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The Hindu scumbag is trying to divide Sikhs into Jats and Non-Jats. Unfortunately some idiots are taking the bait with their own anti-Jat agenda. I do think that just as that Hindu jungchamkaur has a homosexual fixation on Rajputs, 'sherni' has a homosexual fixation on Jats.

The Akhbar-i-Darbar-i-Mualla of November 30, 1711 informs that “the rebel Guru [banda Singh Bahadur] wrote to Raja Ajit Singh and Raja Jai Singh that they come to his territory. They [the Sikhs] should be considered to have reached their territory. The Rajas killed the spies of the rebels and told that they were the servants of the Emperor. The rebels would be captured or killed soon.” It further adds, "Muhammed Amin Khan wrote to Raja Ajit Singh and Raja Ajit Singh if they jointly marched against the rebel leader they could capture or kill him soon. The Rajas wrote in reply that the matter be reported to the Emperor. In case the Mughals were attacked by the rebels they [Rajas] would immediately reach there".The Mughals who entertained apprehensions that the Rajput Rajas were in league with the Sikhs, had very tactfully prevented the Rajas to enter into any understanding with the Sikhs. To recapitulate, we can say that when the Sikhs under the leadership of Banda Singh Bahadur were fighting the Mughals to establish their own rule, the Rajput chiefs were sitting on the fringe totally unconcerned. They were satisfied to administer their hereditary possessions under the suzerainty of the Mughals. Unfortunately, they spurned Banda Singh Bahadur's proposal of Sikh–Rajput alliance which would have been a formidable challenge to the Mughal empire at that time.

The guy is a Hindu loser who hasn't achieved much in his life apart from some bogus political science degree so he needs to portray himself as a Sikh to have some level of self respect. Interesting point, have you ever come across a Sikh pretending to be a Hindu online and yet there are literally thousands of Hindu losers pretending to the Sikhs. Historically the only way a Hindu in Punjab could stop being a dhimmi and have any self respect was to become a Sikh. Maybe this is a modern day perversion of that process.

“In the important gathering of today, we are discussing the reasons for the failure of the revolt of 1857 but the whole energy seems to be focused around emphasizing that if Sikhs did not betray the revolt of 1857 would not have failed. By speaking like that about Sikhs you have insulted the whole Sikh community. The Sikh people have given more sacrifices as compared to their population proportion in this country and today the same Sikh community is being made to stand in the court. I am sitting back there and thinking from some time, that if at all the Sikhs have betrayed then whom and why? No! No! this allegation is totally false and against the facts. First of all we should discuss – was the revolt of 1857 in reality the first war of independence? No! I do not consider it as the first was of independence, not by any means! This was not any planned and organized revolt. The issue just arose from the fats of cow and pig. The cartridges of the bullets for the rifles are opened with mouth by soldiers. Somebody spread rumors in army that the cartridges are coated with cows and pigs fats. Due to the mention of cow’s fat the Hindus got angered and the Muslims got angered due to pigs fats. An army man named Mangal Pandey got angered due to some reason in the Meerut cantonment and shot his British officer. The unplanned and un-organized uprising started from here and the violence started spreading as more people came to know about this. But all this was happening due to religious feelings and not for the freedom of the country. Some shrewd people are trying to paint this religious disturbance as the struggle for independence. At that time, all the kings and chieftains were having their own different views on this religious disturbance. The whole country at that time was divided into small regions. Neither was there a common leader, nor was there any means of communication between all of these small regions.
I simply do not accept this uprising as the first war of independence because Hindustan (India) was in the shackles of slavery from 700 years. The person who encouraged people for independence for the first time was Guru Nanak Dev ji, and his voice was further strengthened by the Singhs (Sikhs): -

Excellent reply to Hindu fanatics by Dr Ganda Singh

Whenever a discussion regarding the independence of India has begun the newspapers, the communication mediums and the historical books have gone by leaps and bounds to represent the 1857 uprising as the first war of independence. The revolt of 1857 has been imposed on the brains of common people with that strength that a majority of them have accepted it as first war of independence without reasoning or questioning. Like this was not enough, with immense emphasis it has been said, “The revolt of 1857 would have never failed, provided the Sikhs did not betray. India could have got its independence 100 years earlier, but due to the betrayal by the Sikhs Britisher’s ruled for 90 years and kept plundering and destroying India.”
In 1957, a mega conference of top historians of India was held under the auspices of Central Government and topic of discussion was – “What was the reason for the failure of 1857 revolt?” Top academicians from universities delivered lengthy speeches. Most of them almost focused on only one thing that the revolt of 1857 failed due to betrayal by Sikhs. India had to see the 100 more years of slavery just because of the Sikhs. The famous Sikh historian Dr. Ganda Singh was also present in this mega conference. In fact, Dr. Ganda Singh was the chairman of this conference. He could not tolerate the insult to whole Sikh community. He felt deeply hurt due to the addressing of Sikhs with the word traitor by the top historians. Eventually, when listening and watching this despicable act was not more tolerable to Dr. Ganda Singh, he resigned from the president ship of this conference. At the same time Dr. Ganda Singh asked for time to speak on the stage. The conference hall became turbulent, people starting wondering what is going on? The president was scheduled to speak in the end of the conference, what is going on? First he submitted resignation and now he is asking for time to speak? – people where wondering and watching dumb stuck. Dr. Ganda Singh excellently presented the Sikh side of story and that too with such logic and reasoning that the audience was astonished. The whole way of thinking changed and atmosphere got reversed. The historians started to sweat they, who were speaking in loud voices before, started sneaking out of the conference now. Those who were yet to speak, they starting reconsidering the tought of speaking and one of them though it was better not to speak at all. What Dr. Ganda Singh spoke was quite a few and nobody gave any satisfactory reply to that. Its not possible to describe everything here what Dr. Ganda Singh spoke, but the following is the summary and central meaning of that talk:-

