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"Seemingly the way out for women is emasculation rather than whole-heartedly fighting for their femininity to be accepted and given equal respect." why?

good stuff man. really good form of sewa IMO.

ironically enough that was about the right to life, in my view the right to offend is a lesser right yet it recieved infinitely more coverage.

agree

i think it is wrong str8 up. while i am not intolerant of homosexuals I do not think sikh marraige is really a thing that can happen between 2 mans. If people are gay fair enough, live together and enjoy life, but marraige between 2 mans doesn't really sound like grist jeevan to me.

from the dictionary definition I would guess it means those people who class themseves as spiritual mean they are more concerned with their spirit than their material wealth or physical things.

seems like you are trying to justify keeping women as subjugated persons in indian culture while trying to argue some how that in their subservience they are free and very important. this is not the case. perhaps it has something to do with your jathabandi and their views. Also i think it is ok for men to try and raise women up in society, most progressive socities already do this. Maybe this train of thought is used as a chat up line down ur sides but i can't really see how it works. its backward mentality like this that the taleban lot used to oppress women in afghanistan and somehow say they were doing them a favour. the notion of equality may indeed seem strange, especially when it threatens ones powerbase.

IF its true of course

can't see them. could you repost them please.

fair enuf, each to his own. i am arrogant blah blah blah. why should u have power over your wife, why can't it be a mutual relationship? how about fundamental equality. treating your wife as an equal would be a step in the right direction to raising womens profiles. i am feeling sorry for your yet to be wife already!

http://www.unitedsikhs.org/reliefproject.html

then perhaps you should help to raise the profile of women in 'your community'. and yes it is hypocrisy, just because your peers accept it doesn't mean it isn't hypocrisy. With your views to be honest i don't see how your wife would be 'privelaged'. i thought pre-historic indian cultural views like this would die out in the new generation of sikhs growing up. why will you not know her too well, i assume it will be an arranged marriage then. to be honest it sounds like your relationship will be starting with a lie. it is probably unfair to spring something like that on someone after you have married them.

So lets be absolutely clear on this, it would be ok for you to make love to other women if your wife could not satisfy you, but not for your wife to do the same. To be honest if I am getting the right jist of what you are saying I think it is just pure hypocrisy. In the same way that you say you expect your wife not to cheat on you because she is your wife do you not think she has similar expectations of you. quite possibly and you never answered the final question. would you tell your wife about the way you feel before you married her?

sounds like what your describing is hedonism. i think it is a valid question to ask how you would feel if your wife jumped into bed with someone else and fell in love with them and with other guys if you couldn't satisfy her? also do you think you should tell your wife of the way you feel about the subject before you marry her?

have u tried talking to professionals. your universities councilling service, or a specialist nhs unit. to be honest its not always the case that your partner is going to be any better than your friends or family. don't think just getting a girl is gonna solve all ur problems.

here=hear sorry, feeling thick!

i think this is a big problem. i also here of many people marrying in punjab who have no real interest in getting married and then abandoning there wives in this country.

same!

i have been to ਪੰਜਾਬ many times and lived in india for over a year earlier in my life. to be honest i think it is a myth to say many people are still untouched by western culture. from my own experiences (in doaba at least) i find that the myth that every1 is sida saday is far from the truth! although i agree not every1 fits into my streotype.

merry ramadan

because i doubht the arts council would ever allow funding for that. however public funds can be used when portraying sikhs negatively. or so it would seem

i agree more damage has been done. people from the sikh community have condemned the violence but the british media in their usual impartial manner have refused to report this. btw, who has threatened to bomb gurudwaras? can u post a link or sumthing. cheers

dunno about deg and booze. I think they weaken ur immune system even more so the flu lasts longer. obviously my mate told me this, i wudn't know from personal experience or nething!

i think the author of the play does have the freedom to speech just as the protesters have the freedom to protest. The only unfortunate thing was that it turned a little violent on saturday. However the media has gone on to falsely label the whole sikh community when i think very few people were involved in the criminal damage.

the playwright is substituting real talent with controversial depictions of sikhs to get her play accepted by middle britain as an ethnic freedom of speech thing.