Harman deep singh Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Das just saw this pic and wanted to ask Isn't this beadbi of Pawan saroop shri Guru Granth Pawan saroop To beraj them all on one sukh Ashn -_- if u can't afford new Sukh asan then why you have So many Pawan saroop of Guru granth sahib g? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 hmm Interesting..I am not sure on this one. My question to a Brahmgyani would be, if there are 10 saroops of Guru Sahib present should we treat is as One Saroop or do we treat it as 10 different bodies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman deep singh Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 True veer g If u would allow me to present my opinion Then I guess many saroops shouldn't be beraj on one asan it's kinda like beadbi Guru ji need proper space In above pic they got many saroop of Guru g for business only If u happen to ask to brahmgiani pls mind to share lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koi Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Think of it this way.....if the 10 Guru Sahibaan were standing in front of you, would you ask them to all sit on one seat? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I have a few questions - 1. Do Guru sahibs only go to those people who can afford large space and lots of thrones? 2. Can all Guru Sahibs all sit in the same mind at once? 3. Are thrones more important than giving Guru Granth Sahib an asan in the mind? PS @Ragmaala10 swaroops means 10 different bodies by its very definition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman deep singh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 hours ago, BhagatSingh said: I have a few questions - 1. Do Guru sahibs only go to those people who can afford large space and lots of thrones? 2. Can all Guru Sahibs all sit in the same mind at once? 3. Are thrones more important than giving Guru Granth Sahib an asan in the mind? PS @Ragmaala10 swaroops means 10 different bodies by its very definition. Veer g according to my low mat small Gurudwaras only own 1 saroop But some people Get many Guru's saroop for akhand path business After all there is no need of many saroops as such in pic Having many saroops leads to beadbi of Guru g and after all I bet they can't even prepare security since they are lazy for even preparing asan And they can get many saroop of Guru sahib only if they won't put them together on one asan One asan can contain 6 saroop maximum which is enough but man this pic sure is stupid They can also prepare small asan veer g we should first respect Guru g physically before mind lol Otherwise people will stop respecting Guru sahib physically Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman deep singh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Koi said: Think of it this way.....if the 10 Guru Sahibaan were standing in front of you, would you ask them to all sit on one seat? Seriously... But looking at pic Guru g don't even have small space =…= 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman deep singh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Bhagat veer g If we inspect pic carefully asan looks expensive and I bet they can afford one more but they are lazy lol And all those transportation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 37 minutes ago, Harman deep singh said: veer g we should first respect Guru g physically before mind lol Indeed. 38 minutes ago, Harman deep singh said: Veer g according to my low mat small Gurudwaras only own 1 saroop But some people Get many Guru's saroop for akhand path business After all there is no need of many saroops as such in pic Having many saroops leads to beadbi of Guru g and after all I bet they can't even prepare security since they are lazy for even preparing asan And they can get many saroop of Guru sahib only if they won't put them together on one asan One asan can contain 6 saroop maximum which is enough but man this pic sure is stupid They can also prepare small asan We don't have any context to this photo. We have no idea what is going on here, behind the scenes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman deep singh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 50 minutes ago, BhagatSingh said: Indeed. We don't have any context to this photo. We have no idea what is going on here, behind the scenes. XD my blood still boils 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Just now, Harman deep singh said: XD my blood still boils Bring your dhyan into it :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnSikhGirl Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 6 hours ago, Harman deep singh said: veer g we should first respect Guru g physically before mind lol Really? Are you sure physical is more important than mind? Also on a different note... are two exact copies of the same thing, in fact one thing or are they several things? Let's say they did have all ten saroops separate and each in their own space, are they really ten 'different' things? Or ten copies of ONE thing? I agree that SGGSJ always should have respect, but in case like this are they really different Gurus? Or are they all the SAME Guru?? In any case....I don't think they really meant disrespect.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman deep singh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 1 hour ago, CdnSikhGirl said: Really? Are you sure physical is more important than mind? Also on a different note... are two exact copies of the same thing, in fact one thing or are they several things? Let's say they did have all ten saroops separate and each in their own space, are they really ten 'different' things? Or ten copies of ONE thing? I agree that SGGSJ always should have respect, but in case like this are they really different Gurus? Or are they all the SAME Guru?? In any case....I don't think they really meant disrespect.... First step is always tun (physical) For mun (mind) Sewa (physical ) which is first step Simran (mind) wen guru is pleased with physical aspect then we go to mind :) I got simran daat from Bhundaara of Nanak g after physical aspect ^_^ If our pyaare Sikhs don't start noticing this small physical aspects in respect of Guru then one day people won't even care abt big aspects First small then big CDNsikh girl g once there will come time in kalyug when Sikhs will stop bowing in front of Guru g and will start idolizing sikhi will be only in name That's my views thanks for letting me