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Brother Bhoolea Jee, indeed you have asked a beautiful and a quite a deep question. One thing is clear, whatsoever name we can recite, read or write, can be traced in time and history, means it started at some point. And all the divine names, are descriptive attibutes/qualties/ of the Divine. And as such, these are many, like Ram, Rahim, Khuda, God, Govind, Hari, Satnam, Bhagwant, Akal Purukh, Shabad, Nam, Dhur kee Bani, Sachee Bani, Amrit Bani, Akhand Keertan, and so on ..... WAH E GURU , is also a descriptive name of that ultimate Truth, where Wah stands for that wonderous being, who is Guru, the Aad Guru, Shabad or Nam, the creative force of all that exists seen or unseen. But definetely, that Power Waheguru is not the word itself, for if it was so, how could a simple word which can be written or read, create all the limitless and countless creations upon creations .... People tend to mistake Nam, for literally name. Bhagat Kabir Jee in this respect says in the Bani: ਬਾਵਨ ਅਛਰ ਲੋਕ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਸਭੁ ਕਛੁ ਇਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥ Baavan Ashhar Lok Thrai Sabh Kashh Ein Hee Maahi || Through these fifty-two letters, the three worlds and all things are described. ਏ ਅਖਰ ਖਿਰਿ ਜਾਹਿਗੇ ਓਇ ਅਖਰ ਇਨ ਮਹਿ ਨਾਹਿ ॥੧॥ Eae Akhar Khir Jaahigae Oue Akhar Ein Mehi Naahi ||1|| These letters shall perish; they cannot describe the Imperishable Lord. ||1|| ਜਹਾ ਬੋਲ ਤਹ ਅਛਰ ਆਵਾ ॥ Jehaa Bol Theh Ashhar Aavaa || Wherever there is speech, there are letters. ਜਹ ਅਬੋਲ ਤਹ ਮਨੁ ਨ ਰਹਾਵਾ ॥ Jeh Abol Theh Man N Rehaavaa || Where there is no speech, there, the mind rests on nothing. In another Ang, he again says: ਬਾਵਨ ਅਖਰ ਜੋਰੇ ਆਨਿ ॥ Baavan Akhar Jorae Aan || The fifty-two letters have been joined together. ਸਕਿਆ ਨ ਅਖਰੁ ਏਕੁ ਪਛਾਨਿ ॥ Sakiaa N Akhar Eaek Pashhaan || But people cannot recognize the One Word of God. ਸਤ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਬੀਰਾ ਕਹੈ ॥ Sath Kaa Sabadh Kabeeraa Kehai || Kabeer speaks the Shabad, the Word of Truth. ਪੰਡਿਤ ਹੋਇ ਸੁ ਅਨਭੈ ਰਹੈ ॥ Panddith Hoe S Anabhai Rehai || One who is a Pandit, a religious scholar, must remain fearless. ਪੰਡਿਤ ਲੋਗਹ ਕਉ ਬਿਉਹਾਰ ॥ Panddith Logeh Ko Biouhaar || It is the business of the scholarly person to join letters. ਗਿਆਨਵੰਤ ਕਉ ਤਤੁ ਬੀਚਾਰ ॥ Giaanavanth Ko Thath Beechaar || The spiritual person contemplates the essence of reality. And as First Patshahee says right from the begining: Ik Oankar, Satnam. This means, there is only One creator, which is the Nam and this Nam is Truth, means it never changes in its essence, and exists beyond the parameteres of time and space, which means, it has existed then when there was no time. This Naam, is not something physical, nor astral, neither causal, but a highest level of Consciousness, which is Parbrahm, which means that Truth, which is beyond Brahm/Maya, thus eternal and Infinite. The Bani says: Aapeenay aap sajeeo, apeenay racheeo Nao. This Nao/Nam, is the true nature or form of that ultimate Truth. And that very Truth at our human level, came as Guru Sahiban, Gurmukh Jan, or Bhagat Jan of the highest level, such as those mentioned in Gurbani, in order to reveal itself in our human understandable language, as seen in the following verse: ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਆਪਿ ॥ Gur Paarabreham Paramaesar Aap || The Guru is the Supreme Lord God; He Himself is the Transcendent Lord For if was not so, nobody can ever imagine even a tiny reality of it, we are already agyanis, lost in our own huge moorakhta, our reality is seen in the following verse: ਤੀਰਥਿ ਭਰਮੈ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਛੂਟਸਿ ਪੜਿਆ ਬਾਦੁ ਬਿਬਾਦੁ ਭਇਆ ॥ Theerathh Bharamai Rog N Shhoottas Parriaa Baadh Bibaadh Bhaeiaa || Wandering around at sacred shrines of pilgrimage, the mortal is not cured of his disease. Reading scripture, he gets involved in useless arguments. And they told us also, nobody can reach Him, without boarding the vessel of Nam. Now the question is how to get hold of that Nam? Where is that Nam? The answers to such questions are found within the Bani: ਨਾਮੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ਸਾਧ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਲ ॥ Naam Dhrirraaeiaa Saadhh Kirapaal || By the Kind Mercy of the Holy Saints, the Naam has been implanted within me. Once that Name has been blessed on us, what are we supposed to do ? Well, the Bani says: Jin Har japeeya, se Har hoeeya. Bani could never ever be so clear. The Bani says: do the jaap of that Nam alone , and you shall merge and become one with that Shabad/Nam. At other place, the Bani says: Jap mun Satnam, sadaa Satnam In reality, whatever "word" or "name" is given to us by Guru Sahiban, has their power in it, to cleanse us and reunite us with our origin; it could be anything, as seen in the folloowing verse: Nanak das mukh se jho bholay , eehaa uhaa Sach hovay So if Guru Sahiban (the embodiment of the highest Truth) say repeat or meditate on Waheguru or Satnam for example, that is most sacred mantra valid for us, for it is uttered by them, and bestowed as a blessing upon us. By meditating and focusing alone on Nam as instructed by Guru Jee, we are able to withdraw our soul consciousness within ourselves to the higher spiritual realms, and gradually also wipe away all our total karmas / sanskaras, thus become that much pure/pavitar, to board on the jahaaz of Nam, thus reach our Nijh Ghar in Sach Khand, in the lap of Satnam. All wadeeayee and mahima is of Guru and Gobind, the 2 aspects of the same Truth. SSA.

