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Veer ji here is the link i had previously posted on the subject.

Best wishes of the day veer ji and to other members on here !!!

All nihang dal do shastar pooja as its purtan maryada. Here is a few examples i found online related to the maryada.  http://sikh-reality.blogspot.com/2010/10/nine-nights-of-nauratey-and-tenth-of.html?m=1  https://m.facebook.com/652447751445011/photos/a.654586217897831.1073741831.652447751445011/995158367173946/?type=3&_ft_=top_level_post_id.995158367173946%3Atl_objid.995158367173946%3Athid.652447751445011%3A306061129499414%3A69%3A1420099200%3A1451635199%3A-8407892146641644402&__tn__=E http://kamalroopsingh.blogspot.com/2012/11/a-translation-of-shastravidia-book-by.html?m=1 Bansavalinama written in 1769 CE by Kesar Singh Chibber also mentions the celebrating of Dusshera. Kesar Singh Ji writes: ਦੁਸਹਰੇ ਦੇ ਦਿਨ ਪੂਜਾ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰਾਂ ਦੀ ਕਰਨ । ਚੰਡੀਪਾਠ ਕੀਤਾ ਰਸਨਾ ਦਾ ਉਚਾਰਨ । On the days of Dusshera, worship your weapons. From your mouths you should recite the ballads of Chandi [Chandi Chritars and Chandi Di Vaar]. ਧੂਪ ਦੀਪ, ਪੁਸ਼ਪ, ਬਹੁਤ ਹੋਵੈ ਸੁਗੰਧਿ । ਕੇਸਰ, ਚੰਦਨ, ਚਉਰ ਝੁਲੰਤ ।੩੯੦। [Worship your weapons by using] lots of Incense, Gee-lamps, flowers and nice fragrances. [use] Saffron, Sandalwood and a Wisk to wave [above your weapons]. - Bansavalinama pg. 161 ਬੰਸਾਵਲੀਨਾਮਾ ਪਨਾ ੧੬੧

I have heard that in nihang dals like Budha Dal they do Shastar Pooja with all the shastars wash them use dhoof jyot and read banis like Chandi Di Vaar, Shastar Naam Mala, Ugardanti and other banis around them as they get shakti power when bani is read near by. As my elders due to my caste used to Baba Vishwakarma Ji ardas infront of all the tools they could find in their homes. I still know middle aged people who know the ardas from my caste community. Its the same princple for Shastar Naam Mala around shastar pooja.

Very good link veer ji. I must try that for the migraine headaces sinus i get as these work for anti inflamationary.

Sri Hazur Sahib maryada is the best as only this Gurdwara Sahib Ji and Sri Patna Sahib Ji have got no spgc maryada which no one accepts. This pavitar gurdwara has got the original purtan maryda as full samproon Rehras Sahib is read. Sri Dasam Granth also has parkash. This is the only place that where Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji was not edited under the spgc singh sabha movement as they took many banis like Brahm Kavach,Ugardanti and many more banis which are not in the spgc bir. The anand ras i had visting in 2002 was the best place on earth as Sri Hazur Sahib is pure sachkhand. It gave me anand which i can never describe in words.

Here is new information i have found about Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindrawale and how they did benti for 84 not to happen by gyani thakur singh. Really worth listening to.

Thanks very much veer ji for answering the post. As you have given a better answer as i didn't know this information.

I remember a saakhi from Sant Partap Singh Ji Ilford Uk Karamsar Gurdwara Wale around 8/9 years back now this was when i was sitting in the kirtain divan hall. From what i remember from it and how it relates to this thread is important. There was a Sant called Sant Baba Sundar Singh Ji (not Damdami Taksal wale these are another one). So in their jawani young age Sant Ji always used to get into trouble with the police due to their anger attuide fighting etc. As their i think thiya/chacha ji was a halwdar they would be always free from the hawalaat. So one day his parents asked a pandit hand reader to find out his future kismat as they were always in trouble most of the time. When found out it was written 20 years jail was in their kismat life. Hearing this Sant Ji was shocked as who wouldn't. So they decided to paaths of Sri Jap Ji Sahib around 100/120 (can't remember extact count now) everyday and other paaths etc. One day came they wanted to make a gurdwara or was it someone who requested them so they didn't take permission from the maharaja of patiala as old habbits don't leave a person. They said in punjabi that they are only going to make a gurdwara so what ? This however led them into jail for 20 days as it was a criminal offence back then. So after 20 days they were free and i can't remember the rest but i think they were told this was a reduced cut of their 20 years punishment by all the bhagati they had done. So the moral of this story is that by visting a pandit hand reader etc they life had changed a lot and how gurbani and hand reading worked hand in hand as 20 years became 20 days.

