Pheena

Man, as the mystics understand him, is the immortal soul surrounded by seven aspects. Here follows a summary of the "seven aspects of man" established around the actinic causal body of the soul, anandamaya kosha, "sheath of bliss": 1) the physical body, annamaya kosha, "food-made sheath;" 2) the vital health body, pranic sheath, pranamaya kosha; 3) the astral body, instinctive aspect of manomaya kosha; 4) the human aura and instinctive mind, prabhamandala and manas chitta; 5) the intellect, odic causal sheath, buddhi chitta; 6) the subtle nerve system, nadis and chakras; 7) the intuitive mind, actinodic causal sheath, vijnanamaya kosha, "sheath of cognition." Reverse your thinking about yourself... Visualize the pure radiant body of light, the being of the soul, the "I Am," the "Watcher." Then around that is formed the intuitive mind, and around that is formed the intellect. Then the chakras come into view, governing the highest to the lowest states of mind, and the ida, pingala and sushumna currents. The instinctive nature is formed around this, then the human aura, through which thought forms are created, then the vital health body, and then the physical body. - Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami

They go beyond the definition of the word and attach their own person interepetaiton/agendas and experiences to it. Perhaps this quote by Javanmard will help understand it better. It might not be describing the same word, but the idea is the same. http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...&highlight=

Even the Guru Granth Sahib speaks of Hell. What truely is Narak? For some its a firey pit where demons with pitchforks torture you. For other it is a state when their Lord is forgotten. For some it is the cycle of reincarnation that is Hell. For some it is Desire itself that is Hell. For some it is the 'Other' who is hell and this statement is perhaps the most simplist definition and yet contain within it the essence of what we call Hell.

I thought this was interesting:

hahahaha WHAT....did you call n30 that.. i had to read that twice...

Is this you first book publication veer? Do let us know when it is availabe for purchase.

It should not be a concern of what the others say. The others say there is Heaven or Hell, does that mean there must be one? The others say there is no reincarnation, does that mean this is the only birth? The others say there is no God. Does that mean there isn't God? All that matters is your self-discovery of Truth. You are given directions through the Guru Granth Sabhi to the Truth. Walk it and then find the truth for yourself whether there truely is heaven or hell. If not then its nothing but the imaginative speculations of the afterlife. Thinking of Hell or Heaven for that matter will not make it a reality for you.

i'd love to hear why does he force you to take some pepto bismol?

"When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty." ~ Gospel of Thomas; an ancient Gnostic Text

yes it is.

You are beautiful my friend.... Words themselves are empty of the 'thing' that they represent, they are merely pointers towards those things. Just as the word Water will not quinch your thirst, instead must seek that liquid that is called water to quinch your thirst. The word Waheguru can be spoken in the same respect....repeating it as a word will not give you anything, but if your allow your mind and heart to fully invoke the response that this Word is trying to point towards....revolutions happen, Silence erupts within. So the Words in the Guru Granth Sahib are pointers, hints, arrows, that speak of the connection to God and they point towards God. And these words carry such sharpness of arrows that whosoever is struck with them cannot help but seek the source of those words. From where did these words flow from....these poetic sparks when sung with the love of ones heart and mind will light the way of your journey and carry you into your ownself.

Truth is what is written, Truth is what was revealed by the 10 Gurus and the Masters who walked this Earth. If you use the word Truth instead of God, you'd find the answer in your own question. The question would lose its personification.

beautiful

Then by all means please define them for this discussion.

Vaho Vaho Gobind Singh, Aaapy Gur (,) Chela (he) is both the Desciple and the Divine Concsiousness. When there is noting other than God, then he himself becomes the desciple, he himself is the begger, he himself is the King, he himself is the Guru. An Enlightened Master expresses this exact paradoxical leela, this play of the Divine Dance where the Master himself will express Vairaaag and he himself will express from a Divine Standpoint. He has realized that he is everything so it is so that Guru Nanak dev ji expressed Humility and prayer throughout their expressions from a Sevak's point of view.

my beloved veer, What do the words "Infinite Paths" means when it comes to God? Do you think that for you to understand, every realized person must present "God" in a way in which you are able to comprehend through comparing the definitions which you have read, understood. If you feel they must present God like Guru Nanak dev ji did so then therein lie your error. Stop Comparing and declaring anyone path devoid of God. Once it is so that when you find God first, so then all Infinite Paths to him will unfold infront of you. Walk up the hill on ONE path and when you reach there you will see the infinite paths that exist from the valley below. Stop fighting with Words, go beyond them and see that everyone is Seeking God. Buddha Remained Silent whenever someone asked him of God, so tell me then, If one does not speak of God, does that mean they lack the realization of God? If one does not point a finger and say here is your God? Does that mean they don't know where God is? Does Silence equate to not knowing?

Infinite are his path, and devotees.......

hahahaah holy mother of God, that is just nuts...i wonder if the speakers are underneat the table where they poured the sugar... INtersting the higher the frequence the greater the division in the form...

here is a 7-8 min sitting meditation by him: http://www.khalis.net/SikhAwareness/Audio/...yong_Mipham.mp3

Christians have already covered that base with Jesus.

