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jaikaara

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  1. of course Chandi is personified
  2. those poor soldiers are fighting ina terrain which they have never seen, adding to it pressure from human rights groups.
  3. We come across words like 'Maya' 'Bhagauti' 'JagMata' 'Durga' 'Kalka' which are descriptions of the maternal power. The word 'Shakti' or power is taken in the feminine form in hindustan, therefore the 'shakti' of Akaal is feminine.
  4. hindustan kisi de pyo di jaagir nai ke jo marji hoyi te ik tukda vand ke vakhra naa de dita... ais des te qom di rakhya vaaste khalsa prakat hoya, guru sahibaan te kayi hajaar singhaane shaheedi ditti oh kis vaaste ? koi geelani naa de turak nu delhi de takhat te biraajne vaaste?
  5. kashmir has been one of the richest states, tourism was flourishing, everything was in place, what went wrong ? 4 lakh kashmiri hindus were forced out at gun point. i haev 2 books on kashmir written by well known editors and writers and not of the rss khaaki kachche waale... the atrocities committed are beyond anything humane. veers i have personally been to the ladakh region of j&k , trust me these guys are filthy rich, the labor comes from bihar, no ladakhi/kashmiri will do labor jobs. the taxi drivers i befriended were like..i started thinking did they really need ot work? i been to some of the homes, they were palatial 9 room bungalows with land around. 2-3 cars owned by a single family is common. the decor was just magnificient. my observation is the sulleh can turn any heaven into hell...kashmir was beautiful and they were earning so well from tourism... what did they do ? all the shit about azaadi and mercilessly killed kashmiri hindus and sikhs. afghanistan..i long to go there..if u see the pictures its so amazing..they had bamiyan which could attract so many tourists..what did they do ? osama , taliban, 9/11 where the f**k do they ever live in peace ? they do such things and make hell the life of humanity all over this planet.
  6. what i belive is this is a question related to our emotions in regards to meat, now if we jump to naam simran and meditation....we r done ..that would mean each and everything should end like this...the panth has a prob ..chchaddo yaar..simran karo ..assannu ki?....sikh gals are targetted and converted to islam...chchaddo yaar..simran karo... this is pure escapism..this issue should be understood before expressing and expecting people to rate yor chardikala...you maybe spiritual ..but talking of meat doesnt make one less spiritual ..doesnt gurbani say..maas maas kar murakh jhaggre..so what does that mean ? that u shouldnt argue and accept all that shit in the market?? eat kutha and do simran ? or just turn yor head and be vegeterian and do simran ???? with this attitude we will never be sikhs we shall be hindus part 2...they had had this attitude..and to protect humanity and hindustan KHALSA had to take birth.
  7. nowadays even khatiks are leaving their profession
  8. lets all be kasai ourselves ! i can come to england and haeva jhatka training institute...what an idea sir ji !
  9. we r closely related to jatts, we somewhere are from the same clan, i can say is i m like 1/10th of a yamla jatt !
  10. so u mean even the word izzat must have been associated with jatt ness.. isss jatt
  11. i also belive that our huzuri singhs are against caste, during one of my recent visits to huzur sahib nanded, i was present at an ocassion when a newly married banjara couple had come to seek blessings. the did matha tek and offered their daswand, the sevadars had a brief conversation with them and invited them in th evening, the banjara sikhs (they were sehajdhari) replied that in the evening they had satnarayan paath. now in this situation, had the sevadars been of the singh sabha or the kirtani jatha, they would have done a lot of lecturing why they shouldnt do paat of satnarayan, HOWEVER, this is where our huzuri singhs deserve a pat on the back, they too smiled back and appreciated them.
  12. pls stress the reason also , that since we find halal very cruel, we prefer jhatka, there has been efforts made by some organisations to ban halal in the UK
  13. and i have seen the worst lot of them, doing all the kurehits ! the asnwer is simple the management during the time of babasaheb dint want the people coming in an organised form, they wanted to control the movment themselves so that they could save their seats.
