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In Sheikhupura, Sikhs had taken refuge in a factory, where they were soon to be surrounded by muslim military, and machine-gunned. Some 1200 Sikhs were killed in this massacre.

Here https://www.gurmatveechar.com/literature?browse=Steeks_and_Teekas look under the folder for Dasam Granth and its the one by Pandit Giani Narain Singh Lahore Walae lots of valuable Granths on there also.

Sri Charitro Pakhyan Granth from Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib.

And he couldn't find no better way of going about it? The stupid name-calling. The stupid GIFs. And do you really think here on this forum that we are against fighting castiesm or caste domination?

I'd be surprised if Azerbaijan invaded Armenia. They have got what they wanted for 20 years in taking over Nagorno Karabagh. Azerbaijan has also been warned by Iran that it should not overplay it's hand with Armenia. Turkey and Russia in the meantime have given strong support to Azerbaijan. Yet Iran is still supporting Russia against Ukraine. Israel has supported Azerbaijan in retaking Nagorno Karabagh, as they are not on good terms with Iran. It's a mess isn't it lol?

Great thread. The naqba of the palestinians happened in 1948, 1 year after the naqba of the Sikhs. Yet the Sikhs are generally mute to their own naqba in Panjab. It's like we have forgotten, or chosen to forget what happened in 1947. Its why Yasser Arafat was a great supporter of Nehru and Indira Gandhi, as they claimed to be secularists as well. But the state of India also got help and advice from Israel in counter-terrorism for Operation Bluestar, as the Israelis had been conducting such like operations for years. Both enemies. Both supporting India. It seems like their plan to create infighting between Palestinians backfired as one side came out very dominant. And then decided to kill 1000 Israelis.

If you look at Dal's posts from 10 years ago, he was at times talking the same trash, he was talking about a month ago. It's hard to beleive, yet true, that for all his academic prowess, research skills and general eloquence in discussing such topics, he has not moved an iota from his castiest drivel and mental block. Life is about becoming wiser and more forgiving and less intolerant as you grow older, but this dude just bucked the trend. Maybe he has not been posting here out of embarrassment.

Any idea what was amended?

He says it's from the responses he recieved from the survey, but it would be very easy for hi-tech india to gets its minions to write in and make these claims. These minions have been doing it on twitter for years.

Damn I stopped reading at number 9

Dear oh dear. With pappus like Sirsa what can you do? It is clearly stated that anyone coming in an official capacity is banned. Vikram is welcome to any gurdwara, should he want to come and listen to naam simran, sikh history and ongoing Sikh issues in a personal capacity. I wonder whether those tiranga waving Sikhs will now do another protest lol

"The Canadian prime minister has stood up for his citizens, whereas the UK government has failed to do so." The Uk govt has NEVER stood up for Sikhs. But Sikhs shamelessly accept this and never think about calling out the govt for it's inaction. Now that we've got a brown modi bag carrier in as PM, there's no chance that Sikhs will ever get a voice. Even the BBC which had it's offices raided by indian national security agents in the form of "tax investigators" after the modi interviews, has become somewhat mute rather than take up the challenge against state oppression.

Just seen this on facebook: An aide of Amritpal Singh (currently in Dibrugarh jail) Bhagwant Singh Bajeke's family has been arrested under some 751 dhara and sent to jail. Maybe those roads will help get opponents families into jails quicker.

Thats something Sri Akal Takht Sahib should be looking into. Jallianwala is not more than 100 metres from Darbar Sahib. And wagah is a place to go if you have half a brain cell. People will want to see partition museum only if they are interested in that part of history. Your list is pretty much next to nothing.

Its good to see that finally one country is standing up for truth and justice for the Sikhs. india meanwhile will do all it can to deflect from being put under the spotlight:

The biggest benefit that Panjab could ever have is forit's people not to live in fear of government oppression and police excesses. It won't affect them hugely if it takes an extra 10 minutes to get to the next city.

Jaswant Singh Khalra who was killed by terrorists

Watch this video and see why these parties suffer under your "democracy." Listen to the words this AAP minister uses:

Akali Dal won one seat. That shows that still 30 years later a significant proportion of people are still in support of Khalistan. And you need to ask yourself, if your dindu government didn't crack down hard and unnecessarily on pro-Khalistan political parties whether these parties would have acheived more. But you're not the kind really to ask to these questions. Why not? Wales and Scotland have become devolved powers without one bullet being fired, and Scotland has already undertaken a referendum to become an independent country without one bullet being fired. So why can't your country - "the world's largest democracy" go about democracy the same way. It's your government that broke the peace and brokered war. Sikhs didn't do it. Sikhs didn't betray the indian govt. The indian govt betrayed the Sikhs. if Khalistan cannot be made peacefully that is entirely the responsibility of your govt. So please don't come here with that rubbish. Not all muslims backed the league and those that stayed, stayed because your devte like nehru promised them they would be safe in india. Just like your bapu promised Sikhs that Panjab would be an autonomous state. That's only the flip of people like you. Who say "hindu-sikh bhai bhai" - you say it everyday don't you? Even when tens of gurdwaras have been attacked and destroyed. Maggots like you blame it on anyone else but yourselves. Your state has killed something like 50,000 Sikhs in false police encounters. 1% of that is 500. have even 1% of that 50000 been killed by islamists in recent decades? Where is Gurdwara Gyan Godri now? I bet when it was torn down, your father probably put another tirange on his shop and celebrated sales. What about Gurdwara Dongmar ? Taken from Sikhs 3 years ago, and Sikhs having to fight it through courts which will take anything up to 20 years. What has your govt done about that? But this post by you is 100% a typical dindu slave mentality. Anytime any Sikh raises any issue with india, maggots like you come running up to say "oh look at them islamics/muslim countries" So india would prefer to torture, rape and kill people rather than listen to their grievances and address them as savages, rather than humans. Great. Most of the world don't claim to be the world's largest democracy. Again another time you, a maggot, says "oh look at them and we can do the same" People of Panjab including Sikhs worked for the moghals administration. But the difference? In their hearts they worked for the betterment of the Panth. Well, we haven't made excuses for it like you. Living outside India, our involvement and reach is always limited. But yours isn't, and that still didn't stop your lot waving those tirangas. Well how have you got justice sitting in india? At least we have the freedom of expression here in our democracies. You dindus don't even have that.

The Katha of Sri Gur Panth Prakash has been started in English by UK Nihangs https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_DghvY9wph3UXsMsT5SaJIlFcoVIrmpB&feature=shared https://youtu.be/MaLYv4vaPtw?feature=shared

The thing is with destination weddings, is that SGGS is taken to some exotic location to do Anand Karaj, which Sri Akal Takht has already told Sikhs not to do. So the only places Sikhs could really get married in, in Panjab, would be Gurdwaras. So there woul be no takers from the diaspora. The other thing is that this is not going to create any revenue source of note. Panjab has very little "tourist" type attractions. It is a land of spirituality and soldiery, a land that has been scarred and stricken by wars and bloodshed. A land that has been inspired by poetry and suffering. It doesn't have the natural tourist attractions of let's say Paris, Tuscany or Milan etc. Panjab has the 1 attracion to tourists, that is Amritsar and the Golden Temple. An idea though would be, if Mann were to remove the Panjab Police HQ from Maharaja Ranjit Singh's fort in Phillaur, and instead return it to it's former glory and it's place in Sikh history.

Well your nana zail singh fomented unrest so much in Panjab that lead to Operation Bluestar. And during the aftermath the tincan clown zail singh went there with his shoes on in the parikrama and a flower in his lapel as if he was attending a wedding. What sanctity was he preserving? And then the tincan zail was instrumental in hosting the world sikh conference 1 month after.

There were some notable ones. Bhai Hardev Singh Bapu, a UK resident returned to Panjab and became shaheed in the Khalistan movement. Sukhwinder Singh Pappu etc was also a high ranking member of Zaffarwal's KCF.

You don't have respect for the truth either. If some Sikhs had a different opinion from welcoming jaats into Sikhi, why did you start on your sell-out behaviour? But you tincans aren't even united either. You have two tincan organisations here in the UK both fighting with each other over little things. Why haven't you highly-skilled tincans been able to keep your shitty biradari 'united'? And you the highly skilled hypcrite ready as always to blame all jatts for the actions of a few.

Highly skilled tincan, no-one ever asked for your respect on my perspective. What I did though, was a simple request for proof, from which you have shied away umpteenth times, in some attempt to avoid leaving your highly skilled character open to inspection. And then you know you can't provide any proof, to your casteism nonsense, and make a complete ar5e of yourself in the public domain. These posts stay here for years and what will upcoming Sikhs glean from YOUR perspective? That they should not talk out their backsides on certain matters. If you actually began to respect any of my perspectives I would be worried, because quite frankly, your posts are chaos. And I would know I was doing something wrong. I'm good at asking questions. Probably the same place you got your skills from? The same place you got your information (read lies) from. Out someone's ar5e I'd say. The Panth zail singh tincan screwed over (his own). Whilst his minions (like dal) sit idly in the UK, posting castiest lies, despite knowing better to go an make posts which are actually truth. I haven't got any land either lol. But I would specifically request you don't give any other tincans your skills.