Just to reiterate what people already seem to know:

We have big problems with personality worship.Part of this stems of the old Panjabi problem of egotism. People want to be associated with x, y and z more to gain status from the the association than religious reasons.

You obviously don't understand politics. All movements especially national liberation movements have ebbs and flows. It might not be as strong at the moment in Punjab but given that the youth especially the educated youth are getting more and more involved in the movement this will change soon. Just as the youth of 1984 were at the forefront of the liberation struggle so will this generation and the next generation will be. When the people resolve to throw out their occupiers and oppressors then nothing in the world can stop them, Just look at Scotland, the people there have the same rights as the English and yet there is now a majority to make Scotland independent. Look at how Punjab is treated as an Indian colony and how Scotland is treated.

You can use all the abuse you want, the time will come when Hindu fascists like you whose hatred of the Sikhs have contributed to the marginalisation of their own community will get their just deserts.

Amritsar, Punjab (September 06, 2014): On September 06, 1995 Jaswant Singh Khalra, a human rights activist was picked up from his Kabir Park, Amritsar (Punjab) based residence in broad day light by Punjab police personnel.


The Police denied his arrest or detention and even all district police heads (SSPs) filed affidavits in the Supreme Court of India (SCI) declaring that Jaswant Singh Khalra was not wanted to their police in any case and thereby denied his arrest or detention by the Punjab police. Jaswant Singh Khalra was never seen by any one, his family members or the knows, after that incident. He was tortured to death by the Punjab police during his enforced disappearance.
Jaswant Singh Khalra’s path breaking work in Punjab has been recognized as legendary contribution towards the human rights. He had brought forth the fact of systematic and wide-spread enforced disappearances, extra-judicial killings and secret cremations by state’s security forces in Punjab. He took great risk over his life, and ultimately sacrificed it, to tell the world that how innocent civilians were subjected to mass level atrocities in Punjab by the state forces.
Sikh Siyasat News (SSN) remembers, and salute the martyrdom of, Shaheed Jaswant Singh Khalra – the legendary martyr of Human Rights, on his day of disappearance (Sept. 06).
Historic speech of Shaheed Jaswant Singh Khalra:
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Come on mate. I know you aren't that thick. Devious and prejudiced, but not thick.


It was your mother-selling people that denied their own mother-tongue.

My people stood up for their mother's honour, whereas your people sold it. Still given what your brave hindu ancestors did with their mothers and sisters, it is obvious to the world that you shamelessly carry on the traditions.

To generalize or even say that majority of the problems in Panjab are due to Jat "greed" would be incorrect and also unfair. How much "greedy" can a farmer get. Again if an non-Sikh prospers then he is successfull, if a Sikh tries to be prosperous then he is greedy? I think somehere there is a disconnect. The greed issues that you are trying to highlight are problems due to the systematic corruption of the Sikhs of Panjab, by the Indian government in their effort to "contain" the Sikhs. Yes, some Sikhs are to be blamed. Give unlimited and unquestionable power and then try to take it back to create insecurity and control things? KPS Gills, Kuldip Brars, etc and their likes are the greedy jats. Panjab has been a predomimantly agricultrual state such that the socio-economics has been centered around farming. The "green revolution" was "introduced" so that Panjab farmers will not be able to make the calls on the agricultrue front. Panjab would have been prosperous even otherwise. I think it is time for Sikhs to come togeather rather than labelling things as Jat/Chooda/Mazbi/Tarkhan/Rajput/Paape, etc. etc. issues. It is a shame that the things that were written off by our Gurus, we end up playing to the same things much to the benefit of our enemies.

I would imagine some of the causes would be:

They find it boring?

Don't understand? (language barrier)

Feel that katha doesn't apply to their everyday lives?

Alienation due to conservative, restrictive environment.

Sick of the hypocrisy commonly shown by community there?

Prefer doing other things?

Feel they can fulfill spiritual aspect of their lives at home?

SGPC is a completely corrupt institute - nothing less than modern day masands exactly the same as the type dasmesh pita excommunicated from the panth. Sikh institutes today are more of a political body for a certain caste and their money grabbing.

If they truly represented Sarbat Khalsa I'd convert to another religion...