wahegurubol

I pray to God to give me a daughter girl

this is happening in UK... well-educated, well-off and intelligent people are aborting girl babies, then what can one expect of the illerate people in india.

I have seen a lot , a lot of sikh saints in sikhism, infact its more than in any religion, but the only thing is that its hard to find them, cos they dont believe in making themsellves famous

neo singhji, did u get my prv msg? i wonder. i m looking forward to hear from u in prv. thnks

i heard it is made from those special leaves which has got nicotine in it and that is what keeps you awake when u want to sleep.

its not typed by me, its copy-paste of an incident that i read on a forum. the english is simple. its UK-english,

Brother Mehtab Singh ji. My mom is so addicted to tea that wherever she goes she needs it otherwise she gets a headache. On the otherhand I just dont like hot-temperature drinks, so I dont enjoy tea or coffee. .. but I remember once that I drank 4 cups of coffe and at that day I started feeling dizzy , i felt it gave me some kind of NASHA. I rarely very rarely drink on certain occassions otherwise I dont drink it.

Smoking is banned in all religions.. Buddhist monks, jain monks, yogis, swamis, rishis, munis, mullahs, catholic priests... do u ever see anyone of them smoking???

YES both are defining states of God. I just want to say taht while there is Nirbikalpa Samadhi, there is also a more finer samadhi which is the ultimate state that is Sehaj Samadhi. The difference is that Sehaj Samadhi is like being permanently and forever in Nirbikalpa Samadhi. A person can go and come out willingly when he reaches nirbikalpa samadhi, but in sehaj samadhi he remains 24 hours in that state. This is why we sometimes say the mind has attained "SEHAJ". In this samadhi the breath becomes very slow and sometimes even stops, Heart also stops and there is no sense of Time... there is no past-present-future.. the perception is lost.

Mehtab Singh ji,I have also read in Se Kinehya book which is available for download on this very forum. In that book , donkeys normally dont go near tobacco fields. So here again it seems that Tobacco is some kind of a MEGA-TABOO in SIKHISM or perhaps in HUMANITY, perhaps its an ULTRA-MEGA-SIN. I just have one question haunting me. Who created Tobacco? It is likely Waheguru himself, so why is Tobacco defamed so much? I fully agree that Tobacco is very very bad for consumption and even dealing in Tobacco is bad, cos it is POISON. Theres not a single healthy point about smoking tobacco. BUT WHY is Tobacco hated????? afteralll its created by God , its a plant, like any other plants. Also in tea we drink tobacco???? ... I know some AKJ people who think that tea is NASHA and perhaps some even more fanatic ones say it is kurehit to drink tea. Looking forward for your feedback

