Amandeep Hindustani

Yes, the article is full of b.s - Every major country in the world labels the khalistanis as fascists. Hell, you're being thrown out of your own gurudwaras. And its ironic that the author wants to talk about democracy but wants to set up a theoratic state called khalistan. The prevelance of the caste system in indian society does not disqualify india from being a democracy as much the prevelance of class system, racism disqualify the west from being a democracy.

The scholars of early sikhism (mostly brahmins and khatris) who wrote beutiful poetry, prose, sublime thought have all left sikhism. Replaced by (you know who) who have no such history. Meanwhile, on this forum I see people proclaiming themselves as kysterias further propogating the caste system with its rules (weapons worship, good food vs. bad food, singh surnames, kesri colours) Sikhism has lost its direction.

With all do respect Mr. N30 singhji, you are putting kerosene on a fire. This article will cause nothing but flame wars and nindya. Not good for either the sikh or the hindu.

Better yet - create a group, give yourself a fancy name, hold a meeting in a basement, record it, put it up youtube and claim " your version of history is correct". Thats the trend with you people, no?

Maybe in lala land with the oompa looompas. The question is not as to why hindus are using these terms and names but why sikhs are.

Hinduism's propensity to create sects even actively encourage it is the real reason behind the survival of the aghoris. Otherwise....?? Dont know what to say...

I know what you are getting at. "Amandeep" is as much sikh as "singh" is - not very much. Outside of a relatively stable job and income getting into manafacturing, services, government, private companies etc..also is the sure shot way of decimating tribalism, casteism, sexism, feudalism and general stupidness. However, in the long run caste or religious based quotas/reservations are a vote grab nothing more. However, some posters have pointed out that it did help other communities. So best of luck!

Yes, sir! One of the first things that I learned in economics at uni. Giving subsidies to professions are against certain free trade agreements because it gives them an unfair advantage. The money is still given out but its called "loans" or "grants" that are usually never paid back.

The life of the farmer is tough not just in India but all across the world. You really need the proper skills, passion for it just like any other profession. And some good luck as well because one bad summer or monsoon season and you are done. Unfortunately, I dont have a list of all the OBCs in the country but I would bet that most of them are in this profession. I think that in punjab free water and electricity are provided to the farmers and most them are still looking for more. This puts an unsual stress on the system. In the west, governments are not allowed to give subsidies because its against trade agreements but these handouts are called "grants" because most farmers cannot survive even in the west. The corporations can do this cheaper, faster and with better technology. Its smarter for farmers to use their wealth to educate their children and get them more stable professions. As for the movies, music about farming those are purposely created because it pulls at your heart strings and these artists know that. The result is ching ching for the artist.

The jatts demanding or asking to be included into the backward classes is a direct result of this community sticking to farming as livelyhood and staying out of manafacturing, service, government jobs. In fact, most of the communities included on the backward class list are basically farmers. The moral of the story? Get out of farming. Which brings me to my point in the "hans raj hans" thread. Money, position, power, education talks everything else walks. Including gangsta stuff...

Everything in the world today is decided via the boardrooms, courtrooms, senate offices. Do you think that hinduism would have survived this long if it did not have an ability to fight? While its sister civilizations have disappeared and read about in books. Do you think 500 years of survival is great? How about 2000, 3000, 4000? BTW, Guru Gobind Singh ji was not just a master of war but equally a master of education, learning and analysis. Maybe you should also strive for that ideal as well? The Gurkhas and Tamils are docile, peace loving people in real life until pushed and they become fierce warriors. Every human being retains this ability. Before the Gurkhas and Tamils, it was the sikhs before that it was the marattas before that it was the guptas before that it was the rajputs before that the Tamils again and then the Biharis. Push the gujju or punjabi hindu far enough you may get the same result....

Those are all blips. When life gets back to normal its all about wealth and education. BTW, congratulations to Indra Nooyi (CEO-Pepsi) Congratulations to Satya Nadella (CEO-Microsoft) and Dr. Arvind Gupta (CEO- UBC) and I am saddened by the passing of another hindu visionary last year Amar Bose -Bose Stereo Corporation. Now continue with the "gangsta stuff"

Then again the hindus are too busy getting top grades, top positions in business, politics, academia.......to worry about low level gangster stuff...

In my lifetime I have seen gujus bust so called singhs...hell I have even seen "singhs" running from "singhams" as they say in sri lanka...the tamil tigers...

Any individual ignoring the power of hindu civilization to defend itself is a fool! Buddhism nearly brought hinduism to extinction until a ferocious comeback resestablishing hinduism. The moslems deep into their rule nearly brought hinduism to extinction until once again a ferocious comeback starting in the 16th century. Ignore at your own peril. There is a saying for people like this "getting high on your own supply" the khalsa or the mullahs dont have a chance in la la land against a fairly united hinduism...

The jatt leader raja raam dug up akbars remains, burned them and sent aurangzeb some. Absolutely infuriating him. Better idea send his body to pakistan. betcha it wont make through punjab. We have this losers body but afghanistan has the body of prithvi raj chauhan buried next to ghaznivi ...maybe a swap..

I'd probably take the high road but mumble a few things..lol

I have always wondered if I had an opportunity to visit his tomb would I a) piss on his grave or take the high road and leave the dead man alone...

In this tomb lies the body of the man that poisoned relations between communities perhaps forever. There lies the body of the man that committed so much crimes during his day that its beyond comprehension. The tomb lies in the deep south where Aurangzeb spent the last 30 years of his life fighting the marathas. Based on his last days Aurangzeb was extremely repentent of the crimes he committed. Only God knows... The last words of Aurangzeb, addressed to his sons from death-bed, echo mournfully : “I came a stranger to this world and a stranger I depart. I know nothing of myself – what I am and what I was destined for. “My back is bent with weakness and my feet have lost the power of motion. The breath which rose is gone and has not left behind even a ray of hope. “The agonies of death come upon me fast. My vessel is launched upon the waves ! “

The janeu is replaced by the gatra, the stone idols are replaced by the sri guru granth sahib, the ritualistic bathes at the ganges are replaced by the bath at the harmandir sahib and on and on....... The irony is that every major sikh scholar in history had to read and understand hinduism before truly understanding sikhism. That continues even today. Below is what a muslim says about the death of Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj. Eyewitness account of the sikhs during that period. Ibrat Niimah or the Swaneh, 1705-19 A. D, written by Mirza Muhammad Harisi., devotes some thirteen pages to the contemporary account of the Sikhs, with particular reference to Banda Singh. The author mentions that Guru Gobind Singh had travelled in the train of Emperor Bahadur Shah to the Deccan and was killed there in 1120 al-Hijri, 1708 A. D., by an Afghan, an old enemy of his, and his body was cremated according to Hindu rites. Ajit Singh, who was popularly known as his son and had been received into royal favour, remained with the Emperor.

I have seen that interview as well. Bhagat's sister says that he did the paath of the Bhagavat Gita.