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On 10/12/2020 at 3:39 AM, ragnarok said:Would jus tlike to point out that i'ts not possible to use naam for ego. We shouldn't confuse gyaan and ridh-sidh with naam.
Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.
Very good understanding.
Naam, shabad,and amrit burn haumai and desires (trishna ) "haumai trishna shabad bujaai" Guru Amardas jee
Naam does not produce ego but it will invoke the awareness of it. The seeker becomes conscious of when mann is acting in ego or when mann is in guru's hukam( gur-mat). You get better in recognizing when one's ego is in play.
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12 hours ago, ragnarok said:
You can achieve power by practicing mantras. In english you could say that you 'sidh a mantra'.
As I mentioned above:
Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.
If you practice a mantra, any mantra, with the aim of getting power, anger or anything related to the five thieves or ego then it is not naam. Naam is your 'true self', the Satnaam. Man tu jot swaroop hai, aapna mool pachaan.
The examples of abuse Sikhilove is making above refer to people who get some amount of power and use it for personal gain of some sort. Not all of them do so overtly, there are gupt ones who are potentially more dangerous. By definition this is not naam even though it may involve mantra simran. Not all mantra simran is naam simran.
I would say Sidhi refers to the power, which may or may not be used selflessly. In general Sikhs are not supposed to use these at all even though a Sikh will gain the ability to access them along the path (ridh sidh nav nidh) but should leave everything to Hukam, and approach Maharaj with Ardas in case there is any issue bothering the Sikh.
nice explanation
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17 hours ago, Sat1176 said:All that happens is you spend hours listening to the gyan and jugtis but not enough time doing abhiyaas. So what you have done is dirty your mind even more. When you now sit for simran, you will be wondering which technique should I use because nothing is happening with the one I'm doing. The gyan becomes the maya for us. If I look back at how much time I spent listening to all these guys. Imagine how much simran I would have done in that time instead. My mind would have been very much more still. Instead It now wonders in 10 different teachers directions. This teacher said this, this person said that. Why is nothing happening. It is seeking that next experience to progress. It is not still at all
I'm the worst. I have been doing this for years now. Please don't make the same mistakes I did.
Guys, you really don't want to fall in this entrapment.
The Mind is too easy to tempt into different directions. Grabbing tips from x,y and z will only make the mind race and prevent it form stabilizing. One's daily conduct has to be done with a steady mind. How you go about in your day reflects how easily you can go into sehaj and steadiness in simran.
Keep it simple, have faith and be prepared to give your matt at all times. Jumping around with a monkey mind, going from x,y, z will only weaken your hold over the mann.
You must have complete faith in the EK that you decide to follow. No faith, means no progress.
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2 hours ago, harsharan000 said:
Excellent.
Gracias.
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47 minutes ago, Sajjan_Thug said:
Waheguru Ji
In this video he explains why he is doing all this and how he met Waheguru Ji and how to help anyone who wants to go on this path to meet Waheguru Ji.
Very good. I can relate to some of the stuff he is saying..
Very inspirational in the sense of "get up and do it, don't just talk about it'
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15 hours ago, harsharan000 said:
SSA Lucky Jee,
nice to see you.
You are 100% right what you have stated above, and nobody denies that what you have expressed is what Kirtan is and has to be in sikhee; but we are not alone in this world, the word kirtan , or kirtana, means ‘telling, narrating, enumerating or describing’ and originates from the Vedic period, where it was first written as anukirtana or anukriti, meaning a ‘re-telling.
We as skhs are not alone in this world, there are many more. For example , prayers, or meditation, are common to all to an extent, we can not say to anybody, listen because you do not perform as per our point of views or our panth, your prayers, your meditation, your kirtan, is all rubbish.
The so called kirtan which I posted and which a particular member has created so much mess about it due to own personal mental rigidity, is nothing but evilness of that member.
Has anyone paid attention to the wordings in it?
Isn´t the singer asking god for guidance and singing His praises, and tht too in punjabi language, which is more related to us to understand? Or is it because it is in a filmy tune or whatever tune, it is invoking the devil.