WJKKWJKF,sadh sangat jeeyo with sad regret iam informing you that 2day beadbi on a massive scale took place at Sri Guru Singh Sabha Southall Park ave .The day started with a film crew 4rm Bollywood arriving at Glassy Juntion the pub opposite the gurdwara.More film people arrived later on theday and set up in the car park of the gurdwara,a crane later arrived with catering trucks which were parked at the back of the car park so the side on which the bridge was filled with fiolm crew cars vans and even a double decker bus.As word got around bollywod actors abhishiek bachchan and lara dutta were about 2 arrive crowds flocked 2 the gurdwara in waiting then at 4pm a pink limosounie and 4 mercedes people carriers arrived.......Not many people were about then but they began arriving on the bridge 2 get a glimpse of the actors when young singhs visited the gurdwara they were already annoyed by a giant crane at the front with spot lights hannging dwn and the comotion at the glassy juntion pub oppostie the gurdwara,singhs then arrived in the car park and 2 thier shock they were pushed around by fliping immigrants 4rm Bombay who had cme with the film crew,not being moved out of the gurdwara premisis they shut him up by declaring tht HIndu raaj is not here in england so dnt think u run the gurdwara and then the singhs left as not 2 cause commotion.They then arrived back 1hr later in the carpark 2 c the film crew smoking AND REMEMBER sangat jeeyo guru maharjs diwan is only a few yards 4rm the car park .........the film crew sum white some indian with no respect continued 2 smoke even after beeing told by singhs tht stop or otherwise....they then stopped but continued behind the trailers and trucks.....they full heartedly said the commitee allowed them 2 be there and tht the singsh were being a pain in the as,s ......Sadh sangat jiyo 2 my shock i had confirmed myslef tht Himmat sohi had let the film crew cme in 2the gurdwara premisis another shokc was tht the police had cme 2 provide protection and did nothing 2 help sikh youths stop smoking .......while the youts were standing they saw people drinking alcohol as wellas smoking THE BLIND SOUTHALL SANGAT DID NOTHING NO1 REACTED APART 4RM THE YOUNG SINGHS...an ''amritdhari'' woman begged 2 c abhishiek bachchan and get his autograph but was denyed has it cme 2 this gursikhs doing this seeing beadbi and not reacting??????????????????????Time went on and hundreds of so called ''sikhs'' arrived on the bridge and carp park 2 c the film beeing made .......when 'gyanis' were approached 2 the matter of smoking and 2 who had allowed this 2 happen they declined 2 comment and said commitees ok with it .....so lets get this in 2 context a gurdwara for gur di sangat is being used as a base 4 bollywood 2 make a film well ok all is gd BUT remember hw bollywood mocks sikhs as idiots who dance and drink, ok lets move on they use gurdwara car park as a base Bombay guys think they run the place ordering British Born sikhs around thier OWN gurdwara smoking takes place along with drinking the smuggling of kebabs in 2 the car park in which there is a trialer making fish and burgers at the back where no1 can c.......hindu guys with polish body gurds smoking behind trailers SANGAT IS BLIND NO1 REATCS ...ok this continued 4 several hrs UNTIL a group of girls arrived dressed worser than something u would see on a porn channel they walked up and dwn Guru ghars premisis in skirts sleevless shirts well nah cant call them shirts mre like bras WITHOUT THIER HEAD COVERED this along with 3 black men with thier trousres dwn and caps on spitting on the carpark floor.........Old sikh men cme 2 c bollywood girls half naked rather than go inside and matha tekh 2 sahib sri guru granth sahib ji ......hindu guys 4rm bombay bossing sagant around as if they run the gurdwara driving cars in and taking SANGATS CAR PRAK PLACES several SANGAT members had parking tickest as they had no place 2 park 2 cme matha tek 2 guru granth sahib ji .......ok The women walked off 2 the glassy juntion car park and began smoking they smoked quite a few went in 2 the glassy juntion pub came back out straight in 2 gurdwara premisis outside past langar hall in skirts and in 2the trailers in which they had 'lunch' yh all them kebabs burgers and the rest...abhishiek bachchan cmes out sangat SCREAMS AT THE SIGHT sikh girls jump up and dwn have they 4gotten inside is guru maharajs saroop and we are in a gurdwara carpark aint our screams heard inside the diwan at this point the diwan was nearly empty a few old bibyan thts all along with the langar hall only 1 person serving langar !