ANHAD/ANHAT BANI or SHABD : A sound that is unending and knows no limits. Also it could be described as an Audible life current originating from the Divine Will, endlessly carrying on the work of creating and sustaining the universe; interchangeably used with Anhat meaning 'Unstruck', as it it automatic and not instrumental. It also means, sound not produced by physical concussion; the mystic melody or music believed to be heard by the Yogis (persons of high spiritual attainment) in a state of ecstasy or super conciousness, as also those who engage themselves in Nam Bhakti. In Gurbani it is used as a symbolical expression for experience of higher truths, or inner music which gives a feeling of divine bliss. This is due primarily to Nam Simran (meditation) blessed by the grace of the Guru. Guru Nanak says. "By following the steps or the Guru, practising His way of life, the flow of soundless music is felt within". (Adi Granth, ang. 922). *Reference _ Encyclopedia of Sikh religion and culture , R.C .Dogra and Dr G S M 1995 SSA

1) If Guru Jee gave me darshan, I would hug Him so tight, that I will make Him enter my heart, and never ever let Him go. . DARSHAN DEKH JEEVA GUR TERA POORAN KARAM HOVAY PRABH MERA. 2) If He gave me "darshan", that would mean, He is revealing Himself to me by His grace and by His own will. Otherwise, it would not be called darshan, for that would be called "seeing". Thus there is definetely quite a big difference in seeing and being blessed with darshan. SSA

Some questions : What has a pavitar forum to do with this thread or topic? I have not seen apavitarta in any answers by the members above. May I ask you, what apavitarta have you noticed? Then being brief or not is relative and individual perspective to answer. It all depends on how complete one may answer. This does not mean, volumes of pages. As long as one is not out of context and has an objective reply, it matters not much, if it is in one short line or 10 or 15... Respect is important, sharing relevant information on the matter, with scientific evidences, or realistics, by proffesionals, it does no harm to anybody. On the other hand, what, if one has wrong or incomplete experiences, and one may induce someone in moving into the wrong direction, though unconsciously ? Of what use is that pavitarta? In which way is that answer helpful? This is an open and respectful free forum, with many different topics, in which each one can contribute with questions or answers to the best of one's ability, without insulting, or belittleling anyone. This is what forums are about. Plus, not always are personal experiences shared as answers. Many a times, links are copied and pasted by posters of all levels, with videos going from some minutes to an hour and above, as answers. So, you see, it is not always personal expierences, but information which maybe helpful. I think, we have to arise from being so petty, and being if not much, at least just a bit open minded, this may solve many of the so created problems. One should not try to impose anything on anyone, that is being silly. One should arise above personal differences, for one may like some posters / members, or not like them for whatever reason, the only thing that should prevail, is being objective, sticking to the topic and respectful towards all. Otherwise, one is being negative. And this should be the discipline, to not fall into negativity. It says very little of someone trying to judge and say to someone : do not say / do, this or that .... Why so much limitedness, or being manipulative ? SSA.

