5 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Lol now won't they need drugs then? When I was trying to say that Sarab rog ka aukhad is naam -- that is what guru Sahib has preached, believed and practiced.. you were quoting false stories. .. How can you believe on two contradictions at the same time? Which one is you? Or is there a psychological error? 

Your precious comments @GurjantGnostic

Lol 

Your poor husband, lol. 

I bet he wishes you'd use some Sukha for his medical health. Lol. 

59 minutes ago, Mooorakh said:

I am aware that you are interested in old writings and texts so you must be knowing how they were altered many times to finish n defame sikhi...YOU AGREED THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THEM SO Y SUPPORTING THE WRONG..

Also please compare -  what you have posted to what has been posted by paapiman. You are mentioning its use as a medicine when a sikh is hurt in the jung and he is mentioning it as a source of strength - to keep sikhs in bliss -- really? 

As for @GurjantGnostic one more time please read properly before commenting- #1. there's no point in supporting what u haven't read 

#2 there's no point in me answering to a passersby comment as it was quoted above by you. 

Oh okay. Charmer on all fronts. Convenient for you. 

I'm just gonna say it. You don't smell right. 

Here's some traits so far. 

Abuse a member and call on admin in the same breath. 

Try and silence a member on a platform specifically for discourse on these subjects. 

Avoid all questions.

Show absolutely no social grace. 

Show no personal accountability for your Krodh. 

It's okay. I find people like you fascinating. We can be besties. 

A quick aside on physical and emotional violence, and men and women. 

If we say that men excel in the physical and women the emotional. I would caution women to not threaten, or engage in, violence with men. It's therefore also inappropriate to threaten it, and it puts men in a very uncomfortable position. 

Considering that emotionally women are a super highway, and men are a foot path, in the world of the brain and nervous system, it's unfair for women to abuse men emotionally also. That would be like a man using his forte, and beating on you. 

Ultimately we all need to respect each other. 

I think it's a little cheeky to both threaten somebody with violence, and complain to the admin in the same paragraph. 

2 hours ago, mahanpaapi said:

 

 

That's about a particular sect that thought you could smoke your way to enlightenment. 

Here's an example. If you're dehydrated and use Sukha you will get super thirsty. And you will drink water. If you are on a forced march, thirsty no water, that same Sukha is going to hold your thirst at bay. Same with food. 

13 minutes ago, Mooorakh said:

Again.. Pls correct yourselves ONLY as medicinal supplements and that too on others. 

 

See thas my point of 'larai' is - why post such things on a forum where many sikhs and non sikhs visit to give them a wrong impression of your own Guru Sahibs quoting these false stories about Guruji. He's Sarab kala samarthan he wouldn't need these things and reading this kind of stuff may let people relate those ' chittaah fudus to my Guru Sahib' - we can't let that happen. Pls ask him to remove these false stories mentioning Guru Sahib consumed these things for refreshment, power etc

Yes Veer Ji. For the record I don't touch opiates with a ten foot pole and I recommend the same to anyone but the maimed or dying.

I read the posts as well as I could in passing. It seemed more to reference use of certain things in the Paanth, the requisition of things for the Fauj, and a personal anecdote about Sukha which doesn't offend me. 

I am interested about the sources but have not had time to read up on them. 

I think the Guru Sahiban having Afeem for their Fauj in war and using it are two different things.  

10 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Even if Sukha has milk in it?

How is the combination of Sukha and Karah Parshad ?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

It depends on what your body needs and the terpines in the strain. 

2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Do they drink their blood? Do they believe that it is nutritious?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Yes. And it is. Better than the meat. 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

@GurjantGnostic @dalsingh101

Where do you guys think our "Sukha" will rank?

Have you guys tried Sukha at Sri Hajoor saab?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

I have not had that bleasing. 

It makes water more alkaline so I'm gonna go with with hydrating. In fact I'm going to hydrate right now. 

We're all dehydrated. 

7 minutes ago, Mooorakh said:

See Mister this is no baani.. These are all false stories.. So you better stop promoting these crappy stuff else YOUR BHOOL CHUK IS NOT MAAF cos this is INTENTIONAL no bhool

 

None of the Sikh Gurus ever supported Nasha . Period">

You ignored my question and you owe @paapiman an apology in my opinion for how Krodhi you are bro. What are you doing to keep that in check?

@Mooorakh

Here's a social experiment. Go stand over the divet ground into the floor of Hazur Sahib, where they grind Sukha for Bhang, and tell the Akalis you want to hit them in the face. Then when you're eating through a straw for six months we can see if you want some codine or nah. Lol

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7 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

See Mister this is no baani.. These are all false stories.. So you better stop promoting these crappy stuff else YOUR BHOOL CHUK IS NOT MAAF cos this is INTENTIONAL no bhool

 

None of the Sikh Gurus ever supported Nasha . Period">

So, after battle when you have tens or hundreds of survivors, or soon to die, dismembered, disembowled, eyeball hanging out Soormas, the ever loving, ultimately compassionate Father of them all prescribed what to ease their agony exactly?

If someone pulled you out a pile of shit and blood and dead bodies, and took you to the side and cut your leg off, your supposed aversion to Afeem might dissipate friend. 

Not everybody in a Fauj is Baba Deep Singh Shaheed. 

Only some Soorma are going to have high enough Avastha to Naam Jaap through amputation and surgery etc. 

There are allied forces, non Sikhs, helping in some of these battles. You think the Guru had no Afeem for them as part of the supply chain for war?

When you go to war, your mobility, food, water, weapons all have to be seen to. You bring supplies for the dead, for the wish they were dead. When you go to war the necessary supplies make it obvious how brutal, disgusting, degrading, disfiguring, crippling and lethal what you are about to do is. 