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL THE GYANI were out2 try and get in 2the shot 4 the film as at this point they beagn filing Park Ave road and the junction ....So nw the gurdwaras empty smoking and drinking along with meat consumption is continuing at gurdwara carpark behind trailers ..Hindu helpers 4rm bombay are littering OUR CAR PARK THE SANGATS CAR PARK without a care bollywood fans sikh non sikh inside gurdwara carpark as if its a mela but still no1 reacted .....this ocntiuned 4 a few mre hrs .......Then came a shot in which abhishiek bachchan has 2 cross the juntion 4rm the bridge 2 glassy juntion pub,the flood lights then ILLUMINATE THE GURDWARA along with glassy juntion pub(NOTE flood lights basedin gurdwara carpark on a crane|) the shot requires abhishike and 4 girls including LARA dutta and the only way i can Define hw they looked is ''prostitutes'' naked with skirts swinging on the lights Oppostie Sri Guru Singh Sbha Southall so at this point the gurdwara is lit up fully the hwole road is sangat is going mad screaming in support of them THEN ABHISHIEK BACHCHAN CMES with a Khanda Chain while he is wearing this he 'tocches up' lara dutta and she does the same 2 him in a sexual manner so the khanda is in the shot then 3 more girls cme 2 be in the shot who look even mre like 'hoes' with skirts and guess what THEY WERE WEARING? gold karas MAKE no mistake they wernt bangles these were Karas and one had a small khanda chain and she WAS SMOKING so lets look sangat jiyo they are wearing symbols of Sikhi and Khalsa dresed like 'hoes' in front of a gurdwara whos sangat is blind and supports them Then they walk in2 glassy juntion pub.....with the sikh symbols .......Sevreal cries 4rm youths 2 remove symbols go in vain .....as so called guru di sangat 'says ''koina kuri panjabi ya lamboo di maa vi sikh ya (lamboo meaning amitabh bachchan,whos son abhishiek was wearing a khanda ) so they think jus cos a bollywood actres is calssed as panjabi she is allowed 2 disgrace the gurdwara the sikh quoam and be naked outside a gurdwara jus cos abhishikes gran was a so called sikh is it ok 4 him 2 waer a khanda and walk in 2 pub with naked girls??????? NO THIS IS DISGRACE is it ok 2 illumintate a gurdwara 4 a scene in which girls are naked and smoke is it ok 4 them 2 do tht i ask .....Well the blind sangat didnt care even the gyanis were out !.........several non sikhs also joined in the 'thamasha' and started 2 hang around teh gurdwara carpark Sikh girls came in thier groups with boys and acted as if the gurdwara was a club -well it seemed like 1 anyway with smoking drinking bollywood what mre do u need ........is this what has become of the sangat .........sikhs who protst agianst bollywood using the gurdwara as a chill out hang out base are pushed about by 'bamans' 4rm bombay amritdharis asking 4 fotos with actors ! Rememer hw bollywood laughs at SIkhi hw RSS supports it and hw amitabh bachchans funing 2 the congress party in 1984 helped pay 4 fuel and tyres 2 burn sikhs remember hw close he was 2 rajiv and nw we let his son cme smoke in our gurdwara car park and walk in 2 pub withe symbol of our Guru SADH SANGAT JEEYO imagine they came 2 a mosque i doubt any muslim would let them even set foot on the masjid premisis let alone drink and smoke ! so why did it happen 2 day il tellu cos the sangat is blind and have 4gotten the Guru and respect 2 guru granth sahib old gyanis and men like 2 c young bollywood actreses and extras smoking in mini skirts and like 2 c hindu actors walk in2 pubs with khandas on and like 2 girls swinging on lamposts with gold karas on 2 me it looks like another attempt by bollwywood 2 mock sikhi they use a gurdwara the stupid no gd 4 nothing commitee allow them 2 the wear karas and khandas and dress in a way oppostie 2 gursikhi within gurdwara premisis ,thy smoke in the carpark drink and smuggle kebab rolls in 4rm near by shops they litter they film right opposite the gurdwara while illuminating it ! and aslo use the car park as a camp SADH SANGAT JIYO AS I WRITE THIS DWN at this momnet they are in the carpark and are getting ready 2 shoot at glassy juntion The police along iwth bamans 4rm bombay dnt let no1 in carpark so just imagine whats going on right nw as no sangat is there well even when sangat was there they did do beadbi but imagine NW ...........THIS IS ALL DWN 2 HIMMAT SOHI AND HIS COMMITEE OF THUGS WHO HAVE 4GOTTEN WHAT SIKHI THEY DECLINED 2 COMMENT ON AY OF THE DAYS EVENTS GYANIS ALSO DECLINED NO 1REALLY CARED 4 GURU GRANTH SAHIB and the sanctity of the gurdwara aprt 4rm a few sikh youths,as the rest of the sangat old men women young sikh sluts thier motehrs and fatehrs had cme 2 c this 'specticle' below are the 2 main stars of the film abhisiehk bachacn and lara dutta 2 whihc the sangat were mad about i also am providing u with video links 4 2days events MORE VIDEOS ARE BEING UPLOADED 2MORW No1 seems 2 care in southall sangat dnt give 2 S**TS............all ic an say is tht I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE COMMITEE OR BOLLYWOOD 4 THIS ACT OF SACRALIGE BOYCOT THE FILM CALLED JHOOM BARABAR SRI WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA SRI WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH .........................................(link 2 all videos MRE ARE 2 COME 2MORW watch this space ) ************************************************************88