Brother Singh1213, Congrats. Actually what you have written above, is all what Gurbani is about, to create and develope love within us for the most beloved, Waheguru Akal Purukh. Then also it helps us to follow Gurmat implicitly, by understanding what it says, that also for the unique purpose of merging in Him, by loving Him with all our mind and heart. Stay blessed. SSA

Guest NoFap, just my 2 cents. In order to listen the sounds within, only kirpa, concentration, and purity are required. Just as when we go in a cinema theatre, it does not matter what clothes or colors of those clothes we wear, for the dialogues/sounds and the visualization of the movie, is done with our "attention" of our eyes and ears. In a similar way, the soul has 2 faculties, to see and to listen, which can be opened with His simran, and concentration/meditation. In that aspect, Third Patshahee tells us in the Bani: Nam jiskay man vaseeya, vajeh Sabad ganere. This means, when we have enshrined the Nam within our heart/mind, we start hearing the celestial melodies of the Shabad, Bani, Anhad Nad, within us, that too only with His kirpa, if only we please Him. man cn do nothing by himself, unless He Himself makes us do it. Stay blessed. SSA.

Yes that is the corresponding to the shabad of Second Patshahee. And going with something related to it, feel like sharing the following points: The thing is we are so much attached to the body and its organs, that we think when we shall leave from here, we shall somehow be there within with a similar body and its features, if not the same, in terms of color, size and gender. Maybe that is true to an extent when we are still in the lower spiritual realms, but as we proceed higher and higher beyond the creation of Brahm, then even the astral and causal bodies are left far behind, then only the pure soul free from any bonds soars high and high towards Sach Khand. Have we ever thought, if Akal Purukh is a immense, infinite, subtle non physical entity, and which is all powerful (samrath) though without any arms and hands, omnipresent (sarvavyapak) without any body nor legs to move, omniscient (Guru), without any head or brains and yet He has made out of nothing, wonderful creations upon creations. He sees everything from micocospic to macrocosmic sizes, forms, colors, etc, yet without any eyes, He listens to our prayers and pledges, yet withou ears... If all that is possible with Him, and that is what our state going to be, why so much hatred, ahankar, agaynta, just because of color, caste, creed, due to the perishable body? What for? When nothing of that will go with us, neither will count THERE. Then, why so much discrimination? The path of Gurmat, is solely for the spiritual developement and uplift of the non physical entity called soul or jeev atma, that is it. This too, with non physical tools, such as love, devotion, morality, purity, faith, kirpa, Gurparsad ...... So, why limit ourselves and kill or cut each others throats, just for the blind word of religion ? As per Gurbani, the only true religion, is His jaap, for its is this very practice only, which will make possible our union with Him, that too, to ultimately merge, thus burn away any petty notion of our individual identities. All souls, are rays with same light and warmth, which have emerged from Him, the One Origin of all and everything. It is the each and every single ray(soul), which has to merge in their Origin/Sun, same in nature, not the bodies. There in Sach Khand, only ONE Waheguru exists. He is like the huge Ocean, in which every river which flows into it, becomes the Ocean. Thus the river loses its limited and petty identity, in order to gain something, such as to become something Whole. There is no such variety of people of any past, even all Bhagat Jan, Gurmukhs, Guru Sahiban who blessed us with their presence, after going from here, reached and became one with Waheguru in Sach Khand. If anybody thinks , that when reaching there, I will see so and so entities, then sorry to say, we have not understood spirituallity nor Gurmat, in spite of being so much clear our beloved Guru Sahiban throughout the Bani. SSA.

Brother, that much I can tell you, parkash and shabad can never harm anyone, on the contrary only benefits are received. So maybe, you need to focus more on simran, and enjoy whatsoever the Divine goes on marvelling and revealing you. Have an attitude of being thankful at all times to that Supreme Divine Being, and trust it as a baby child to its mother. Simran is a purifier technique/process by itself. The more we engage in it, the more purer we become, and the more we shed away our negativity, although it may not be perceived by us . Stay blessed. SSA.