I am not saying, nor did I ever mention, that it is o.k to sing like that at Gurdwaras or at any groupal meetings, and that is the real kirtan.
It is sung by someone who loves Him, and has sung His praises, he has not used Gurabni in filmy tunes, which would be completely wrong, but he is singing out of his soul to the Lord.
We live in this world, and just as we hear so many types of music, so by chance I heard this song, which touched me, because it reminded me of Waheguru , not because of anything, but because His praises were sung, because of that I called it beautiful.
Sat sri akaal ji.
I totally get what you are saying. My post was to make it clear for newbies/young that "kirtan" has a different definition in sikhi. This is something I learned a long time ago through experience , when at the time; I assumed it was fine to sing dharmik geet in gurughar. I learned otherwise and pursued to educate myself about what can, and cannot, be done.
No hard feelings, you know I don't get into nitty gritty of disagreements but wanted to state the facts as they stand.
As for devotional songs and dharmeek geet; I'm a huge fan of old school geet especially tracks that i grew up with like the numbers by Bhujangy group, Yamla jatt, Narinder biba etc. (huge fan of vinyl collections!)
God bless, mai paapi tu bukhshanhaar, sachay patshah
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13 hours ago, Mooorakh said:Gurfateh Veerji,
This video is more like a commercialised and exaggerated form of Surti Travel. All abhiyasis feel their surti travelling above into Akash, sometimes floating slowly and other times very speedily launching off and travel to different devloks as lucky veerji and hisservant veerji has mentioned on the forum many times ( you can read some old threads) .. There, they get different experiences, like few sit and do simran and others hear music/ kirtan etc. This happens to them almost every night. This isn't OBE, Rather this is Sikhi. It must be a beautiful feeling
OBE Isn't sikhi. Internet is full of OBE experiences which are mostly crappy.
I heard in a katha recently that if our Mann develops the taste of these divine experiences once, it will love ❤them so much that it will urge you to sit in Naam all the time and forget the cheaper tastes of maya
But sachkhand is still far off for us yet... It's also called Begampura in Bani
Glad you paid attention to some older posts.
ਜਬ ਭਗਤਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਸੰਤ ਮੰਡਲੀ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਮਿਲਿ ਹਰਿ ਗਾਵਉ ॥
Jab bẖagaṯ karahi sanṯ mandlī ṯinĥ mil har gāva▫o.
When the galaxy of Saints worship the Lord in devotion, I join them, singing the Glorious Praises of the Lord.
ਕਰਉ ਨਮਸਕਾਰ ਭਗਤ ਜਨ ਧੂਰਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਲਾਵਉ ॥੩॥
Kara▫o namaskār bẖagaṯ jan ḏẖūr mukẖ lāva▫o. ||3||
I bow in reverence to the humble devotees, and apply the dust of their feet to my face. ||3||Here, one is to walk and tread on the path that the sant's themeselves have walked. This is meaning of pangti "kara-o namashkar bhagat jan, dhur mukh lava-o" . SIt and do bhagti with them, but then you will need to move on and go further. They are there to guide you and know you're the pardesi from dharamsala.. It's an avastha, but at this avastha one also has opportunity to get Aatmic gyan from certain points in deep simran.
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4 hours ago, Ragmaala said:Thats quite a bold statement, I would ask for guidance from him but i would be very careful in making him your murshad. Just be careful. See how far he can take you. Just hope he doesnt bind you in some way. Keep us updated
I agree. I've come across a few of these over the years. SHABAD is your GURU. "Shabad guru surat dhun chela" , your "internal guide" and GURU Maneyo Granth is your sargun saroop who you pay physical obedience to. As for the person in question "Charanjit Singh Gorkhi" , well I haven't listened to his recordings to make a judgement. ADVICE-USe your heart/atma to guide and NOT maan. The MIND is a slave to ego and will calculate accordingly to convince you. MANNs wisdom = MAN-MATT
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15 hours ago, Still nascent said:Sat Sri Akal all,
I happen to meet a gurmukh today, we were casually discussing abhyaas and he mentioned " Twade praana vich bot kampan hai. " He told me to do kapaalbhaati - exhale 20-30 times powerfully
Can someone please elaborate more on this and yoga and meditation in sikhi part.