LOL MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... you sound so hillarious

hey what about me, no one is inviting me to canada ?

brother, i have visited canada and i love the place and i m craving to move there, but cant find any ideas.... :roll:

Taxi drivers are MOST at risk in USA. I wonder if such things happen in Canada also? USA is no more a place to live now. Mehtab Singh ji , i suggest you move to Canada.

yup thats what i am trying to say.

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:FSfh2Hc...lient=firefox-a Page 1 The Taboo of Halal for Sikhs Baldev Singh, 316 R Glad Way, Collegeville, Pa 19426, USA baldev6@netscape.com Recently, Gurtej Singh, national professor of Sikhism has published an article on the taboo of Halal for the Sikhs in the Abstracts of Sikh Studies, October-December, 1996. Professor Singh has followed traditional lines based on Rehit Namas (manuals of code of conduct), and the misinterpretation of Guru Nanak's comments on Halal in Asa Di Var to explain the origin of this taboo. I had hoped that an eminent scholar like Professor Singh will shed new light on this topic by providing a rational explanation based on Gurbani or the writings of Guru Gobind Singh. He has left the readers rather confused by making contradictory statements. For example, in the opening paragraph, first, he states that the Guru commands a Sikh to use reason in the worship of God (aklin sahib seviai)[1], and then he goes on to persuade the readers that taboos are to be followed meticulously without questioning their validity. Furthermore, in the example showing Guru Gobind Singh's immense love for animals, the author says that Guru Gobind Singh cursed Baba Dan Singh's young son for hitting Guru's horse. Cursing is not the attribute of a Brahm Gyani according to Gurabani, and I firmly believe that the Ten Nanaks were Brahm Gyanies. There is no mention of the prohibition of Halal for Sikhs, either in Guru Granth Sahib or in the Bani of Guru Gobind Singh according to my knowledge. However, the taboo of Halal for the Khalsa is found in the Rehit Namas, which were written by others long after the death of Guru Gobind Singh. These Rehit Namas have been used in drawing up the current Rehit Maryada (code of conduct) for the Sikhs. Sardar Piara Singh Padam has compiled fifteen Rehit Namas in a book form with his critique as a foreword. Every Sikh should read this book to understand the motives of the authors of the Rehit Namas. Some of the contents of the Rehit Namas are spurious, inconsistent with Gurbani, and unflattering to the Khalsa. Those who interpret Guru Nanak's hymn (abhakhya ka kutha bakra khanha, eating the meat of a male goat slaughtered in a Halal manner) as condemnation of eating Halal, should read his commentary on 1 Page 2 the behavior of Khatries of his time in Asa Di Var, on page 471 of Guru Granth Sahib. Guru Nanak did not condemn the partaking of Halal meat, rather he condemned the hypocrisy of the Khatries. The Khatries had abdicated their religious duties of defending their country and the weak, and taking a resolute stand against tyranny and injustice. Furthermore, the subjugated Khatries had adopted the language, manners and dress of their Muslim conquerors whom they called malech (polluted ones). Some of them sought employment with the Muslim conquers, and some of them held high ranks, and were responsible for the persecution of the Hindu masses. However, these Khatries were very strict and rigid in the practice of caste system and other meaningless rituals. It was in this context when Guru Nanak ridiculed Khatries by pointing out that while they were meticulously observing the ritual purity of their food and kitchen by not allowing people of lower castes near their kitchens, they were eating the flesh of animals slaughtered in a Halal fashion by Muslims whom they considered malech. I have the following questions for those who interpret the above described hymn as condemnation of partaking Halal. If Guru Nanak had proscribed Halal, then why the Tenth Nanak had to declare Halal as a taboo for the Khalsa? Were not the Sikhs following Guru Nanak's teachings? How come there is no statement on the taboo of Halal by either of the other Eight Nanaks? If Guru Gobind Singh had appointed Guru Granth Sahib as the eternal Guru of the Sikhs, then why Sikhs have to look for their Rehat Maryada (code of conduct ) in other places like Rehit Namas? Should not Guru Granth Sahib be a guide for a Sikh in every walk of life? Let me put forward an alternative explanation for the taboo of Halal. Halal is the slaughter of animals or birds according to religious rituals involving the cutting of the jugular vein slowly while the blood is being drained out completely. This process of slaughter prolongs the suffering of an animal or a bird. It is essentially a slow death by torture. It is mandatory for Muslims and Jews to slaughter animals only in a Halal fashion for meat for human consumption. Law in western countries prohibits Halal style slaughter of animals or birds. Jews and Muslims are exempt from this law on religious grounds. One of the reasons for this ban is the cruelty of this method of slaughter, which prolongs the suffering of animals and birds. Debating the virtues of being a vegetarian versus nonvegetarian is futile according to Gurbani. Guru Nanak summed up so beautifully and eloquently when he said, " Food which affects the body and mind adversely should be avoided ( baba hor khana khusi khuar, jis khade tan piriai man mein chalai vikar) 2 Page 3 [2]. Meat is just a part of human diet (jean ka aharjea khana eh karai)[3], and Gurbani neither encourages nor discourages a Sikh from partaking meat. However, the Hindu ancestors of Sikhs were generally vegetarians due to the influence of Jainism, Budhism and various sects of Hinduism which also abhorred eating flesh. Probably, there were very few Sikhs whose diet consisted of flesh during the time of the first five Gurus. The martyrdom of Guru Arjan brought new challenges to the young Sikh faith. The Master of miri and piri raised an army to fight against the Mughal rulers and their Khatri collaborators who were out to destroy him. He was an avid game hunter himself, and he encouraged his followers to do the same. His eldest son Baba Gurdita died in a hunting accident. The warlike atmosphere put greater emphasis on physical fitness and bodily strength, which required changes in the dietary habits of the Sikhs. I think more and more Sikhs started eating meat during this period and this trend continued with successive Gurus. The hunting expeditions of the