You're a little red in the face Veer Ji over something that is honestly your own naivity. 

Just because Guru Granth Sahib Ji doesn't cover field medicine methods of the Faujs doesn't mean they didn't have to practice medicine and surgery bro. That kind of info, or historical accounts would be covered elsewhere....like probably where @paapiman is quoting from. 

Tangent but, there are African tribes that keep cattle only for their milk and blood and don't eat them. Just bleed them time to time. 

1 hour ago, paapiman said:

@dalsingh101

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Syqe Medical's randomized controlled trial demonstrates for first time that THC doses measured in micrograms relieve pain without significant side effects

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[1] - Israeli Researchers Present First Clinical Evidence That Cannabis at Microdosing Levels Relieves Pain (prnewswire.com)

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Bro we done coulda told them that. But they won't listen. Lol. 

2 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Who are Pygmies?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

A small indigenous group inhabiting a very food poor island.  Also known for being extremely small. 

12 minutes ago, paapiman said:

@chatanga1 @dalsingh101 @sarabatam @Soulfinder @Trimandeep Singh and others.

Have you heard of this Maryada before? Did Nihangs Singhs do this in the past? Any historical sources which mention this?

A bowl of sacrificial blood (possibly after Jhatka), is passed around during Amrit Sanchar (possibly for sipping) to initiate the Sikh into Kshatri (warrior) tradition of the Khalsa. This is done after the regular Amrit Sanchar, where the bowl of Amrit (Khande da) has been passed around for drinking.

@GurjantGnostic - Have you come across this tradition in any other warrior cultures?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Pygmies are the current holders of that tradition, but you would find that broadly in the past. 

2 hours ago, Mooorakh said:

Now! As for Bhakti let me tell you wats mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib ji. He says

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥

Jo Brehamanddae Soee Pinddae Jo Khojai So Paavai ||

The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; 

So when one sits in Bhakti they generate the super energy and intoxication of mind called - Sunn - (quietness) to enter the state of silence- samaadhi. All the abhiyaasi sikhs would know it as they experience it daily. There's a mention of such harmone being produced in the mind by Lucky veerji somewhere here on the forum. So the way these natural herbs grow on the earth they are produced in one's mind as well -- Kabir jee call it taari    We read it as Naam khumaari too--- Guru k Chardikala waale singhs were capable enough to do this JOG and get United in the feet of the Lord plus get the power to win any yudhh -- so please stop spreading these jhooti kahaniyaa and if you have little awareness - don't read them yourself too - else you won't be able to save yourself as well cos NO VIVEKI sikh is going to believe the crap you have posted - only few foolish followers may - dubb mooye bug bapde sir tull upar paav- along with - SO EVERYONE BE AWARE

I am sorry for being rude but I mean each n every word of it 

Between the Sunn and the boundless energy Simran provides, some.of the people at work think I'm on drugs. Lol. The reason is they're on drugs and can't keep up .

The tale told by tiny coffins is bad enough. The tales they can't tell are worse. 

32 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/amritsar/bachpan-bachao-andolan-rescues-five-members-of-bonded-family-including-three-young-children-in-amritsar/amp_articleshow/84653938.cms?__twitter_impression=true

 

Punjab: Three children among five members of bonded labourers' family rescued in Amritsar

 

Those rescued included Jasveer Singh , 23, his wife Baljit Kaur, 22, sons Gurjit Singh, 6, Fateh Singh 2 a daughter 

Reet Kaur 4

 

What a Shame , Sikhs all around the world present themselves as torchbearer of justice and here in Punjab 15th century like slavery is happening.

 

That's disgusting on all sides. The dairy owner needs to be Patit. 

On 7/24/2021 at 2:18 AM, paapiman said:

The below device, in combination with Simran/Kirtan (of Gurbani Shabads/Tuks related to Stress elimination), might help a person in managing his/her stress levels in these tough times.

 

https://neuvanalife.com/products/xen

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Be interesting to see what freq that sends to the nerve and if it resonates when singing Kirtan already. 

5 hours ago, paapiman said:

@Arsh1469 @Trimandeep Singh @dalsingh101

The below verses are from Sri Sarabloh Gurbani.

 

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ਪਾਵਕ ਬਾਚ ।।

The Speech of Fire

ਮੇਰੀ ਅਗਨਿਤਾ ਭਈ ਸੁ ਸਫਲ ।। ਤ੍ਵ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਧਰਨੀਧਰ ਬਿਲਮ ।। ਤ੍ਵ ਸੱਤਾ ਕਰ ਜਠਰ ਨਿਵਾਸਤਿ ।। ਸਰਬ ਭੂਤ ਕੇ ਉਦਰ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸਤਿ ।।੧।।

"Oh Foundation of the Earth , My nature of Fire is only successful through your Grace! Through your power I reside in the stomachs of people, in the stomachs of all beings I flame.

ਕਾਸਟ ਮਾਂਝ ਹਉਂ ਸਦਾ ਬਸਾਮੀ ।। ਜਠਰਾਨਲ ਬੜਵਾ ਨਿਧਿ ਗ੍ਰਾਮੀ ।। ਸਰਬ ਤੇਜ ਮਮ ਰੂਪ ਜਨੇਸ੍ਵਰ ।। ਭਖ ਭਸਮ ਹਉਂ ਕਰਤੁ ਮਹੇਸ੍ਵਰ ।।੨।।

Within all wood I reside, within all stomachs, and within the submarine volcanos. Oh Master of the servants, I am the form of all illumination, I burn all the food [for digestion] Oh Great Master !"

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[1] - https://www.manglacharan.com/post/the-speech-of-fire-sri-sarbloh-guru-granth-sahib

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Underwater volcanoes miss most people's mention. The advanced scientific mindset present in Gurbani is undeniable.