyeh (listened) will eventually get that special "mann rakhiyeh" connection. This connection is Naam and it is heard.. ਮੰਨੈ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਮਨਿ ਬੁਧਿ ॥ Mannai suraṯ hovai man buḏẖ The faithful have intuitive awareness and intelligence. ਮੰਨੈ ਸਗਲ ਭਵਣ ਕੀ ਸੁਧਿ ॥ Mannai sagal bẖavaṇ kī suḏẖ. The faithful know about all worlds and realms. (They learn of these via many intuitive gyaan and experiences) ਮੰਨੈ ਮੁਹਿ ਚੋਟਾ ਨਾ ਖਾਇ ॥ Mannai muhi cẖotā nā kẖā▫e. The faithful shall never be struck across the face. (They are jagat and awake. Therefore, will not have to endure the jamdoots whacking them around the head to wake them at death) ਮੰਨੈ ਜਮ ਕੈ ਸਾਥਿ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ Mannai jam kai sāth na jā▫e. The faithful do not have to go with the Messenger of Death. (The jams will not come anywhere near them, and they will know of this prior to death) ਐਸਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ Aisā nām niranjan ho▫e. Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord. ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮੰਨਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਨਿ ਕੋਇ ॥੧੩॥ Je ko man jāṇai man ko▫e. ||13|| Only one who has faith comes to know such a state of mind. ||13|| (Only one's who have faith and have done ਜਿਨੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ਗਏ ਮਸਕਤਿ ਘਾਲਿ ) ਮੰਨੈ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਠਾਕ ਨ ਪਾਇ ॥ Mannai mārag ṯẖāk na pā▫e. The path of the faithful shall never be blocked. (once they start walking on the naam marag, they will always be going towards guru's darbar. God will always be changing the play around the gurmukh and providing pretection, no matter what the worldly battles.. ਤਾਤੀ ਵਾਉ ਨ ਲਗਈ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਸਰਣਾਈ ॥ Ŧāṯī vā▫o na lag▫ī pārbarahm sarṇā▫ī. The hot wind does not even touch one who is under the Protection of the Supreme Lord God. ਮੰਨੈ ਪਤਿ ਸਿਉ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਜਾਇ ॥ Mannai paṯ si▫o pargat jā▫e. The faithful shall depart with honor and fame. (When they die on this earth plane, they depart with honour. The wandering souls they meet on the way, all praise and honour the mannai who have naam) ਮੰਨੈ ਮਗੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਪੰਥੁ ॥ Mannai mag na cẖalai panth. The faithful do not follow empty religious rituals. ਮੰਨੈ ਧਰਮ ਸੇਤੀ ਸਨਬੰਧੁ ॥ Mannai ḏẖaram seṯī san▫banḏẖ. The faithful are firmly bound to the Dharma. ਐਸਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ Aisā nām niranjan ho▫e. Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord. ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮੰਨਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਨਿ ਕੋਇ ॥੧੪॥ Je ko man jāṇai man ko▫e. ||14|| Only one who has faith comes to know such a state of mind. ||14|| ਮੰਨੈ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਮੋਖੁ ਦੁਆਰੁ ॥ Mannai pāvahi mokẖ ḏu▫ār. The faithful find the Door of Liberation. (the duar to the darbar, since they get to sehaj dunn) ਮੰਨੈ ਪਰਵਾਰੈ ਸਾਧਾਰੁ ॥ Mannai parvārai sāḏẖār. The faithful uplift and redeem their family and relations. (families and ancestors in the heavens -whom are out of lakh chaurasi are carried across the 2nd bhavsagar) ਮੰਨੈ ਤਰੈ ਤਾਰੇ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਿਖ ॥ Mannai ṯarai ṯāre gur sikẖ. The faithful are saved, and carried across with the Sikhs of the Guru. (cross the 2nd bhavsagar in higher realms) ਮੰਨੈ ਨਾਨਕ ਭਵਹਿ ਨ ਭਿਖ ॥ Mannai Nānak bẖavahi na bẖikẖ. The faithful, O Nanak, do not wander around begging. (no need for begging to be saved, or to save) ਐਸਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ Aisā nām niranjan ho▫e. Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord. ਜੇ ਕੋ ਮੰਨਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਨਿ ਕੋਇ ॥੧੫॥ Je ko man jāṇai man ko▫e. ||15|| Only one who has faith comes to know such a state of mind. ||15|| The above lines tell me about who the faithful(mannai) are and what happens as they enter the darbar of God(court) after their death. Human death is when saas account is complete. These deeds and accounts are read in the presence of Dharamraj, with chitr and gupt's reports. So, who are the mannai and what have they attained? They are the one's who have worked and attained Naam. Naam is pargat and they have crossed over the 2nd bhavsagar. (mannai taray tarai gur sikh). In yoga science this is the trikuti above larynx.(beneath pineal gland)... It is also last part of sunn mandal,....also bathing in amritsar (pool of amrit that surrounds Hari's mandar inside us)., and many other nishanees and pointers are in gurbani. Most importantly, it is the one's that have attained the wealth of Naam, that is accounted per breaths spent. Gurbani says.... ਜਿਨੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ਗਏ ਮਸਕਤਿ ਘਾਲਿ ॥ Jinī nām ḏẖi▫ā▫i▫ā ga▫e maskaṯ gẖāl. Those who have meditated on the Naam, the Name of the Lord, and departed after having worked by the sweat of their brows - ਨਾਨਕ ਤੇ ਮੁਖ ਉਜਲੇ ਕੇਤੀ ਛੁਟੀ ਨਾਲਿ ॥੧॥ Nānak ṯe mukẖ ujle keṯī cẖẖutī nāl. ||1|| O Nanak, their faces are radiant in the Court of the Lord, and many are saved along with them! ||1|| These are the "mannai" Panch Parvaan are the ones who have been chosen and are already accepted. After human death, when their saas has all been spent, they are considered as previously approved. Why is this? Why have they already got a pre-approved, pre-paid, direct entry ticket? What makes them chosen? Because they have already gotten into the darbar of waheguru when alive. Nirankar opened the door into Nijh mahal and revealed his "niranjan" self. He sat them on his lap and hugged them. They are the one's who had waheguru's darshan in his very own abode. Hence, they were and are JIVAN MUKHT. Jivan mukht means that they had pre-approved access into Nirankaars darbar. Whilst spending their saas in hukam of physical life, they learned to come and go at will. Before I go into the Panch Parvaan tuks. I want to just go over the above mentioned about Panj Shabad, and it's cross reference. Panch parvaan are also the ones that have previously activated the 5 shabads, ..killed the 5 dhoots and entered Satguru's abode. (Anand paya meri myeh, satgur mein payia) ਵਾਜੇ ਪੰਚ ਸਬਦ ਤਿਤ ਘਰਿ ਸਭਾਗੈ ॥ vaajay panch sabad tit ghar sabhaagai. The Panch Shabad, the five primal sounds, vibrate in that blessed house. ਘਰਿ ਸਭਾਗੈ ਸਬਦ ਵਾਜੇ ਕਲਾ ਜਿਤ ਘਰਿ ਧਾਰੀਆ ॥ ghar sabhaagai sabad vaajay kalaa jit ghar Dhaaree-aa. In that blessed house, the Shabad vibrates; He infuses His almighty power into it. ਪੰਚ ਦੂਤ ਤਧ ਵਸਿ ਕੀਤੇ ਕਾਲ ਕੰਟਕ ਮਾਰਿਆ ॥ panch doot tuDh vas keetay kaal kantak maari-aa. Through You, we subdue the five demons of desire, and slay Death, the torturer. Noting that the japji panch parvaan lines follow the mannai tuks, and are......... ਪੰਚ ਪਰਵਾਣ ਪੰਚ ਪਰਧਾਨੁ ॥ Pancẖ parvāṇ pancẖ parḏẖān. The chosen ones, the self-elect, are accepted and approved. (already jivan mukht and seen Nirankar in sehaj samadhi) ਪੰਚੇ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਦਰਗਹਿ ਮਾਨੁ ॥ Pancẖe pāvahi ḏargahi mān. The chosen ones are honored in the Court of the Lord. (They are dressed, applauded and welcomed in the darbar by all the angels, devi devte's outside and at the darbar) ਪੰਚੇ ਸੋਹਹਿ ਦਰਿ ਰਾਜਾਨੁ ॥ Pancẖe sohahi ḏar rājān. The chosen ones look beautiful in the courts of kings. They are dressed in robes and all the the other heavenly beauties know of these panch when they are about to arrive. Even Dhararm raj and the jamms want the darshan of these enlightened souls.. gurbani says... ਜਨ ਕਾ ਦਰਸੁ ਬਾਂਛੈ ਦਿਨ ਰਾਤੀ ਹੋਇ ਪੁਨੀਤ ਧਰਮ ਰਾਇ ਜਾਮ ॥੧॥ Jan kā ḏaras bāʼncẖẖai ḏin rāṯī ho▫e punīṯ ḏẖaram rā▫e jām. ||1|| Even the Righteous Judge of Dharma and the Messenger of Death yearn, day and night, to be sanctified by the Blessed Vision of the Lord's humble servant. ||1|| There are many references in gurbani that quote the "Jan "(ਜਨ), in reference to the jivan mukht panch parvaan on their way to Nirankar. Many of these shabads speak about the darshan(glimpse) that spirits seek as they ascend to Waheguru's darbar. ਪੰਚਾ ਕਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਏਕੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ॥ Pancẖā kā gur ek ḏẖi▫ān. The chosen ones meditate single-mindedly on the Guru. (only nirankar is in their mind-focus and nirankar is in them. They will dissolve permanently and be true ik-mikh with nirankar) Waheguru 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabatam Posted February 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Awesome vichar lucky veer, thanks so much for your post above, panch means choosen one and panch can also mean- five, If we go by five interpretation, five could mean so many things both externally such as panj takthat, panj banis, panj pyares (and their attributes-dya, dharam, himmat, mokham, sahib) dhyaan on internal and external guru and internally such as - panj tat, parpanch, panj birthiya, panj kosh, panj karam indree, gyan indree, panj pran, heck panj chors even--- all pointing - pancha ka gur ek dhyaan- one pointedness-dhyaan to its source- One internal Guru- Chaitan saroop - Pure awareness/consciousness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabatam Posted April 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 Here is another interesting snippet from japji sahib teeka by sant gyani gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale of pancha ka ek guru ek dhyan on different types of parman. Correct me if i am wrong i think parman means example and in the screenshot below is shown shabad parman (example from gurbani such as mahavak /mantar etc) and partakth parman (self evident, self experiential parman are the highest). I highlighted the important ones below 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harsharan000 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 On 2/2/2018 at 12:41 AM, sarabatam said: Just wanted to start this thread on very estoeric vak from japji sahib- ~ Pancha ka Gur EK Dhyaan ~ What you guys think it means? I'll just share one of the arths i read in japji sahib teeka- In my humble opinion, I think it means, that the mystery/depth/ updesh of the 5 Shabads is revealed by the Guru, and He tells us to one pointedly meditate on them. SSA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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