Mithar

No one is saying that killing of her daughter is a lesser crime than hair removal. You think people are making a bigger deal of hair removal than killing of a person? I remember when she killed her daughter, it was all over the media and in Punjab this point was the main rallying point for all the groups opposed to the Badal group. Singhs back then even began to accuse her of being a Kurimaar and thus wanted her to be excommunicated, even though a Kurimaar is a person who is accused of female infanticide and not person who kills a grown woman. This went on for a few years, but in the end nothing happened because she had the backing of Badal. Now because she killed her daughter, it seems some people here may be suggesting that all her other crimes should not even be mentioned or highlighted. So if tomorrow if she gets caught red handed stealing from the Golakh, we should not even mention this because she killed her daughter and only that one crime of her's should be mentioned, does that make sense to you guys? Why only limit her to one crime? I say all her crimes should be shown to the world.

If you had read the news back then, then you would know that the "Patit Police" as you call them did make demands for action against her when her when she killed her daughter. In fact, it was only the Panthic Sikhs who tried their best to get her removed as the SGPC jathadar and arrested, but she was backed by the most powerful man in Punjab, Prakash Singh Badal who made sure she was protected, and anyone from PUnjab knows that you cannot be touched by the police if you have backing from Badal.

That's a part of it. In India it's like a cultural crime to run away and marry a boy, what makes it even worse is when the boy is from another caste. Jagir Kaur being Lubana, and the boy her daughter ran away with is a Jat.

lets hope they never see this site and the things we say about them. Especially my posts.

The ref is the clear winner, although that was a cheep shot hitting a man behind the head when he doesn't even expect it.

Great news. I hope the SGPC can turn this into a printing center for Birs and especially Sikh literature in the west. I've heard the SGPC is also planning on making a Sikh center for propagation of Sikhi in America. Lets pray that this is the beginning of something great.

People should only use legal methods to send their boys abroad. But even if they try to go illegally, at least they are boys and are strong enough to take care of themselves. What really annoys me is when I hear of Punjabi parents who send their girls all alone to a foreign country. These girls usually always end up doing all the wrong things whether it is joining flesh trade or keeping boyfriend after boyfriend. I don't blame the girls, the parents are the real douche bags for doing this, and all what? just so their daughter can sponsor them in the future! such disgraceful people. 8000 girls indulging in the flesh trade is a shocking figure. It's not hard to see Punjabi girls from traditional respectable families who are sent here as students have largely become ਲੋਫਰ ਕੁੜੀਆਂ without parental or elder supervision. Sad really, when will Punjabi parents learn from this modern tragedy.

I can see the other laws being enforced except the "banning calls to prayer" part. I've only read this in Muslim propaganda which as we all know will not be in favour of the Sikhs. Is there a third party source, like from a contemporary European or Hindu account which says Sikhs banned the Muslim call to prayer? From all the 3rd party accounts I have read they usually always say how tolerant Sikh rule was over non Sikhs.

I think this is one statement that all forum members can agree to.

On the Kala Afghanist site sikhmarg.com the Rehras Sahib has been changed. Until last week, when you clicked on http://www.sikhmarg.com/japji/rehraas.html you would get the Akal Takht approved Rehras Sahib, but now they have taken out the Dasam Bani portions of Rehras Sahib which were Benti Choupi and the two shabad that follow it the Svaiyaa and the Dohra. Although it is not surprising, but it just shows the fox like character of the Kala Afghanists. I still remember when they first started off, they would go around saying how they want to uphold the Akal Takht Maryadha and promote the Rehras Sahib approved by the Akal Takht, but as they started to gain support over a large part of the diaspora Sikhs, they began to show their real beliefs, then they were excommunicated. Now that they are excommunicated and have a large enough support base they are openly going against the Akal Takht and even questioning the validity of the authority of the Akal Takht. I have noticed that in the last few months as things have cooled down, Panthic Sikhs have begun to slow down their opposition to the Kala Afghanists. But if you look at the Kala Afghanist side, they are still just as active in spreading their anti Sikh literature and propaganda. This is a war of information and ideas and we need to stay on top and alert.

they should become Sikhs.

