What and why??was that mentioned in Charitars?

[kdsingh80]

On 3/16/2016 at 7:32 AM, CdnSikhGirl said:

Do you guys REALLY need to talk about this??? It's a very few sick sick people who are deranged who do these things these abuses to animals!!! There is obviously something wrong with these people and they need to be locked up! We don't need to analyze what they do. Better not even knowing.

According to science some men and women are not attracted to each other but animals , if homosexuality can accepted that it is natural then people should not have any problem accepting these

[paapiman]

14 hours ago, Gunahgar said:

This reminds me of a temple of menstruating Goddess in Kerala.  People come here for fertility boon.

In the following video, they are sticking coins in Goddess menses. So menses are celebrated in certain traditions @CdnSikhGirl

 

 

A person, who believes that menstruating women can do Seva of the most pavitar (pure) saroop of Maharaaj (which is an utter disgusting act), should not feel that the above video/pictures are nasty.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

15 hours ago, GurpreetKaur said:

Graveyard ch alive menstruating women  kitho andiyan?? 

They probably take a menstruating woman along with them to the graveyards. They do not practice necrophilia.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

6 hours ago, kdsingh80 said:

According to science some men and women are not attracted to each other but animals , if homosexuality can accepted that it is natural then people should not have any problem accepting these

Bro, Homosexuality is different from Bestiality in a big way. It is a scientific fact that some people are sexually attracted towards animals, but the problem is consent, How will a person take a consent (for sex) from an animal? That is why, it would be considered as a crime according to Gurmat.

Homosexual marriages are also prohibited in Sikhism.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[chatanga1]

13 hours ago, GurpreetKaur said:

Lol cuz I wanted to see what is two girls ans one cup, he did not mention it will involve two girls eating poop, if he did I would not pull it up. @chatanga1 was it real poop btw? Lol.

 

Don't know. Only could bear to watch it once many years ago. Ain't no way I'm watching again to find out. Guess it will remain an mystery.

[chatanga1]

16 hours ago, GurpreetKaur said:

Graveyard ch alive menstruating women  kitho andiyan?? 

 

30 minutes ago, paapiman said:

They probably take a menstruating woman along with them to the graveyards. They do not practice necrophilia.

 

Aghoris live in graveyards. Maybe the women are chele?

[CdnSikhGirl]

Wow Paapiman really has no idea about menstruation of he thinks that pic of the statue is in any way representative! 

Women maybe lose less than 1 ounce of blood over their entire cycle. Enough to fill a tablespoon.... That statue is covered by enough red paint to look like a massacre!

Second there are hygiene products including internal ones. Someone wearing one of those internal ones you would NEVER know they were menstruating!! 

And finally Gurbani actually speaks against any idea of impurity and says only clean are those in who's mind the lord abides. Our gurus tried to remove this idea of impurity... Your mind is what is a disgusting act... Limiting people because of a biological function they have no control over. Shame on you. 

I am not surprised this is dera mentality and brahaminism. Goes right along with thinking women are not even fully human and are downgraded of male bodies or that women need to be reborn in a male joon to be luberated. sootak is a Hindu concept. If you want to be Hindu then be Hindu. 

To me there is nothing wrong or disgusting about any body function. Just use common sense for hygiene. I'm really sad that there are Singhs who think like this. You might cringe at a natural function... I cringe at the likes of you. 

Gurbani says meditate on him every day. We are supposed to read from SGGSJ every day. Some people have saroop of maharaj in their home. If they live alone and are a woman then what?? EVERY saroop is equal! This is nonsense. 

The reason men have to wash after ejaculating has nothing to do with dirtiness of the semen. Its because it was a sexual act   Which can be associated with kaam. Menstruation has nothing to do with kaam.

You mean to tell me a male who just ejaculated because of a sexy dream or watching porno etc can just wash up and then do seva of SGGSJ like it didn't happen, but a woman who is just experiencing a normal biological function given to her by Waheguru to create life, without having had any sexy thoughts or kaam involved, should be barred from that seva? THAT is what is disgusting act to me.  