@Mooorakh @DeNiro @tva prasad @HisServant and other abhiyaasis n guests. Your inputs are welcome
i've only done kapaalbhaati a handful of times. Mainly done Breath of fire in which the inhale and exhale are same length. Good for firing up and activating furnace/lower core in helping prana flow and metabolism. Kapaalbhati has longer exhales, so it would be more of purifying and cleansing orientated. There's probably much more into the yoga science, but I usually keep my focusing on energy direction and body balance.
as in to your original question about " praana vich kampan", I would normally suggest doing the cleansing technique of Saas graas at normal relaxed pace with some dhyian and inward pumps at the navel. This usually balances this out whilst doing simran.
I usually do yoga techniques and stretches as part of my workouts. Goal here is BODY->MIND, MIND->BODY, and I usually bring in gurmantar or other mantar. I find these physical approaches are usually beneficial if done 3-4 hrs before deeper simran session. See how you go and how it works better for you.
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KIRTAN is NOT to be confused with dharmeek geet or devotional songs.(as per sikhi). Some other faiths and sects call their devotional songs "kirtan" but this is NOT kirtan as per sikhi.
Kirtan can only be shabads taken from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, writings of Bhai Gurdas jee and Bhai Nand lal jee.
In the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji like a gurdwara stage for addressing sangat, only KIRTAN as per above definition can be performed. Not dharmeek geet or devotional songs. However, exception is made to the art of Dhadi vaaran which was encouraged and promoted by Sri Guru Hargobind Singh ji. Dhadi jathas are allowed to perform and sing vaaran(heroic ballads) in presence of Sri Guru granth sahib ji.
see SECTION V, article IV of sikh rehat maryada (code of conduct and conventions)
Article VI - Kirtan (Devotional Hymn Singing by a Group or an individual) a. Only a Sikh may perform kirtan in a congregation. b. Kirtan means singing and scriptural compositions in traditional musical measures. c. In the congregation, kirtan only of Gurbani (Guru Granth’s or Guru Gobind Singh’s hymns) and, for its elaboration, of the compositions of Bhai Gurdas and Bhai Nand Lal, may be performed. . It is improper, while singing hymns to rhythmic folk tunes or to traditional musical measures, or in team singing, to induct into them improvised and extraneous refrains. Only a line from the hymn should be a refrain.
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On 6/16/2020 at 9:05 AM, Ragmaala said:
@Sat1176@Mooorakh @Lucky Just yesterday, my ringing/insect sounds increased but I had this spinning sensation, headache , nausea and vomited several times. I couldn’t do anything else not even look at phone. So I was just focusing on breath. I also overslept that day and maybe that had a role in it ? Have you guys noticed any connection between increased ringing and dizziness/nausea. Even right now i feel slight sensation of spinning and some ringing. Uncomfortable feeling. Thanks.
Most physical ailments during or from abyaas are due to too much pressure when focusing. Usually when you put dhyian on spot where your praanic energy isn't free flowing or balanced. This leads to.--> turbulence----> can manifest to physical disturbance. Seems that you may have been focusing around ear area with dhyian and this may have caused the vestibular disturbance. .. The advice I've heard is to take focus to navel area. This makes sense in terms of yoga science, since core prana comes from below navel. I've heard others who get pounding headaches when focusing on agya chakar or trikuti. This is because they are not ready for it and have to do more saas graas in order to build foundation of flowing praana.. If you're not ready, then you will get pressure and turbulence of energy, which in turn will manifest as some kind of physical symptom.
That's my personal take on the matter, but I would suggest asking Bhai saab for assurance.
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Vitamin D is a MUST. Whole family have been taking 1000 to 2000IUs daily for nearly 10 years now.
Recommend between 2000IU ->4000IU max. Extremely beneficial for working out and pumping in the gym.