I was just thinking about this movie again and it finally hit me. 'NINDA' is a perfect example of how the law of attraction works...the mroe we tend to bad mouth others, the more we inherit their bad virtues....Amazing...!!! haha it was like a lightbulb going off in my head!!!!

They hypocracy is pointed out where the animal Pig which is sacred to muslim and is never used for eating, while a chicken is. Does God not reside in the Chicken also?

Nanak speaks in praise of God not as a pundit, but as if inebriated. His words aren't those of a scholar, but rather they express a person completely steeped in the wine of love; therefore the repetitions. They are words spoken in a state of ecstasy, just as you see a drunkard going along the road repeating himself over and over and over again. Nanak is completely inebriated with some profound intoxicant, so he also indulges in repetition. Babar, the Moghul, invaded India. Taking Nanak to be of doubtful character, he had him imprisoned along with others. But gradually the news began to reach Babar that there was a unique prisoner who created around him a strange atmosphere, a spirit of intoxication, and he kept singing happily all day. Babar thought such a man cannot be imprisoned who has an internal freedom that cannot be put in chains, so he sent Nanak a message to come and see him. Nanak replied, "You will have to come and visit, O king, for Nanak is in that realm from which visiting people is out of the question." So Babar himself went to the prison to see. He was very impressed by Nanak's personality. He brought him to the palace and offered him the choicest wine. Nanak laughed and sang a song in which he told the king that Nanak has already tasted the wine of God, now no other wine can affect him. The king would do well to drink from Nanak's wine instead of the ordinary wine. These are songs of a drunkard. Nanak sings away like a small child or like a drunkard. He is not guided by any rule or conditions, nor has he tried to beautify his language. His poems are like uncut stones. When a poet writes, he writes and rewrites and makes a thousand changes. He worries about the grammar, he worries about the rhythm, the meter, the words. He makes many changes. Even a poet the caliber of Rabindranath Tagore used to do this. His diaries are full of cuts and rewrites. Nanak's words are different. They are not changed and arranged. They are just as Nanak uttered them. These are words that were spoken and not written; therefore no account is kept of the rhythm or the cadence or even the language. If it has a meter, it is the meter of the soul; if there is any grammar, it is not of man, but of God. If you find any rhythm in it, it is the rhythm of the ecstasy and intoxication within. This is why whenever anyone asked Nanak a question he would say, "Listen!" then Mardana, his close disciple, would pick up his instrument and Nanak would sing. Remember this, otherwise you will be confused at Nanak's constant repetition. You will wonder why he keeps saying His attributes are priceless, His worth is priceless... again and again. These are words spoken in ecstasy, not words repeated from somewhere; these are words that hummed within him. It did not matter if others heard. If you keep this in mind, Nanak's words will reveal countless depths. ......... ......... ......... ......Nanak talks of Him for His very name is a source of bliss. He mentions Him at the slightest excuse, for it gives much joy. It seems he has nothing else to talk about. To introduce the subject is to knock at His door and when you talk of Him, the door opens. Have you ever noticed how a mother is always talking of her newborn child? Whether she talks to the neighbors, to her visitors, to the shopkeepers, the topic is always the child. The lover constantly tells his beloved how much he loves her, how beautiful she is, how unique, unparalleled. He tells her again and again, that there will never be another like her. How lucky he is to have her! The beloved doesn't realize why he keeps repeating the same things over and over. Constant repetition increases love. Love intensifies by constant repetition. Like the buzz of a bee as it hovers around the flowers, love begins to hum around the beloved. What happens in ordinary life is the same as in divine love, only on a different scale, but the substance remains the same. So Nanak goes on and on telling the same things about Him. If you have not loved, you will find this very jarring and foolish. The Japji can be told in three small words: Ek Omkar Satnam. Then why does he go on and on? There is so much pleasure, so much joy in talking about Him! And if the feeling takes birth within, you too will find how sweet, how tender is His name. A child was taught to say his prayers before going to bed. One day his mother observed him closely to see whether he really prayed. The child muttered one word and pulling the blanket up, lay down on the pillow. "What is this?" she asked, "Are your prayers over so soon?" The child answered, "Why should I waste my time saying the same things every day? So I say to God, 'Ditto!' and I'm sure He is intelligent enough to understand." The intellect gives you such advice: Why repeat yourself? But the heart wants to repeat over and over. The heart has never heard the word ditto. And while the heart keeps repeating, it is immersed in the nectar of His name. The more the heart repeats, the more we are lost in ecstasy. This is like the humming of the bee, but it can only be understood if you have had the necessary feelings. At the very end Nanak reminds us not to indulge in boasting of knowing Him or being able to describe His attributes, for that can only prove you to be the chief among fools. If by constantly singing His praises your ego is lost, you shall be the wise among the wise. If, however, talking of Him is strengthening your ego, if you think: Who else but I could know what I know? then you are the fool of fools!

impressive, the middle of the movie was getting a bit too materialistic, but the last few parts were just down right awesome!!! The message has been recieved. I'll try to see if this works...i've got a court date on monday for a ticket. --Think Positive--

so what does the law of attraction say to someone who is thoughtless?