rider of the blue steed (Guru Gobind Singh) are very well known. I think a significant number of Sikhs were including meat in their diet by the time Khalsa was created. The increased demand for meat required the slaughter of a large number of domestic animals like goats and sheep. It was, perhaps, under these circumstances that Guru Gobind Singh issued a proclamation about the manner in which the animals were to be slaughtered. Of course, every method of slaughter is cruel and painful. However, Jhatka style slaughter is very quick, and the animal suffers for a very short period. That is why in western countries, slaughterhouses use those methods that end the life of animals as quickly as possible. It is possible that before the arrival of Muslims, meat-eating Hindus used to slaughter the animals by Jhatka method. Since one of the foremost attributes of a Sikh is compassion, Guru Gobind Singh issued an edict for those members of the Khalsa fraternity who ate meat, to slaughter the animals by the Jhatka method only. Did Guru Gobind Singh proscribe the eating of Halal by the Khalsa prepared by Muslims? I do not think so, because Guru Gobind Singh's dearest friends and followers were Muslims. These were his Muslim friends, not high caste Hindus, who came to his help at very critical times during his battles and they made supreme sacrifices for him. They did not hold any thing back for his sake. It is hard for me to imagine that the Master of the white hawk and his nonvegetarian Sikhs would have declined to partake Halal prepared by Muslim friends. Additionally, what is the rational for a nonvegetarian Sikh against eating Halal? Probably, none! Then, who issued this edict that the Khalsa should not eat Halal? I think 3 Page 4 the followers of Kautlya are responsible for this edict. To understand my hypothesis, one has to understand the working of the mind of a Brahmin when he deals with his opponents. Brahmins and their allies have used Kautlya's (also known as Chanakya) policy to overpower or destroy religions which challenged their supremacy and posed a threat to their way of life. They have used this policy very successfully to strangle Sikhism. There are three very important features of this policy. First, infiltrate the ranks of the enemy to cause internal conflicts by playing one group against the other, resulting in destruction from within. The schismatic movements within Sikhism and other the problems Sikhs have been facing since 1947 are largely the product of this strategy. Second, destroy the opposing faith by spreading disinformation against it, and by interpolating contradictory ideology in the religious texts of the opposing faith. This causes confusion among the followers leading to weakening of commitment to the faith and cohesiveness of the community. The false report about the teachings of Sikh faith to Mughal authorities, the campaign to malign the entire Sikh community by labeling them as lawless, violent and terrorist all over the world for the last two decades, and the creation of kachi bani (false bani) should be seen in this light. Guru Arjan, the apostle of peace, put an end to the spread of kachi bani by compiling the Adi Granth. The efforts to distort the fundamentals of Sikhism were relentless. The Janam Sakhi (biography) of Guru Nanak was distorted very successfully. Furthermore, the foes of Sikhism got a golden opportunity to carry out their nefarious deeds after the death of Guru Gobind Singh. They mixed the writings of Guru Gobind Singh with the writing of others and compiled a voluminous book, which is called Dasam Granth currently. There is very little in this book, which is consistent with Gurbani, and can be considered as the composition of Guru Gobind Singh. The purpose of this book was to make Guru Gobind Singh look like a devout follower of a Hindu goddess, protector of Hinduism, and destroyer of Islam. Third, destroy your opponents by creating deadly conflicts between them. This machination had an active role in the deadly conflicts between the Mughals and Sikhs, which lasted for two centuries. Religion cannot be the basis of conflict between the Mhughals and Sikhs, because Islam and Sikhism are so similar. Recently, I was reading a book on the philosophy of Islam by Hazrat Mirza Gularn Ahmed. While I was reading this book, 1 felt as if I was reading the pages of Sri Guru Granth Sahib. If religion had been the cause of conflict between Islam and Sikhism, then, Professor Iqbal, one of the 4 Page 5 greatest poet and philosopher of this century would not have paid glorious tribute in his poetry to Guru Nanak, and Pir Budhu Shaw would not have sacrificed his dear ones for the sake of Guru Gobind Singh. The followers of Kautlya were not content just with the deadly conflicts between the Mughal rulers and Sikhs only, but also they wanted a complete rupture of social ties between Muslims and Sikhs. This objective was accomplished through Rehit Namas. The two taboos for the Khalsa mentioned in Rehit Namas are eating of Halal and a sexual relation with a Muslim woman. The later taboo has been replaced by adultery for a Sikh in the current Rehit Maryada. The Rehit Namas also urge the Khalsa to destroy the Turks (Muslims), and not have any social interaction with them. The above-mentioned items, in my opinion, have played a considerable role in undermining the friendly relations between Sikhs and Muslims after the death of Guru Gobind Singh. The taboo of Halal was practiced to such extremes that Sikhs stopped eating every kind of food cooked by Muslims. I was very young in 1947, but 1 have learned from the elders that Sikhs who originated from higher Hindu castes, used to treat Muslim Jats and Rajputs the same way as they treated lower caste Hindus when it came to inter-dining. In Panjabi there is saying that we do not have fraternal relation with those with whom we do not share our kitchen and food (jina nal sadi chulai chaunkai di ate khan pin di sanjh nahin ohna nal sada bhaichara hi kahda). This resulted in minimal social interactions between Sikhs and Muslims, and that is what the followers of Kautlya wanted. No Sikh ever paid any attention to the consequences of this attitude of the Sikhs toward Muslims. I wish Sikh scholars have dealt with Rehit Namas, Dasam Granth and other old writings which distort Sikh philosophy and are unflattering to the Khalsa, as effectively as they have dealt with the writings of W.H. McLeod, Hajot Oberoi, Pashaura Singh, and Khushwant Singh. [1] Mahala 1, Ad Guru Granth Sahib, p. 1245 [2] Mahala 1, Ad Guru Granth Sahib, p. 16 [3] Mahala 1, Ad Guru Granth Sahib, p. 955

