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Gyani ji, where are you? Please come back, and continue to spread gurmat.

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Sorry the reason i know all of this is because i am just learner and researcher of sikhi-estoeric concepts, i m not a authority, i've spend good time studying what is bhramgyan in theory and try to study mind of bhramgyani by asking lot of open ended questions. I already have a camera, if someone gives me mic i can be proper journalist and interview sikh mystics and bhramgyanis. Lot of people are afraid asking questions to enlighten souls but whats there to be afraid, they dont bite, they are quite loving.

Adi sankara said- World is illusion, brahman alone is real, world is brahman. Adyashanti famous zen advaitic mystic goes on to say- these are not philosophical positioning/stand points rather they are in stages for spiritual seekers. Gurbani holds the similar position- Shalok nauvan- world is dream or illusion Vahiguru is alone reality / Asa di var and anand sahib- final non duality reality- World is reality/brahman. Eh Vish sansar tum dekhde eh har ka roop hai har roop nadri aaya | Our sikh mahapursh-knights holds the very similiar position as well- Sargun- vahairakh sata- where there are divisions in state of mind- seeker-devotee/ sargun saroop vahiguru - nine forms of bhagti / as seeker goes to formless meditation - porakh/aporakh gyan and feels non dual reality- paratamik sata only in everyone and - Nirgun Chetan Bhram- Pure Light ALIVE Ocean of Awareness in perception - they keep it simple, they live in sky of awareness - Chida akash/paratma akash- always at peripheral level--AFOR- Non fragmented thoughts -one pointdnesss, since they are peripheral level feel non duality all the time- they don't see multiplicity - they dont see different bodies, fragmented thoughts into various bodies or personality/duality- they see and feel unity everywhere as Non dual - advait- chaitan braham- pure awareness- Sat Chit Anand.

Haan ji here right click and save as http://www.gurmatveechar.com/books/Steeks_and_Teekas/Sant_Kartar_Singh_(Bhindrawale)/Jap.Ji.Sahib.Teeka.by.Sant.Kartar.Singh.Bhindrawale.(GurmatVeechar.com).pdf back up link: http://gurmatveechar.com/books/Steeks_and_Teekas/Sant_Kartar_Singh_(Bhindrawale)/Damdami.Taksal.Pehili.Pothi.Teeka.(GurmatVeechar.com).pdf

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I am out of touch on this topic, can anyone tell me whats happening with this dude- Update on ranjit singh dhandrianwale- whats happening with this dude..what is he stirring now

I wish bhai jagraj singh was still alive, to deal with two faced muslim and christian missionaries, no one can match him in terms of parchar in modern day, he really put them in their places. No one is sikh freind unfortunately... both hindu and muslims nationalist are no freinds of sikhs. One sikh is sava lakh no issue there but we got too many divisions amongst ourselves. No one can hurt us if we are united but unfortunately we are not... only one iron can cut other iron.

I believe thats a date when admin cut indira got obliterated. liquidated, wiped from this earth- Unfortunately, old sgpc doesnt go that far. https://old.sgpc.net/hukumnama/searchold.asp Perhaps other members can help.

dhan dhan dhan jay aya jis parsad jagat tereya

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We all on this path and learning together, here is my 2 cents- step by step process is not essential for everyone especially if one has tasted the direct path -grabbed narsingh directly (-narsingh symbolism of pure live atma-pure awareness) available all the time to everyone or narsingh(pure awareness) have grabbed you, even if its not essential then baby step by step process is highly recommended and safe for everyone as my veers lucky,soulfinder and sat pointed out- worked so hard/ lived example expereince on this thread to help others as there are some really good reasons for that- - Direct path alone is absolutely dangerous (living on razor edge sword its like hanging up a thread in high altitude) its not childs pay, its not yogi play its matter of grace but it will deprived you of everything-sleep you be in gyan jagrath, tired during day- while at job, cant funciton in gristh jevan, basic relationship, anti social, immense amount of bairaag, no hobbies, you be live awake but dead -hapazard awakening is very hard and emotionally and body tolling but dead while on this direct path, our sikh mahapursh would never propagate direct path as a general rule because there is no fall back- there are no steps, there is no grounding, when you fall you fall- miserably than try again again there are no stages advancement either you get swallowed alive in surrender devotion to atma or live it directly via gyan and become one with it or you not. 1 OR 0 non dual smadhi point. - There is saying you are entire ocean in a drop, imagine entire atomic atma grabbing this empty vessel- called body, without any preparations your thoughts/mind/ego be obliterated eaten alive by immense force of chaitna/Narsingha- pure awareness/consciouness. It effects your way of being with paradigm shift in much more more profound way will take time reintegrate pure alive awareness back in your body fully once it does then there is harmony. I was also explained this by sant jagjit singh harkhowale in a similiar way. - Direct path or not, everyone needs grounding in our sikh tradition- sargun bhakti-nine form of devotion towards sri guru granth sahib ji, shabad surat. Thats why sri guru granth sahib ji and our sikh mahapursh have given an framework- bhagti- sargun, seva, gurbani vahiguru mool mantar mantar abhyas kirtan, shabad surat with direct aim to get to direct path step by step slowly, its very safe for everyone. One can also tries the direct path (bhagti of self) while in those states while you have build up the ladder via- bhagti, seva, kirtan, shabad surat- fall back/grounding- No problem!, Fall back is safe you are back in body - senses, where you also feel bliss of kirtan, nine different forms of seva of sri guru granth sahib ji, shabad dhun then try try again slowly, sure its absolutely frustrating (especially if there is direct path-nirgun chaitan bhram -LIVE/ALL THE TIME-available moment to moment for everyone as backdrop ) you need pateince/steele nerve but trust me is safe, safe and safe for seekers especially in this western world where you gotta do your job, feed your family, raise your kids. Sant baba isher singh ji rara sahib barsi coming up, i invite everyone who respect saints to read ishavar amalok, framework is given there. Narsingh-reference:

Furthermore similiar example of water and wave from ishvar amalok lal-

Chidakash analogy meditation- sky of awareness : Ocean references in gurbani

Just passing by - this is good video, very similar esoteric pointers in sikhi - sagar infinite ocean of consciouness(pointers found in gurbani), chida akash - sky of awareness (pointers found in gurbani)

Gurfateh veer, how are you doing? How close are you in panthic circle in india ? I need to promote our sikhawareness.com bit more.. i will have some funding for this very soon..any ideas? Send me private message.

ok my 2 cent take, both male and female power/control should be given, surrender, centralized to sri guru granth sahib ji, guidance via hakumnamas. Now sri guru granth sahib is giver of salvation its not a rule book to live your socio-economic mundane life (i wont bring prem sumarag granth due to controversies) . All though if you have your spiritual life- approach your life from top, ordained by sargun saroop ishat guru - sri guru granth sahib ji then your social, economic life should also flow spontaneously with minimal clash course with each other, as per divine will-Hakum rajai chalna. I am not fan of human examples as shabad is eternal but best example in our history - bhagat kabeer and his wife-mata loi thats what i've learnt from the divans.

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Chatanga veer you idea is good. Yes, subsection we can definitely look into.

Can anyone invite back paapiman?

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