Really good thread veer ji.

Really good thread veer ji @paapiman

Waheguru thanks veer ji for sharing this. I have a lot of pyar satkaar for Sant Ji as they are the most knowledged Sant in the panth today as they have done sangat of many great sants sadhus mahapurshs. Thats really shocking to hear that blood came from everywhere of that singh. I have been doing jaap of these banis so its really good you have shared this valuable information. Its really great Sant Ji is in Canada as i am in uk its hard for me to meet Sant Ji and have bachan with them. Also if they are visiting Toronto veer ji @paapiman and others can get a chance to meet Baba Ji.

Yes you are right veer ji as puran purshs and sants have got strong waves of bhagati simran. Automatically simran starts as the aura waves of sants helps their presence is really strong that words can describe it. In Gurbani on Ang 809 ਮਹਿਮਾ ਸਾਧੂ ਸੰਗ ਕੀ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਮੀਤਾ ॥ Mehimaa Saadhhoo Sang Kee Sunahu Maerae Meethaa || This is the Glory of the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; listen, O my friends. ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ (ਮਃ ੫) (੩੭) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੮੦੯ ਪੰ. ੧੭ Raag Bilaaval Guru Arjan Dev ਮੈਲੁ ਖੋਈ ਕੋਟਿ ਅਘ ਹਰੇ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਭਏ ਚੀਤਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Mail Khoee Kott Agh Harae Niramal Bheae Cheethaa ||1|| Rehaao || Filth is washed away, millions of sins are dispelled, and the consciousness becomes immaculate and pure. ||1||Pause|| ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ (ਮਃ ੫) (੩੭) ੧:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੮੦੯ ਪੰ. ੧੮ Raag Bilaaval Guru Arjan Dev

Thanks veer ji for posting the katha link. Bhen ji here is a hindi katha of Brahm Kavach i found and i have just added a hindi version of the bani from gyani thakur singh's facebook as he published it. Bhen ji if you download sundar gutka app from damdami taksal they have a hindi language for the banis they have published including brahm kavach.

Here is Baba Ji airport video at Toronto when they arrived.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Veer Ji these banis are taken out of the current sgpc version of Sri Dasam Granth but Sri Bhagauti Astotar avilable on sundar gutka or das granthi by budha dal or other nihang dals and Sri Hazur sahib. Or Sundar Gutka app on playstore. The second bani is Vaar Sri Bhagauti or Bhagat Bhagauti Vaar which is not avilable un many gutkas but might be in das granthi. But i have posted links for which i made a thread on here.

Here is a link i found as the title is a bit shocking to read especially as they sell tea. http://www.khalsaherbals.com/herbal-tea.htm

Bump this thread. Really good information on here very good to read.

Yes veer ji you are right. As it is written in Sri Sukhmani Sahib Brahm Gyani ki gat Brahm Gyani Janai. So its all Mahapurshs hukam as we will never no Sant Ji's hukam.

Veer ji they were a puran bramgyani. We are not even sant ji charan di dhoor or soil of their feet. Who knows maybe Sant Ji had sewadars make special tea rather than the normal type of tea. Cos i did hear Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji Rara Sahib Wale they would drink green tea.

Veer ji @paapiman here is reason why tea should not be drank as it was stopped by Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindrawale. Also is included how dhoof is made very interesting to listen.

Here is a track i found where gyani thakur singh mentions what i wrote in the post.

You are right veer ji its not easy as abc cos for both Gurbani Paaths and pyhsical well being a lot of training is needed for both sides. Plus another thing that helped was having ekta having family pyar between sikhs as well rather than how today how Sikhi has became as caste is a no1 issue due to gurdwaras made under castes in the uk and other countries. Then you have jathas fighting among themselves without naming anyone due to marydas banis etc. This just put more fuel for sikhi rather than helping.

You are right veer ji. But also i think the main root of power is Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Di Banis like Bramh Kavach,Chandi Di Vaar,Shastar Naam Mala,Akaal Ustat and many more. As these banis will give the Siphai soldier side and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Banis will give a Sant side as they will go hand in hand with Bir Ras and Shant Ras. I heard in katha that these banis made the mughals defeat as pathans did research to find out where the strength comes of the purtaan sikhs.