Paapiman would be the same person who would bar a homeless man from reading Gurbani because he can't afford clean clothing etc.  To me this is wrong. Gurbani is for everyone.  Ask yourself, do you think the Gurus in human form would have avoided women menstruating and say they couldn't see that woman till she stopped bleeding? The human Gurus did not elevate themselves to some standard like a Brahman priest who couldn't bear to be around downtrodden and dirty things.  No, the Guru Nanak put himself on the level of the beggar, and homeless person. He served humanity.... now SGGSJ is our eternal Guru and you want to dictate who can approach when Guru Nanak would have accepted ANYONE. 

 

[chatanga1]

17 hours ago, Gunahgar said:

This reminds me of a temple of menstruating Goddess in Kerala. 

 

There are also stone statue carvings of besti in some of the ancient Hindu Temples.

Also another thing that comes to mind is that in yugs previous to Kal, Brahmans and other holy men would with their wives take the form of animals to mate. This is mentioned in Mahabharat when King Pandu kills two deers who were mating who then turned back to their human form and gave him a srap.

[paapiman]

1 hour ago, chatanga1 said:

Also another thing that comes to mind is that in yugs previous to Kal, Brahmans and other holy men would with their wives take the form of animals to mate. This is mentioned in Mahabharat when King Pandu kills two deers who were mating who then turned back to their human form and gave him a srap.

Any idea bro, why they did that? That curse was the cause of Pandu jee's death.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[kdsingh80]

6 hours ago, paapiman said:

Bro, Homosexuality is different from Bestiality in a big way. It is a scientific fact that some people are sexually attracted towards animals, but the problem is consent, How will a person take a consent (for sex) from an animal? That is why, it would be considered as a crime according to Gurmat.

Homosexual marriages are also prohibited in Sikhism.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

So do humans take consent of cow's when they insert tube in them  to impregnate them so they can produce as much milk as Humans want?

[GurpreetKaur]

14 hours ago, CdnSikhGirl said:

Probably because that was entirely different context. It was a case that shows how dangerous the whole 'wives must be obedient to their husbands' thing can actually be because it was a case of marital sexual abuse. Husband forcing wife into obedience to comply.  And I wasn't descriptive anyway except to say that's what he was forcing her to do. And it was not meant to entice people into looking at disgusting videos for kicks.  And it's a whole different level sexually speaking than eating feces!!!

There is an entirely different thing when someone narrates a situation that happened to show that it's bad or illustrate a situation or circumstance than it is to post links and titles of videos made for nothing more than fetish / shock value. 

 Maybe I have been too sheltered... 

You shared something to inform us which you found crazy and I shared something which I found soo crazy and what's the guarantee people won't search the stuff you posted. What you described was not less than a shock value either, we just don't over react to everything and don't go around saying I can't believe you guys know this stuff, it's disgusting. And then start judging how you know all beings on planet and how all the people who know stuff like this will start doing it. In other word, people who know what is good and bad, they know it. 

True, topics like these and the crazy war we have been having over men and women should not be on a religious forums. You can get the mods to delete it, I requested, you can try now. 

[GurpreetKaur]

6 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

 

 

Aghoris live in graveyards. Maybe the women are chele?

Impossible, just did a Google search and I don't think they can have chele. They chose to live in filth to find purity. Who am I to judge, all the things I have heard over past few days I am like ah well, it's a play I guess lol 

[Ragmaala]

Some cultures are strictly against keeping pets like dogs, cats or birds. By making them a pet , you are interfering with their freedom & creating bad karma. This was told to me by a fellow Nepalese colleague.

29 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:

So do humans take consent of cow's when they insert tube in them  to impregnate them so they can produce as much milk as Humans want?

Good point . And the labor & delivery  pain they have to endure. Many cows & calves die during this process of giving birth.

Unless you have cows like below, its animal cruelty everywhere, except in switzerland,

 

[CdnSikhGirl]

46 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:

So do humans take consent of cow's when they insert tube in them  to impregnate them so they can produce as much milk as Humans want?

Awesome point! Those who are against eating meat but condone dairy are big huge hypocrites! 
 

39 minutes ago, GurpreetKaur said:

True, topics like these and the crazy war we have been having over men and women should not be on a religious forums. You can get the mods to delete it, I requested, you can try now. 