Just sharing some info found related to the questions placed above by Guest Gupt Jee: THE COMMON MISCONCEPTION ABOUT MEDITATION IS THAT IT IS PRIMARILY A STRESS-RELIEF TOOL. That is how it has been marketed in the past. In my opinion, meditation is a life-long practice of un-smudging yourself to see who you truly are. To see your authentic self, without the myriad masks that we normally wear. MEDITATION HELPS US REALIZE THE TRUTH, THE ULTIMATE TRUTH ABOUT OURSELVES. When we begin the process of un-smudging the layers, a lot of emotional distress will be revealed. Either it is grief at all of those moments you were unaware of yourself, or sadness at lost time, or joy at the discovery of your true self. A lot of emotions will come up when you first start meditating. Like any other detox, this mental detox of meditation will reveal and release a lot of toxins. In order to let go of your past, the past must come up in the form of emotions. Let the emotions come up and let them go. Release them. Do not hold on to them. They are of no use to you anymore. Cry if you want to. Laugh out loud if need be. Whatever emotion you are feeling, feel it intensely, lean into it, and then let it all go. TEARS ARE A GREAT HEALER - A GOOD CRY CAN HELP YOU RELEASE SO MUCH NEGATIVITY AND TOXICITY. ALONG WITH MEDITATION, A GOOD CRY CAN CLEANSE YOUR SOUL FROM THE INSIDE OUT. WE ALL COULD DO WITH ONE OF THESE DEEP CLEANSES. Don't be afraid of crying during or after meditation. You are not going crazy. It is a necessary step in the process of letting go of your past selves. They don't serve you anymore. In order to grow, and move upward to your higher self, the past selves must be discarded. Crying will help you do so. TIPS FOR BEGINNER MEDITATORS 1. Take some time after any meditation session to be on your own. This time is necessary for you to integrate the learnings and growth that a meditation practice entails. In addition, being alone will give you permission to let go of emotions and cry if necessary. 2. Do not be afraid to cry. Emotions are a natural part of who we are. Do not be ashamed of it. Crying is one of the most healing practices. It helps us let go of so much. I try to get a good cry in at least once a month. 3. If you need to talk to someone after you cry, please do so with someone you trust. You are in an extremely vulnerable position after a meditation cry session and you need to be around people who will take care of you. Author: Bhoom Shika.

These very people should be kicked out. Too much of challenging, swearing, provoking, being disrespectful, threatning, insulting, bad mouthing ..... Enough of being lenient with them.

Guru Arjan Dev (1563-1606) Guru Arjan was born in Goindwal, a small town in Amritsar district, on April 15, 1563. He was the youngest son of Guru Ram Das and Bibi Bhani. As a child, one day he found his way to the bed of Guru Amar Das who was then resting. His mother ran to fetch the child before he could disturb the Guru. But he had already awakened the Guru, who revealed, "Let him come to me; 'yeh mera dohita bani ka bohita howega'- this grandson of mine shall be a ship to take mankind across the ocean of the world." Guru Arjan was married to Ganga, daughter of Krishen Chand, a resident of Meo village near Phillor in Jullundhur district. The marriage took place in 1589 when he was about 26 years old. Guru Ram Das began excavation of two tanks named Santokhsar and Amritsar and started the foundation of the city of Ramdaspur. After his father, Guru Arjan applied himself to the task of completing the tanks and extending the city. It was his practice to go every day and superintend the work.

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Brother Harmanpreet, the biggest mistake which one inflicts on oneself, is that having had a human life to be able to reunite with Him, Waheguru Akal Purukh, by washing all our sins with the Amrit Bani within us, then too we do nothing in that diection. Thus we are condemning ourselves. So, if we do not wash our sins, by doing that what as Guru Jee says in the Bani : Prabh ka simran man kee mel jaae, how will our sins be ever pardoned? What is mel in the verse above? It is the accumulated karmas/sins on our mind since we left our Father´s house, Sach Khand and started our residence in the Triloki mayavee and perishable creation. So you see, nobody from outside can wash that dirt, it is, we ourselves, with our love, our faith, our bhakti, as per Gurbani, which makes us receptive to His grace, which ultimately cleanses us throughly, and in the end is the cause of us becoming pure and merging in Him. In this sense the Bani says: Prabh ka simran garb na vaseh. If we meditate on Him, we shall not be born again, for then there shall be no karmas left, for His simran wipes away all our karmas/sins. He is ever Dayalu, Ke knows how weak ad low we are, for that purpose, He has kept the medicine within each and everyone of us in the same measure, in order to intake that medcine of Nam, and become pure/paviter. That is His beant wadeeayee. Stay blessed. SSA