I wish in the future Sikhs can build a monument commemorating all the battles of the Anglo-Sikh war. In fact, there should be a monument at every place a battle happened during the two great wars. It is interesting that even though the Sikhs were outnumbered in all the battles, yet when you read the British account of the battles, they will inflate the numbers of the Sikhs trying to show that it was the British who were outnumbered, just look at the account of the battles in wikipedia where they give the over exaggerated inflated numbers according to British accounts. This is orientalist version of history. Is there any way we can change this because it is very misleading on wikipedia's part.

Brother, it's strange that you see only bad in Sikh Sants/Gianis (without seeing any good), yet you see divine light pouring out of the faces of Christian and Muslim holy men with out seeing anything bad in them (I could point a lot of bad things about them, but what's the point? since I myself am not perfect!) Instead of only looking at the bad in Sikh Sants and Gianis today, why not get inspired by the jeevanis of Baba Budha Jee, Bhai Mani Singh Jee, Baba Deep Singh Jee, Bhai Taru Singh Jee and countless other Bhagats in Sikh history. Even today, we have Mahapursh like Sant Jagjit Singh Harkhowalwalay who inspire Sikhs all over the world to do Bhagti, keep Amritvela and Rehit. So great Sikh saints are there, it is just a matter of you choosing whether you want to look at those examples or not.

Interesting article, it's a good khalsa centric response to western orientalist mindset.

LOL this was so funny!!! But it's so true. Apne have such a bad inferiority complex. An example of this is a distant relative of mine. She is a young girl(24) who was born and bred in Punjab. Then some NRI man from America came to India and married her. She had a light brown skin colour and when she was married she had this beautiful long braided hair. Within a year of coming to America, she cut her braided hair (guth) to her shoulder length. She died her hair blond and started wearing blue contact lenses even though she has brown skin. She even began to try to speak with an American accent very strangely by speaking through her nose. All she accomplished was to be laughed at behind her back. Sadly this type of inferiority complex is very common amongst all South Asian people.

NO! it's just a steek just like all other steeks, not a response to anyone.

Because a Sikh is suppose to feel compassion for all humans and animals. Animals don't have their Martin Luthar King Jrs or Nelson Mandelas. So we humans must feel compassion for them and voice our concearn for their safety & well being because if we humans wont, no one else will.

ਪਹਿਲਾ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਹਿੰਦੀ ਸਿਖ, ਫਿਰ ਗੱਲ ਕਰ| ਜਦੋਂ ਤਿਨੂੰ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਜਾਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਵੀ ਭਾਰਤੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਨਹੀ ਬੋਲਣੀ ਤੇ ਪੜ੍ਹਣੀ ਆਉਂਦੀ, ਤਾਂ ਉਸ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਬਾਰੇ ਬਹਿਸ ਕਰਨ ਦਾ ਕੀ ਫਾਇਦਾ? ਹੋਰ ਕੋਈ ਕੰਮ ਧੰਦਾ ਨਹੀ, ਬੱਸ ਬਿਨਾ ਗੱਲ ਤੋਂ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਦਾ ਟਾਈਮ ਖਰਾਬ ਕਰੋ|

ਤੁਹਾਡਾ ਭੱਲਾ ਹੋਵੇ! ਇਹ ਉਹ ਇਨਸਾਨ ਬੋਲ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਜਾਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਭੀ ਹਿੰਦੁਸਤਾਨੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਨੂੰ ਸਮਝਣ ਦੀ ਸਮਰਥਾ ਹੀ ਨਹੀ ਰਖਦੀ| ਫਿਰ ਭੀ ਇਹ ਹਰਜਸ ਆਪਣੇ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ ਬ੍ਰਿਜ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਉਤੇ ਵਿਦਵਾਨ ਸਮਝਦੀ ਹੈ|

That guy doing that to the poor dog is a pure demon. A future wife beater for sure.

As always Tony Jee, you said it like it is.

LOL, Bahadur used to say the same thing but with Shia'ism.

Veer Jee, problem eh hai ki pen ji noon Punjabi nahin aundi, naa Gurbani gurmukhi vich parhni aundi hai, phir bhi apne aap noon Gurmat te ek "vidhvaan" samajh dhi hai.

why doesn't wikileaks website work? have the government managed to wipe it off the internet?

DalSingh, there is no point in even addressing her. No matter what anyone says, she has already made up her mind with her preconceived Hindutva influenced ideas. You will just waste your time.