READ THIS : brother... see you have a physical body.... and this physical body has a certain age, and it dies. then covering the physical body you have another intermediate body this is the etheric body. when you are deep in meditation and at that time you loose sense of your physical body, in this stage you are in the etheric body. after the etheric body comes the astral body, the only difference between the astral body and the etheric body is that the etheri body is a finer vibration of the physical body, where as the astral body vibrates at even finer and subtle vibrations, when you are aware of the astral body then you can leave your physical body and travel to different places. when you are deep in meditatino and if you feel as if you are coming out of your body,.... that sensation is your astral body. The astral body can be felt and experienced by anyone, even a non-spiritual person can. after the astral body comes the CASUAL BODY... the casual body is the IDEA BODY... and it can be experienced only by saints. after the casual BODY COMES THE SOUL ! the atma... this is the REAL GOD. So the SOUL... THE REAL YOU is covered in three delusions and that is the 1)Casual Body 2)Astral Body 3)Physical Body. When you die..only your physical bodies, and your etheric body also dies shortly after, but your astral body is still alive and it goes and takes upon another physical body and that is what is called REBIRTH. But when you do a lot of meditation, you shed your physical body, and your astral body and even then higher you can shed your casual body and experience the GOD. Just do a google search on "Astral Body" or a google search on "Astral Projection" It will give you all the answers. Infact the astral body lives in an ASTRAL WORLD it is a counterpart of the physical world ! which is vibrating at subtle vibrations and the casual body lives in an casual world which is vibrating even at subtle vibrations... We can feel only the physical body, cos we have bcome ignorant and attached to the five senses, this is why we can experience the higher and finer bodies.

