Ideal Singh Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Being a beginner, when it comes to understanding Gurmukhi language... the language of our Gurus... I would be regularly putting up some questions relating to Gurbani language, so kindly bear with me... Meaning of following terms frequently used in Gurbani. - Mahla - Ghar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 wanna learn the language: Cristopher Shackle's book is really good. The title is : An Introduction to the Sacred Language of the Sikhs. Best book in English on the subject for a recognised scholar of Panjabi and Sikhism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 i have to second amans's's question.. what does it mean when it's salok mahala panjvan Ghar chothan or something 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 all shabads are written reffering to the name of guru nanak dev ji because all 10 gurus were the same spirit of pehle paatshah.. mahala represents the physical body of who wrote the shabad... so where u see mahala 1... its written by pehle paatshah guru nanak dev ji.. where u see mahala 5 its written by guru arjun sahib ji... the mahalas range are 1 to 5 and 9 gurbani is written in its own metric form, this metric is the taal/beat when its sung in the form of keertan.. theres 17 ghars and each ghar indicates the beat which its played in raag is the music which complements the feeling which the shabad is expressing have a look at this also to shed more light onto raags and ghars http://www.sikhreview.org/may2002/music.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Dear amans Ji, Please get yourself Guru Granth Darpan by Prof. Sahib Singh. You can get it online for free at http://www.gurbanifiles.org Click on Gurmukhi only, right click on the download link and you're away!Enjoy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspired Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 thanks for the hook up! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted August 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Steel Bangle : raag is the music which complements the feeling which the shabad is expressing have a look at this also to shed more light onto raags and ghars http://www.sikhreview.org/may2002/music.htm Thats was a neat explanation !!! Thanx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted August 18, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 There are some shabads in SGGS which have been repeated in more than one Raags... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugermach Singh Posted August 18, 2003 Report Share Posted August 18, 2003 fateh. is there :?: could you give us an example pls? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted August 19, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 sun vuddaa aakhai subh koe is on p-9 as well as on p-348, aakhaa jeevaa visurai mar jaao is on p-9 as well as on p-349 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 numerical system of SGGS... rehraas comes right after japji, and then each are repeated categorized by raags later on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted September 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2003 "Nanak Satgur Tina Milaaya, Jinan Dhurae Piyaa Sanjog !!" Please discuss about this tukk and the way it is interprated... usually printed on the Marriage Invitation Cardz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjj Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Jaap Sahib is written in more than 16 languages. Gur Sahib said that we must konw atleast 16 languages. Morever language is a barrier for expressing to God. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr §ingh Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Jaap Sahib is written in more than 16 languages. Gur Sahib said that we must konw atleast 16 languages. Morever language is a barrier for expressing to God.?? God wouldn't understand If i expressed in Swedish instead of 5abi? :roll: :? :stan: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted October 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Japji Sahib Ji Sayz... Amrit waela sach nao, vadiayee vichar || Karmi Avae Kapda, Nadri Mokh Duar || Nanak aevae janiyae, Sabb Appae Sachiar|| 4 || What is Amrit Vaela according to Gurbani ? Please also discuss this Shabad in details. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Punjabi Nationalist Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Being a beginner, when it comes to understanding Gurmukhi language... the language of our Gurus... I would be regularly putting up some questions relating to Gurbani language, so kindly bear with me... Meaning of following terms frequently used in Gurbani. - Mahla - Ghar For someone your age and who even lives in Punjab i find it pathetic that you refer to Gurmukhi as a "language" (No offence). Gurmukhi is NOT a language. Gurmukhi is the name of a SCRIPT which is used to write PUNJABI. You know, Gurmukhi isnt just used to write Punjabi but is also used by the Sindhi Hindus to write Sindhi. I believe most (maybe all) Guru's were fluent in Punjabi, Persian, among some other languages. Gurmukhi was developed from a previous script called Lahnda by Guru Angad Dev Ji. Guru Ji basically modified the Lahnda by adding to it and giving the written form a style which resembles other Sanskrit derived scripts (ie having a line put on the top of the letters). Anyone who calls Gurmukhi a "language" is a total fool and is hurting the larger cause of preserving and developing the Punjabi language, on both sides of Punjab. If there are certain words in Sri Guru Granth Sahib that you dont understand it is most likely because those words are not Punjabi but are Sanskrit, Braj, Persian, Arabic even... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ideal Singh Posted October 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 For someone your age and who even lives in Punjab i find it pathetic that you refer to Gurmukhi as a "language" (No offence). Gurmukhi is NOT a language. Gurmukhi is the name of a SCRIPT which is used to write PUNJABI. You know, Gurmukhi isnt just used to write Punjabi but is also used by the Sindhi Hindus to write Sindhi. I believe most (maybe all) Guru's were fluent in Punjabi, Persian, among some other languages. Gurmukhi was developed from a previous script called Lahnda by Guru Angad Dev Ji. Guru Ji basically modified the Lahnda by adding to it and giving the written form a style which resembles other Sanskrit derived scripts (ie having a line put on the top of the letters). Anyone who calls Gurmukhi a "language" is a total fool and is hurting the larger cause of preserving and developing the Punjabi language, on both sides of Punjab. If there are certain words in Sri Guru Granth Sahib that you dont understand it is most likely because those words are not Punjabi but are Sanskrit, Braj, Persian, Arabic even... Did I claim anywhere that I am a Gyani... I am the biggest Fool around... but then so are you... coz the day we become a Gyani, we wont be here on these discussion forums, condemning/degrading each other by our petty knowledge... Gurmukhi, is the words spoken by the mouth of the Gurus... the words may be in Punjabi, Persian, Farsi, Sanskri still make it a Gurmukhi... A language is a simple mediun of communication... nothing more... Regardz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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