Kaljug Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Would hunting animals have any kind of detrimental effects on one's bhagti? I'm talking here about hunting vermin (rats, rabbits, chavs) to kill them, not to eat them. I'd be interested to know if any Mahapurush have mentioned hunting specifically and not as something that is used to obtain animal flesh for food. Thanks, K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 If hunting is done with compassion than it won't. But if its done to prove power of man or out of annoyance then yes. For mere mortals like us term "hunting with compassion" appears to be oxymoron but hunting with compassion would be giving animals liberation or just hope they transcendent into human next life. Only with bhramgyan one is truly over paap and paun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Would hunting animals have any kind of detrimental effects on one's bhagti? I'm talking here about hunting vermin (rats, rabbits, chavs) to kill them, not to eat them. Hunting chavs!!! Mate, I don't like them either but hunting them is going a bit too far.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hunting chavs!!! Mate, I don't like them either but hunting them is going a bit too far.... As long as you kill them in one shot (behind the ear like a rat or rabbit), I think it's probably fine. Like other vermin, I'd only hunt them to prevent them destroying crops on someone's farm. Guru willing, they will be born as a higher life form, perhaps even human, in their next janam. Regards, K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [/media As long as you kill them in one shot (behind the ear like a rat or rabbit), I think it's probably fine. Like other vermin, I'd only hunt them to prevent them destroying crops on someone's farm. Guru willing, they will be born as a higher life form, perhaps even human, in their next janam. Regards, K. I guess that would be acceptable. You have to be careful to keep an eye on the wider effects of this policy though. The knock on effect to staff at Burberry, in terms of sales, may leave some in a penurious state. Regards 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 you should talk to a singh who is very serious about abhyaas about this. or ask a mahapurkh. for a person who does tons of simran, even seeing violence on tv can hurt the mann. on this path it's important to avoid any harm to the mann. now people may say what about the sipahee aspect? that's all taken care of when it's tiem to take care of it. otherwise singhs just need to get in shape and practice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 that's all taken care of when it's tiem to take care of it. That is quite a big assumption. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted November 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 you should talk to a singh who is very serious about abhyaas about this. or ask a mahapurkh. for a person who does tons of simran, even seeing violence on tv can hurt the mann. on this path it's important to avoid any harm to the mann. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Yes, I'll ask Giani Thakur Singh about this when he is next here. I don't feel there should be any problem with killing vermin because Sikhs lay down mouse traps, kill spiders, poison roaches, murder headlice, etc etc. Sikhi, IMO, is practical - that is why we don't walk around with our mouths covered all the time like Jains. now people may say what about the sipahee aspect? that's all taken care of when it's tiem to take care of it. otherwise singhs just need to get in shape and practice. This is not true. Our Gurus advised their Sikhs to practice wrestling, shastar vidiya, and shikaar in preparation for war. They did not magically acquire these abilities during jung, and to rely on Divine Providence to teach one these skills is impractical, and in my opinion, is not in line with Sikh thought. In fact, it kind of reminds me of accounts recorded in V. S. Naipul's travel journals of Hindus relying on mantras to win India's brief war with China. On a more mundane level, getting in a ring without any experience and fighting someone who is trained for that sport will get you mauled. It would be exactly the same in war. K. K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 that's what i meant. practice shastar vidya, remain in shape, jaap bir russ bani. you'll be in fighting shape when the time comes. it should probably be fine, but i'm just saying, no point in taking a chance where bhagti is concerned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zulu Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 lets go hunting! tulwars out boys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 start practicing Jhatka guys ! i m looking for a iron smith to make me a good tulwaar for chatka somewhat like the nihangs carry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zulu Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 start practicing Jhatka guys ! i m looking for a iron smith to make me a good tulwaar for chatka somewhat like the nihangs carry good on you!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 its good if i am successful in getting it made , Sad part is i am not in Punjab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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