share my views :p 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 On 2/16/2016 at 0:12 AM, Harman deep singh said: Das just saw this pic and wanted to ask Isn't this beadbi of Pawan saroop shri Guru Granth Pawan saroop To beraj them all on one sukh Ashn -_- if u can't afford new Sukh asan then why you have So many Pawan saroop of Guru granth sahib g? Paaji, do they Sukhasan the saroops on the same Palang(Manji Sahib) or do they use the Palang, when the saroops are in a Prakash state? One can have two saroops in the Prakash state on the same Palang, as this states implies that Maharaaj is in a sitting posture. Please have a look at the picture (second one) below: http://www.gurdwarananaksar.com/english/brampton_e.html Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman deep singh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 21 minutes ago, paapiman said: Paaji, do they Sukhasan the saroops on the same Palang(Manji Sahib) or do they use the Palang, when the saroops are in a Prakash state? One can have two saroops in the Prakash state on the same Palang, as this states implies that Maharaaj is in a sitting posture. Please have a look at the picture (second one) below: http://www.gurdwarananaksar.com/english/brampton_e.html Bhul chuk maaf Veer g In our pic Guru g aren't in prakash state It's sukh asan They are abt to get ready to beraaj Guru g on Akhand path room I can tell all this from my experience of some years Coz we (me) spend more than 4 or 5 hours in Gurudwara :p we can tell abt sukh asan and other things Even if by any chance there is reason behind pic (1% chance) I still know that things like this happn at many places Like in our Gurudwara wen They are abt to beraj Guru g from some place they don't even gather 5 person (5 sikh must accompany guru g (one with weapon) ) They want to just complete their task in hurry so they can go home early lol Granthi when asked to accompany Guru ji acts like.. he is asked to go to war with pathans hhhahahaha In other cases Here in akhand path place People talk so loud on cellphone in presence of Guru g some even start abusing In another cases I have seen people talking on cell or abusing (habbit) while holding pothi sahib Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 12 hours ago, BhagatSingh said: I have a few questions - 1. Do Guru sahibs only go to those people who can afford large space and lots of thrones? 2. Can all Guru Sahibs all sit in the same mind at once? 3. Are thrones more important than giving Guru Granth Sahib an asan in the mind? PS @Ragmaala10 swaroops means 10 different bodies by its very definition. 1. Brother, Maharaaj will go to a person, who has Sharda and Prem. Having said that, physical requirements for keeping a Saroop are mandatory. People, who cannot met those standards, should desist from keeping a Saroop. They have other options - Pothis Sahibs, Gutka Sahibs, Digital Saroops, etc 2. All the succeeding 10 Satgurus are incarnations of Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj, who is himself the incarnation of the Almighty God. There is no difference in them. 3. Giving an Asan in the mind will be one of the best things a human could do, but physical respect has its own place. @Ragmaala - Bhagat Singh jee is right. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 @paapiman Beautiful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I was quite surprised to see this. Shelves were a big no no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Sat1176 said: I was quite surprised to see this. Shelves were a big no no. Where is this happening brother? This is not good. Daas wonders if these people (organizers/managers of the above place) were asked to fit in a closet (leave aside a shelf) and sleep. How would they feel? Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 A new gurdwara opened in Malaysia recently. Can't remember the name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 See at 4 min and 5 mins into the video. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, Sat1176 said: See at 4 min and 5 mins into the video. I think their intentions are pretty good, they just need some education regarding doing the Sukhasan sewa. Baba Nand Singh ji would used to say Can you fit yourself in a closet or can you sit comfortably on a small stool. Similarly the pargat deh of Guru Sahib should be treated like a 6ft full human body. Proper space is a must. I think they just need some education, that should solve the problem, unless they become defensive, which our lot have a lot of habit of resulting in tu tu main main & debate. Everyone gets so defensive when it comes to practices, people think if someone is giving them advice they are hating on them lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I once went to the residence of Sant Baba Nahar Singh Sunheran Wale who were the family grandson of Sant Baba Nand Singh. In his residence he kept quite a few saroops of Guru Maharaj. They were all put on one bed like above. I think most gurdwaras do that. However he had another huge bed in a different room. Every day a different saroop got to rest on that bed for 24 hours. Around the room were huge photos of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji and Sant Baba Nand Singh. You can see photos here. http://www.babeke.org/pic_gal_02.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Ragmaala said: people think if someone is giving them advice they are hating on them lol That is why, it is so important brother to give advice to only those people, who are receptive to it. Otherwise, one should stay quite. As the saying goes - "Ek Chup Sau Sukh" Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Sat1176 said: I once went to the residence of Sant Baba Nahar Singh Sunheran Wale who were the family grandson of Sant Baba Nand Singh. In his residence he kept quite a few saroops of Guru Maharaj. They were all put on one bed like above. I think most gurdwaras do that. However he had another huge bed in a different room. Every day a different saroop got to rest on that bed for 24 hours. Around the room were huge photos of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji and Sant Baba Nand Singh. You can see photos here. http://www.babeke.org/pic_gal_02.htm Interesting, I have not heard much about Baba Nahar Singh. I once asked a Nanaksar Mahapurakh, he didn't give any satisfactory answer regarding him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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