vijaydeep Singh

Gurfateh slandering and telling lies are bad be it misguided elements of RSS for Muslims or be it misguided Sikhs for Hindus.

Gurfateh Funds could have used for Tsunami refief or Earth quake relife or say 84 riot victoms upliftment.But who cares

Gurfateh Thanks a lot brother.

Palki(place of placing holy book) of gold -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gurfateh Das feels as if someone has slaped him when he sees Palki of gold in which Guru Maharaj are placed. Again recently there are some procession with pomp and show in which it will go to Nanakana Sahib. If possible it is better to remove gold from Golden Temple and let it be used to preach Gurmat and uplift mankind as Gurbani says. These people who manage just want pomp and show of Nagar kirtan and gliters of gold to let there own political convessing be there. By by cotting such event we can dicourage them.

Gurfateh It seems that we are AKJ,Nihungs or Singh Sabhaiya first and not Sikhs. Perhaps that some people do think. This is pity As per Kalki Avtar of Dasham Granth each day there will be cult and many many sects in ghore Kaliyuga and it seems to be starting. Das respect various ideolgogies togather but making wrong comments unto the great personality like Brother is hurting. Brother is of Panth and not of Nihungs or AKJ etc.Rather his intellect belong to whole mankind and is using to serve the whole. Akal Bless.And let him serve humanity for millions of years to come.

Gurfateh Das wants to request brother Amritpal Singh Ji Amrit to kindly elaborate these tow things as givne in the link below. http://www.amritworld.com/sanatani/lineage.pdf That as er Bhangu when it is writtan that five Jathas were made and one Jatha was from family linage of Guru is name of Bawa Binod Singh there? And was S.Binod Singh as per Gyani Gyan Singh of Tarona Dal was same as Bawa Binod Singh? do we have any writings over there which elaborate the same. Das is agreeing to this that Budhadal was made by Nawab Kapur Singh only but Das thinks that there were two people from Guru family whi were sent with Banda Singh Ji named Binod Singh and Baj Singh perhaps and they were termed as with same name in Bhangu's book and Das wants to confirm if it was refered in Suraj Prakash also. Das knows about Darbara Singh ji as they were head of Panth between Banda Singh Ji and Nawab Kapur Singh Ji. Das is more interested to know that did BAWA BINOD Singh JI also lived as long life as perhas another Singh of misl mentioned in book 'Sikh Raaj Kiven Banya;' by S. Sohan Singh Seetal.Whose name was erhas Karam Singh or Kishan Singh of Karro Singhia misl(das is not sure about misl or name). Das just wants to know that did Nawab Kapur Singh comanded vetran of Guru's time.If it is true then it means that historically Panth gives more livrae to young and able and present Akalis must leave some rooms for young one.

Gurfateh Well some self aclaimed 'Nihung' Gajjan Singh wants to give Honurary membership of some Group to Brother AmritPal Singh JI. Das can say if 'Nihung' Gajjan Singh is Nihung then he has no authority to decide for the membership of AKJ and let AKJ themselves apporach Brother for thier membership. Anyway if brother is from AKJ then DAs is happy to find first person from there with such high intellect and requests other AKJ people to come to brother and learn to read and understand and if they can not come and get tought from brother then they can go to Damdami Taksal.

Gurfateh Das wants to tell that this is read in the places of Sewapanthi an order of Sikhs who preach faith to Muslims also. kindly see an example and link below. The following poem of Rumi was recited and discussed. English Translation Where are you, martyrs divine, affliction-seekers of the plain of Karbala? Where are you, light-spirited lovers, speedier on wing than the birds of the air? Where are you, celestial kings who know how to open heaven's gate? Where are you, escaped from life and place? How can anyone tell reason, "Where are you?" Where are you, you who have broken the door of the prison and set the debtors free? Where are you, you who have opened the door of the storehouse? Where are you, help of the helpless? You are in that sea whereof the world is the foam; swim a while more. The forms of this world are the foam of that sea; leave the foam, if you are of the people of purity. My heart foamed, which took the shape of words; let go the form, and go take the heart, if you are of us. Shams-e Tabrizi, rise out of the east, for you are the source of the source of the source of every radiance. http://www.dar-al-masnavi.org/masnavi.html [web] http://www.dar-al-masnavi.org/masnavi.html[/web]

Dhan Dhan Baba!

Gurfateh Do we have Baba Inder Singh Ji of Bindra Kalan present over there????

Gurfateh Keep it up Brother! Das wants to make another comment. Hindus call themselves Sanatan Dharmi in Negitve sense as they say that as there is No founder of thier faith so it is Sanatan. Sikhs say that Sanatan(Eternal) ie Akal is thier founder so we are Sanatan.

Gurfateh Kindly see the link below http://www.amritworld.com/sanatani/index.htmlhttp://www.amritworld.com/sanatani/index.html das would only like to repeat one thing that ass per as Jathedar of Patna Sahib Gyani Iqbal Singh Ji. Sikh Panth is real Sanatan Dharama and Hinduism or Sematic faiths are born out of it. Brhama ,Vishnu and Mahesh were initial Sikhs. (Ref Wahiguru Naam Abhyas(Book in Punjabi)) Das is happy with the work of Brother Amritpal singh Ji and wish him best of luck

Gurfateh Perhaps no.