Exactly... there shouldn't be a war between male / female at all! It's sad that religions are still trying to place limitations on one gender or give preference to the other under the guise of religion. Unfortunately when people are trying to tout said limitations and restrictions on one gender as a religious requirement then it very much DOES belong on a religious forum, or else change will never happen.  In the case of what I posted it directly to show how teaching that wives must be obedient to husbands, causes a LOT of harm! Until and unless the men see their wives as their equal, they will NEVER treat them on an equal level and abuse WILL happen. The way to solve it is to remove the teaching of inequality / superiority of one over the other.  Its the same as discussing the atrocities ISIS have committed you can't discuss how ISIS is in the wrong unless you understand what they have done.  This is a far cry from posting porn involving feces.  

[chatanga1]

3 hours ago, paapiman said:

Any idea bro, why they did that? That curse was the cause of Pandu jee's death.

 

I think it was more to do with the mating rituals and courting games played by animals that made it more enjoyable for the Brahmans and holy men. Frolicking and all that.

1 hour ago, kdsingh80 said:

So do humans take consent of cow's when they insert tube in them  to impregnate them so they can produce as much milk as Humans want?

 

Good point. Humans take absolutely no consideration of nature when it comes to their own needs. This includes altering natural features of the world.

[chatanga1]

12 minutes ago, CdnSikhGirl said:

Awesome point! Those who are against eating meat but condone dairy are big huge hypocrites! 

My dearest Satkiran talking about hypocrisy again. There's feces for you.

[GurpreetKaur]

Lol no porn involving feces was "posted" and I have no idea who ISIS is  but get your point. 

[chatanga1]

3 minutes ago, GurpreetKaur said:

Lol no porn involving feces was "posted" and I have no idea who ISIS is  but get your point. 

Where have you been living for the last 57 years?

ISIS = International Space Isolation Service.

[GurpreetKaur]

Just now, chatanga1 said:

Where have you been living for the last 57 years?

ISIS = International Space Isolation Service.

I don't know I just recently heard the name ISIS on basic of Sikhi channel and never bothered to know what it is since I thought might be some Muslim thing lol.

And I am 27, not 57..:(

[paapiman]

1 hour ago, kdsingh80 said:

So do humans take consent of cow's when they insert tube in them  to impregnate them so they can produce as much milk as Humans want?

Agreed that even the above is a form of animal cruelty, but animal cruelty takes place to acquire vegan diet too.

If one starts thinking about animal cruelty, we cannot live a householders life. We will have to become ascetics and retire to jungles or have a personal farm/cow, etc, in order to survive.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:

My dearest Satkiran talking about hypocrisy again. There's feces for you.

Exactly mate! Hypocrisy like someone sending an unsolicited private message to a complete stranger trying to get them to leave a public forum that was meant for everyone, and then having a hissy fit and calling that person a liar for outing you on it!  Glad you know what it means! 

[GurpreetKaur]

Just now, paapiman said:

Agreed that even the above is a form of animal cruelty, but animal cruelty takes place to acquire vegan diet too.

If one starts thinking about animal cruelty, we cannot live a householders life. We will have to become ascetics and retire to jungles or have a personal farm/cow, etc, in order to survive.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Yea.. I am a vegan  and I still know I do animal cruelty with the clothes shoes I wear and all the stuff I choose. It's hard to not become part of it. 

[kdsingh80]

2 minutes ago, paapiman said:

Agreed that even the above is a form of animal cruelty, but animal cruelty takes place to acquire vegan diet too.

If one starts thinking about animal cruelty, we cannot live a householders life. We will have to become ascetics and retire to jungles or have a personal farm/cow, etc, in order to survive.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

But I was not talking about diet , I was talking about Human animal sexual relation 

[paapiman]

Just now, GurpreetKaur said:

Yea.. I am a vegan  and I still know I do animal cruelty with the clothes shoes I wear and all the stuff I choose. It's hard to not become part of it. 

That is right sister.

Meat - There is Animal cruelty associated with it.

Eggs - There is Animal cruelty associated with it.

Dairy - There is Animal cruelty associated with it.

Vegan Diet - There is Animal cruelty associated with it.

What should we eat?

Keep it simple - Follow Lacto-vegetarian diet, which is clearly permitted in Gurmat.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

3 minutes ago, kdsingh80 said:

But I was not talking about diet , I was talking about Human animal sexual relation 

Got it Paaji.

 

Bhul chuk maaf