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'Currently been watching classic movies ...Robert Redford in Butch C'assidy and Sundance kid.... the electric horseman.. Also re-watching many Clint Eastwood movies. Planning on seeing "Unforgiven", 'Mystic River' and "Perfect world" in next few days.
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On 3/26/2020 at 12:47 PM, Jageera said:Currently watching Journey to the West (1996) series online with English subtitles.Story about the Monkey King and friends protecting a monk on his quest to retrieve Buddhist sutras. What about you guys?
i watched some of these a long time ago.
In the 80's, (when i was a junior), a show called "monkey" (monkey magic) was extremely popular. Have you seen these?
as kids, we used to love re-enacting the scenes in school playground.
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On 4/6/2020 at 9:28 AM, Mooorakh said:
I was reminded of you guys while taking the session and was wondering if you are taking the laaha too.
Hanji, I've been dialling in on some days depending what time it is. Usually between 3am-6am here! Missed it few days because didn't see notifications until after I woke up and it had already finished.
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On 4/2/2020 at 5:56 AM, Ragmaala said:
Thanks @Mooorakh penji You explained it beautifully, it makes sense. Its present throughout the day but intensity keeps going up and down. Wahgeuru! Baba ji sarean te kirpa karn including this keet .
@Lucky thanks veer ji
you know these little confirmations from you guys help me so much, you guys have no idea. Waheguru.
When your'e on a role, you should really make the most of it. Just keep persevering and don't cast too many doubts in the mind. Good job, I'm glad that you never gave up in the past.
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51 minutes ago, ragnarok said:
It's not airborne. When you speak you spit, it's unavoidable. If you're sick the droplets will spread th einfection.
It would be extremely foolish to assume it's not airborne. Especially after what "Fauci" says above. The virus is adapting and mutating. It can survive on surfaces for many hours, so how about all the microscopic dust particles and shedding from clothes and skin?
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On 5/6/2005 at 12:05 PM, Guest said:
I read in a book by sant baba jagjit singh ji harkhowalaey that-
There was conversation sakhi between Guru Ji and Mardana regarding celibacy in gristh hood...Guru Ji said you can have kids without having any phsyical relationship if you are highest spiritual stage. I found it very fascninating.
quote from that book:
Guru Ji then replied that reproducting children is done through "dristhi bhog" (Pure Vision). The people there practised naam with each and every pore of their bodies. On the basis of truth the women give birth just by looking at their partners eyes. At bhramgyan stage, one does not need to have intercourse to reproduce an kid.
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14 hours ago, Ragmaala said:
Exactly!! Thats what I am hearing too , but its way subtler than the one in video.
Hope my journey continues to grow Its been a long time...
I am going through this thread from the beginning, so many subtle things starting to make sense now.
This is it! Keep going. Back in the day, me and Sat could never get positive confirmation if we were hearing the right thing or not. It was one long juggle between yes and no' that went on for months. Happy to save you this frustration and verify that it's the correct direction.
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On 3/20/2020 at 4:38 AM, dalsingh101 said:You can get it online, but I got mine from a local Sri Lankan supermarket.
with these super-foods, you have to be a little careful from overseas products. Many indian imports have been found to contain levels of mercury, lead and arsenic. I usually try and go for USDA, organic and Non-GMO certified labels wherever possible.
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On 3/20/2020 at 1:50 PM, Ragmaala said:
Last night I became aware during dreaming. The details are very blurry. I felt these sensation of vibration and sounds , cant really explain. Also felt sensation of numbness and tingling in body and arms. These sensations were neither pleasurable nor painful, just there. There was a feeling of a little vulnerability. I don’t remember the rest.
sounds good!
On 3/20/2020 at 1:50 PM, Ragmaala said:I have been paying more attention to my ears. I have also noticed a whooshing sound in ears that coincides with pulse and last for 4-5 beats 1-2 times per day. In medical terms its called pulsatile tinnitus but obviously its not medical. Has anyone experienced these whooshing sounds ?
