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My dad was there in the early 1970's the SGPC came to the Gurdwara and using force beat up the Mahant and the sevadaar and kicked them out. They then took over the dera as Guru Gobind Singh Ji rested there so they assumed authority over the dera.

The lineage ended after Baba Bhagwaan Singh Ji

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they did fight back but the scpg came with guns and a huge mob. Not a lot they could do . The samparda moved into the local gurdwara at Rampur but Baba Bhagwan Singh Ji (from what i am aware of) could not find a suitable sucessor for the jatha

That is exactly why Khalsa should always be Shastardhari. Most Bhagtiwalay Sikhs out there are only into Bhagti, but totally ignore the warrior aspect.

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That is exactly why Khalsa should always be Shastardhari. Most Bhagtiwalay Sikhs out there are only into Bhagti, but totally ignore the warrior aspect.

are you suggesting they should fought back with our own singhs? did u just forgot reru sahib samparda belong to the great sipahi soorma- baba bir singh ji naurangabad who despite of having all the shastar vidya/thousands of warrior singhs didnt raise a sword against dogra sikhs instead fed dogra sikh army who came to attack baba bir singh ji naurangabad fauj and after attain shaheediya.

sorry to say this, concept of shaheedi is not just soorma die fighting in battlefieled but much more deeper than this.. its also about controlling one's wrath and with humility respect your own brothers who are ought there to get you. One can argue how guru ji burn masanads.. all that is fine but bhramgyani mahapursh they have capablity to do the same but they dont because - Guru ji acts are sacred, they dont wish to copy guru ji actions..they wish not be in guru ji postions and fight against malech khalsa or masands.

Above is the very mentality back in 1984 as well, sikhs had against dera wale mahapursh and satoguni singhs.. some of them audacity to claim back around sant jarnail singh ji bhindranwale time, all the dera's who didnt support the movement militanly were cowards and fakes. People need to read history of singhs around guru's time before question actions of mahapursh, if such people had their own way they would even call bhai kehaniya ji coward as well because he didnt carry shastars, his shastars were medicine/food to feed to the enemy.

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are you suggesting they should fought back with our own singhs? did u just forgot reru sahib samparda belong to the great sipahi soorma- baba bir singh ji naurangabad who despite of having all the shastar vidya/thousands of warrior singhs didnt raise a sword against dogra sikhs instead fed dogra sikh army who came to attack baba bir singh ji naurangabad fauj and after attain shaheediya.

sorry to say this, concept of shaheedi is not just soorma die fighting in battlefieled but much more deeper than this.. its also about controlling one's wrath and with humility respect your own brothers who are ought there to get you. One can argue how guru ji burn masanads.. all that is fine but bhramgyani mahapursh they have capablity to do the same but they dont because - Guru ji acts are sacred, they dont wish to copy guru ji actions..they wish not be in guru ji postions and fight against malech khalsa or masands.

Above is the very mentality back in 1984 as well, sikhs had against dera wale mahapursh and satoguni singhs.. some of them audacity to claim back around sant jarnail singh ji bhindranwale time, all the dera's who didnt support the movement militanly were cowards and fakes. People need to read history of singhs around guru's time before question actions of mahapursh, if such people had their own way they would even call bhai kehaniya ji coward as well because he didnt carry shastars, his shastars were medicine/food to feed to the enemy.

Actually you are right Veer N30 Singh. Singhs shouldn't fight one another. Baba Bir Singh Jee's example is the best example of this. It's like Guru Sahib himself makes such examples for us to follow.

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