Gurfateh If das is not mistaken. 1.Jap(u) Sahib 2. Tva Prasad Swaye 3. Chaupayee Sahib

Gurfateh Das feels that it was wrong thing simiering the the minds of present day rioters which made native of france anti to outsiders which lead to Ban on Turban in Schools. In fact acts of Arabs or Muslim Africans can have adverse reprucursions on Sikhs or Hindus or Chineses who have never offended Frenchs.

Gurfateh If das is coorect then utiliseing interest from Bank or otherwise is tabbo or Haram in Islam. So let Piggybank remain as thier user a no longer Muslims.

Gurfateh greatindgs for Deeepawali and Deepmala Purab

Gurfateh well Hindus do not use term Malechh which they shoul use for filthy people. As far as true Islam is concern Kafir is one who does no have faith in the God(Allah). The so called Muslims infact do not follow Islam correctly. Forgive das if some one is hurt but coming back to Kirpan das appriciates both Musilms and Sikks for this tendency that instead of gettin adjusted to enviroment they tend to change environment to suit them.Same is true for Christions but Hindus should try to get inspiration from them and act accordingly. That all can help their coming generation survive from Mallechhas. Das can say that name of Ram and Krishna can survive in fornames of coming generation of Hindus but they need to have surname as Singh.

Gurfateh ijn the eye of the scinttific person adem bridge could be proof of engeeenering wonder as it between Sri Lanka and Rameshwar. There are some animals like hog deer found in Himalyas base and Sri Lank but not in south India. So that animal could hvae come with hill being transported by Hanumana Ji.

Gurfateh Well respected Sagroti Ji, Hindu word itself is something to do with accomdating even if some thing is unjust. Coorect notion woulfd have been Sanatan Dharmi or Arya who lives in whole world and not the Hindu resticted by hindukush(Hindu kill) mountain living in hindusthan. It is more in hindus to get accomodative best example das can give of his elder brother who while living in west has started to eat beef. das as no longer a Hindu so while in muslim country does not eat Halal. das only wants to convey that insted of teaching tolrance to Sikhs hindus must learn how to be fundamentailst or fantics from Sikhs like Sikhs else hindus will be kept on getting defeat or trechiury by 2nd largest group in India. Like in Kashmeer on Afghanistan hindus were told only to wear saffron or while in many villages in India some particualr community still use term say Kafir for hindus yet Hindus tolrate. they tolrate thier brethern being killed in Mau. They tolrate Pandits getting refuge status within India(evicted from kashmeer). There is want of proper guide for Hindus in Temple and further more few hindus vist temple and castewise and regionwise unforunatly we have diifernt temples all togather.And if one partuclar deitiy or sect temple is attacked otther sect sis least bothered. In our Bihar bloody lallos says that yadav must worship Krishna and Rama is of Rajputs yet the hindus tolrate him and make him rail minster. And things go on...

Gurfateh Das was near the blast site as that day Das was to visit Ustad(Coach) of his Akhara(wrezstling gym). Das did visit the spot of the Pahraganj. Das found a strange feeling in hindus and sikhs who were like collecting service in the form of wealth for quake vicomes in POK. Many of them were saying that it should be stopped immedeitly as 'they' are killing us while we serve them. Das only request that we must not generalise this that all pakistanis are bad.

Gurfateh bro Baz you are correct that due to pagan influnces there are many races and castes in Islam and Gurmat but that is not due to the faith but outer pagan elemetns. Das knows many chaudaris or Jaat Muslims in hindi area of India who are Muslim just by name as they worship dead and greaves etc and even have their own Brhaman Prist for some work.Same is in mewat area. Das finds it diffcult to understand that at the most they are more hindus and les of Muslim. anyway in Hindi or Punjabi we have terms Hinduani,Sikhni and Musalmani in used so term Musalminah can be used by Uleemas but non Muslim in this part of the world can use term Mussalmani. Regarding Ahmadis there calim that there founder is Imam Mehadi makes them anti Sikh also as in Dasham Granth Ji we are told that Mehdi Meer is yet to come.

Gurfateh once das was shoping at shop of Bhai Jeevan Singh ji in old Delhi das noted one accomplice of Gyani Sant Singh Ji Maskeen came there and bought Pran Sangali by Pandit Hardayal. MasKeen Ji and him were to visit south east asia soon thereafter. das is interested to know who Pandit hardayal was?

Gurfateh there are problems with Hindus also in west often when they change thier eating habiit and eat what is sinfull just to be more accomdated in west. Das can say that they too learn this thing from Sikhs to never compromise.ie insted of Hindus taking say beef they must let western people stop taking it.

Gurfateh das read one of its version as per Punajb universirty(available in library of GuruDwara Sahib of Barking East London). It had stated that Mecca has something to do with Shiva.Adem was Mahdev and Satan is Narad etc. As term Rangerhari is used so it means that Rangerh are rajputs converted to Islam. but Islam does not permit caste in general. As we see in Karnal Area of Haryana where we have hindu Rangerh so are they in West UP(converted to Hinduism after 1947 but made a new caste instead of rejoing Rajputs). So had there been term Musalmani(Muslim women) then we could have said that Rangarhani was Muslim. As per basic princeple of casteless Islam once a lady is termed as Rangarhani she was mere Rangarh and no more Muslim. In nutshell Rangarh may not always be a muslim or she could have been converted to Sikhismafter her marrige to Guru. So called reformer or missioaniers have intruduced large amount of mantmaat by editing old text and it should have been presented as it was and we would have used our brain to understand it. but since the time of Tat Khalsa inspired by britishers Brains and Minds of many scholars became to much narrow and desprate to understand sprituality.