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i do salsa dancing......very cool and enjoyable! :wink:

If the Guru could read Namaz with the muslims then it seems plausible that they could dance with Avtar Chaitanya.

Where does it say that? who would you get married to if you see everyone as a brother. Presumably your local aunty will introduce you to some chap, you both agree and get married - thats incest!

I am not familiar with that story, could you tell please? Again I need filling in with this, unless you are refering to Dhadriyan wale/

Cheers for that Shaheediyan Will look into those ....and keep a lookout for this nice gentleman! (PM further details if you will.)

I very much doubt that is the real shield of the 10th Guru in the article. Too modern, looks like they used some signwriter who writes on boards advertising some 'hatti' in Amritsar markets.

Suprised no answer, considering there are supposed scholars on this forum.

Does anyone know their history, as in who their guru is and where they studied. I've checked the website dedicated to them but it has only basic details. Also it is oft mention that they wrote/published books. What are these and where are they available?

According to kathas of nirmalas st jagjit singhji there are two.

Yet many Nirmalas I know of DO believe that the mool mantra is up to gurprasad. the next portion is a salok. Hence ,JapJi Sahib is made up of moolmantra, two saloks and the main hymn.

I stand corrected , it was St Augustine - I knew it was some time in August.LOL It has been a while since I last read up on it . And I'm pretty sure thats what he mentioned, though maybe wrong. Assuming it was mentioned by him must imply that their teachings had substantial effect on the British Pagan religions of that time; albeit being wiped out or 're-assigned' to subsequent Christian dogma.

....or moshing in the heavy metal pit?! LOL

http://www.sikhnet.com/discussion/viewtopi...db1d9b1b0c9e780 Sometimes even on other forums intelligent questions are asked. Whether intelligent answers will be given are unknown, so I ask the same here: Can you tell me what the BIJAI MUKHT and BHOOP NAMA are?

Thats true Morghe Sahar, but the education is very Euro/American-centric. You want to learn classical studies and generally you are restricted to Roman and greek studies and Latin. What if the Indo knowledge was bought forth through the taksals. Its happening in India with Sanskrit Studies, Unani/Ayervedic Medical Schools and Swami Ramdev Ji's Yog and Ayurved research centres from what I understand. How many people know that Buddhism reached the shores of britain long before Christianity! and it was mentioned by Romasn writers - i think it was Augustus.

Funny you should mention that as I also read an article from I think some Arya Samaji ( or ot5her such group) that mention the same thing. Just can;t remember where though. basic gist is that the avatars reflect the darwinian evolution of nature. from animals to humans. Aside question: Assuming the above and if and animal creatures are in narak - as per modern theology- then what caused them to go to narak in the first place if they weren't humans who were able to sin.?

A modern day Taxila! with people from all over coming to learn. What is your background tsingh.? I know that your a nirmala, but thats bout it. PM me if you wish.

I agree there. If that is the mindset of Sikhs then what difference between them and your typical, scientific minded kala afghana, missionary sikh? And why should God and his creation be whittled down to a simple rational understanding of humans.?

Would that be to cater for us the panjabi diaspora or western audiences? In either case I cant see it working: for panjabi audiences - can;t be bovered, will eat into their money earning time. For western audiences the Panjabis will outcry it as cultish or anti -sikh; as is the case for 3HO and that Baba Virsa Singh's place in New york.

Yes I noticed that. Does that mean I get a share of the golak charava? :wink:

Will defo do . Whats the market rate? what, with credit crunch and all need to find the cheapest place.

this is my 200th post sare dhunian nu vaddaie hove please go to your local 100% pure vegitarian sweet centre had have a laddoo ( your'e paying) and a glassy of mango lassi later.

Oh but it is. but because of Anti-Hindu sentiments that is prevelent in sikh society they won't talk about it openly. Quite a few times in Brum Gyanis will open up to if you decide to talk to them with a willingness to learn rather than to see if they fit into your own views of Sikhi. I spoken to some Granthis a gurdwaras and they have a decent amount of knowledge but no way to express them either out of fear for the commitee, no time given to do katha or whatever other reason.

There is a recognised form of homosexuality called the 'Harem Effect' which occurs when one sex is confined together for periods of time in seclusion. It happens in ALL prison around the world when male inmates are locked up for years at a time. Even though they are naturally Hetro, because they have no female around they turn to fellow inmates to satisfy their sexual urges and thus become Homo for a period. When they get out into the real world amongst the opposite sex they return to being hetrosexual. I have also heard such rumours when I was in India late last millenia. What we must remember is that just because these guys live in deras doesn't necessarily mean that they have high avastha. They still need to satisfy any base desires they have. if the common source (ie wives or girlfriends) is deprived they will look else where (porn, masturbation, female members of visiting sangat, children and even animals). hence the reason that even life long unmarried sadhus/sants such as Sant jagjit Singh says that people should get married and do what the birds and bee do.

Vah ji Vah. The guy is experiencing the holy spirit! Anand da Saroop!

If its debate for the sake of debating then you are right here; but if you really want to know answers or put an end to your doubts then you can only get that straight from the horses mouth, ie. go to the akarah and meet him.