  14. veers why do u get upset by what he shows, yes it is very disheartening that one of our apne was the organiser of such a barbaric act. however, this is a regular thing with 'them', honor killings are thier hobby read this article My link
  15. the west is not left out, usa has color, i thought this was past, however travel to old areas and interacting with whites destroys the myth of equality, UK has class differences
  16. here is a great poem by a poet from maharashtra Namdeo dhasal While I write this at night it’s three o’ clock Though I want to have a drink I don’t feel like drinking. Only I want to sleep peacefully And tomorrow morning see no varnas - Namdeo Dhasal
  17. thats the prob ..even after all the philosophies of equality we stand at the same sqare one from where ..umm i think we never started ..we always placed ourselves there what have we achieved ? what has hindustan achieved ? will these issues ever be history? i see these differences in the young generation, the last year firing case in vienna, i had tried to stop both sides from fighting each other and was at the recieving end from a lot of sikh youth, they would just swear " you bloddy chamar"
  18. www.sikhspectrum.com/112007/scheduled.pdf Ambedkar’s Move for en masse Conversion of Depressed Classes to Sikhism There has been a lack of clarity about why Ambedkar’s resolution for conversion of India’s scheduled castes to Sikhism in 1936 was quietly dropped. Sikhism was considered to be the best available option for moving out of the oppressive stranglehold of Hinduism. Understanding the reasons for rejection of this option and his conversion to Buddhism instead, 20 years later, is important to help make sense of the position of lower caste people in the Sikh community. A part of the suggestive explanation comes from Ambedkar’s biographer Dhananjay Keer, M S Gore and L R Bally. Perhaps another significant part of the explanation lies in a disclosure made by Sardar Kapur Singh in his Saachi Sakhi. On October 13, 1935 Ambedkar made a solemn statement at the Yeola conference of depressed classes that whereas unfortunately he was born a Hindu untouchable, “I solemnly assure you that I will not die a Hindu”. This rightly came as ‘a thunderbolt’, for it rocked political parties and social institutions in India. It was not simply a question of Ambedkar’s personal choice because of spiritual or religious reasons. He exhorted his followers to change their religion en masse: “you have nothing to lose except your chains, and everything to gain by changing your religion”. This made it a political question. The leading figures from all other religions, approached Ambedkar separately, inviting him to convert to their religion, promising different rewards. After serious thinking and consultations with a large number of people, Ambedkar had decided by June 1936 to embrace Sikhism along with his followers. This had the approval of the leaders of the Hindu Mahasabha and of Shankracharya Kurtakoti. Conversion to Sikhism was, as Ambedkar argued, the best choice from the standpoint of the Hindus [Keer 1971:279-80]. After participating in the Sikh Missionary conference at Amritsar in April Ambedkar sent his son, Yashwant Rao, and nephew to the Golden Temple in May, where they stayed for one month and a half, to observe the situation and meet with leaders of the community. On September 18 a group of 13 followers was deputed to visit Amritsar to meet the ‘Sikh Mission’. There was already an understanding that the Sikh Mission was going to start a college in Bombay in the interest of those Depressed Classes who would convert to Sikhism. One of the reasons for the change in Ambedkar’s programme may have related to his anxiety about the ‘chinks in the untouchable unity’. According to M S Gore “Ambedkar had always been conscious of the Mang community’s coolness towards his movement. Ambedkar responded by leaving the final decision on conversion to the future” [Gore 1993: 145]. Keer tends to suggest that the reason for postponing the idea of conversions related to his anxiety about the fate of the Depressed Classes’ share in political power after conversion to Sikhism [Keer: 286- 89]. Bally, who has been a leading Ambedkarite activist, writer and editor of Bhim Patrika, provided another explanation. According to him, the untouchables of Punjab had conveyed to Ambedkar the atrocities they suffered at the hands of the dominant community of jat Sikhs and appealed to him to ensure that the untouchables never become Sikhs [bally 1997:155, Ahir 1992:12]. However, a part of the reason why they failed to hit it off may well be related to a rethinking and opposition to the move among the Sikh political class. It was inevitable that the leading men would consider the fate of their leadership and position in the SGPC and Gurdwaras, after six crore (60 million) untouchables became Sikhs. Such is the evidence offered by Sardar Kapur Singh in his well known but controversial book, Saachi Sakhi. According to him there was an apprehension that once Ambedkar became a Sikh with all his followers, no one from the existing Sikh leaders like Baldev Singh would be nominated to the Viceroy’s executive council as a representative of the Sikh community. Master Tara Singh and his supporters had to consider their position and that of other leaders in the Sikh community and the Shiromani Akali Dal , the SGPC and control of gurdwaras. Kapur Singh recounted a story told by Sardar Inder Singh Karwal, an advocate and Akali leader to a small gathering of advocates in the bar room of Punjab High Court at Chandigarh in September 1964. He stated that when, because of differences between Akali leaders and Ambedkar, the six crore untouchables publicly dropped the idea of adopting Sikh religion, he asked his neighbour in Lahore, Sardar Harnam Singh Jhalla, MA, LLB, advocate, (judge of the high court), who was at that time a prominent Akali leader, the real reason or cause of this ‘tragedy’. Sardar Harnam Singh then replied “O you don’t have an understanding of these matters. By making six crore of untouchables, Sikhs, should we hand over the Darbar Sahib to Chuhras”?. ‘This way’, says Kapur Singh, “six crore of Rangretas – Guru Ka-Betas, who had come to the door of the Guru were pushed out; the same way as Guru Tegh Bahadur was not allowed to enter Harimandir Sahib (Golden Temple)”. But, according to him, the actual truth of the matter is even “more crude and despicable”. His argument is that when the ‘Akali party’ understood the full implications of six crores untouchables entering the Sikh community, they unanimously devised a strategy to deal with this ‘emergency’. Then “they unanimously decided that Ambedkar and his follower untouchables must be dissuaded and stopped from becoming Sikhs for all time”. Master Tara Singh, whose leadership of the Sikh community was threatened by Ambedkar’s entry, sent Sardar Sujan Singh to Bombay, ‘with specific instructions’ to tell Ambedkar ‘clearly’ the mind of the Akali leaders, so that he dropped the idea [Kapur
  19. so now we haev the 1000000000000000th ravan on earth ! incarnations and reincarnations !!!
  20. today's sardari is abt tunak tunak daru sharu and murga
  21. guys why is this gettign so haywire? guru maharaj has addressed something to his fauj i mean the actual fauj which was fighting, try understand this..those singhs were just laymen who had just no experience or any warrior spirit. in order to induce the warrior spirit and to get used to the sight of blood hunting is one sport.. i could compare it today's 3d violent games on yor PS4 or computer which does have an impact on a man's attitude
  22. i have had bad fights with them, i get red in the face with those ghass poos waale..if u cant jhatka yor subzi halaaal it or whateva..dont poke into my kalegi !
  23. there r 2000 excuses for not eating jhatka and another thousand theories for being vegeterian, all we can say is if u r sikh and non vegeterian jhatka meat is the only thing u can eat...if u r vege do what u want to do with yor vegeies..
  24. veera in india pork is not easily available in all regions, a place near me use to sell prok closed down..the non muslims here dont eat prok and its unhygenic in india, chances are u might get an infection
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