Yes, this could be vascular/pulsatile tinnitus phenomena as you say and it could also be coming from jugular-carotid area (what Dr. told me) However, you're only beginning to hear it since you are internalizing more. I've never been too sure because I was also told that they were pavan-shabads. Now, the same type of shabads manifest and repeat themselves later in sunn as anhad. References in gurbani for "chauri" fly-brush will give some clues. At this stage, I wouldn't get too wrapped up on whether they are physiological sounds or pavan shabads. Maybe a bit of both? just keep attention on jap and shabad and get prep'd for drinking amrit ras.
On 3/20/2020 at 1:50 PM, Ragmaala said:a distant sound which sounded like a washing machine in far distance. This was a very subtle dim sound. Lol i went down to check if someone had the washing machine on but nope.
Many sounds are heard between pavan shabads(as per chakras) and akash tat. As you ascend and go past the akasj tat you have to break through a barrier called "dhaval". This is akin to earth's outer surface at which gravity acts. Goal is to keep going and break past this into the sunn.
For now, you are hearing faint shabad, and the more you go antarghat, the closer you'll start to get. The frequencies will change until you are at a stage when it is 24/7.
Good efforts are leading to kirpa. Keep going!
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On 3/15/2020 at 9:45 AM, dalsingh101 said:
Another thing. I think I've had some of the best sleep I've had in ages since I've started taking this! lol
Good stuff. I usually take this in smoothies but mostly in the summer.
Ashwaganda has many properties and it's effective at lowering cortisol levels. This is both with cortisol level high due to physical demand(working out) and non-physical psyche(stress).
Good sleeping you've noticed makes sense because if you had higher cortisol levels then sleep pattern would be disrupted.
I've not particularly noticed the 'more alert' with myself but that's probably because i have other things for brain and focus. However, since you have noticed it, then i would utilizee that property and take dose prior to workouts to help maintain focus-stamina and also post workout or muscle pumps in order to help with muscle recovery. Ashwaganda also helps boost testosterone levels so it will help reap positive results, especially for over 40's men.
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19 hours ago, Ragmaala said:I recently spoke with Bhai Dharmjit Singh ji from Gurmat Meditation. He said what we call sleep is actually Sunn. He said whenever you feel sleepy during simran you should go more deeper into it.
@Sat1176 @Lucky i have recently noted that when doing simran or path I start to fall asleep there is a jerk or jhatka that wakes you up. Is that just a physiological response or am I reading too much into it ?
Also in regards to ringing, I start to notice it when I am concentrating such as during path, simran and while I am typing this. But its so faint, maybe 1 from a scale of 1 to 100. I have focused on it but it still stays very faint. Will it ever change or is it of any significance, in terms of progress ?
And while I am typing all this, an inner voice is saying why are you wasting your time, keep japping Naam , and place faith on Guru Ji, everything will happen as He wishes.
Good. As Sat says above, these are correct.
The jerk/jhatka is from your surti try to leave and connect into sunn. Sometimes, you may get a sudden feel as if you were "falling" downwards or may sense that you kind of tripped to a descent or fell. <<- This is when surti has risen upwards to akash tat or above and wasn't able to get further. It descends back down all of a sudden.
There are physiological explanations for all of these on basis of muscle contractions(troponin & tropomysin), movement of ions like Ca and Mg at muscle level and Na, K at neurological ...as you will be aware in medical field.... but the truth is that Sukham actions/subtle behavior ----> leads to physiological changes AND vice versa.
Do more saas saas and antarghat simran. The faint sound you hear will start opening up
Quotewhile I am typing all this, an inner voice is saying why are you wasting your time, keep japping Naam , and place faith on Guru Ji, everything will happen as He wishes.
LIsten to this inner voice. Try to identify it. It doesn't come by thinking. It comes from letting go and not using the mann. The mann always calculates to reach a solution for ego. When you step out of this network you can connect to the "aatmic' voice. It takes practice but you begin to understand if decisions/choices are hukam or manmat(mind calculated).
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Looks good. More refreshing with a warmer welcome.
Well done.