strangely, i have also heard about a gurudwara near hazoor sahib where the parshaad served is actually meat.. its not karah parshaad, it is meat parshaad... !

I do believe that sikhi is against meat. Even though at a certain point in my life I had eatin meat.

You dont get it. Sikhi is against TOBACCO. So by not smoking but by selling we are just propogating the idea of SMOKING. The money that we make comes out of other people by the cigarette and smoking it down. If I was to work with your analogy then I think it would be right to work at a butcher shop and do halaal of animals and NOT eat meat and still be FINE ! If Guru saved the butcher it doest mean that we start selling cigarettes. Ithink its wrong.

When you die .. your physical body dies. It is the Astral Body that leaves the physical body permanently and goes to the next level. All ghosts-spirits- good or bad are all actually astral bodies ! what normaly-day ppl call as ghosts is actually an astral body and it is there when you are alive also. the barren field is referring to a state of mind, nothing to do with the astral body.

the astral body is alwys there with you. it vibrates at a finer frequency.... when u r deep in meditation the body that you can feel is the etheric body,which u feel yourself floationg, when u go more and more deep then u loose sense of physicla body and experience the astral. in dreams u r always navigating in your astral body.

ayushmaan bhavan bacha ! whats the file about?

can you describe the description of Mahapurshs? thanks