Why the Rajputs failed miserably in battle for centuries

[dalsingh101]

 

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Why bother doing that amardeep? Just delete the whole f**king thing next time. 

 

 

 

 

 

[amardeep]

Okay I can do that also next time. Normally we keep the post and edit the problematic sections.

[Guest Scientist4U]

No need to keep or edit either, just refrain from posting to save your time.  Go play golf.

[BhagatSingh]

1 hour ago, Guest Scientist4U said:

Go play golf.

We got an MD in the house. Everyone watch out.

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

On 6/4/2016 at 1:00 AM, dalsingh101 said:

@amardeepThat piece from tisarpanth you linked to is atrocious man! lol  It's just another piece of jut propaganda. 

 

The peasantry want to look close to home (i..e. amongst themselves) for the cause of their woes. 

To translate a Panjabi saying:

If you continually place jackasses on the throne, learn to bear the donkey's kicks.

 

Badal/Akali Dal/SGPC - Run by, dominated by, and repeatedly voted in by.......  do the maths.

 

What a bunch of tossers - crying about your own self-inflicted leadership.......you couldn't make it up. 

Veer Ji, if you read Tisarpanth's other articles you will see he/she is quite opposed to Jats as well. 

https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/misconceptions-ii/

When they first published that article, there was a massive outcry on their facebook page with many Jats accusing them of Casteism, anti-Jat tendencies and prejudice. Though this may be a divergence, I would say that among the Rajputs and Marathas we should also add the Jats; they too failed to birth any substantial revolution against the Sullahs. 

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

On 6/5/2016 at 9:14 AM, amardeep said:

Yes Tisarpant blog is heavily opiniated however his ability to dig out various sources and bring together into an article is commendable. I often leave his analysis aside and just go for the various quotes and sources he provides.

Reading those articles is akin to being dictated to lol; on the other hand the admin is making a commendable effort. His analysis is quite polemical to say the least. Look at the digs he takes at Hindus, Muslims and even Sikh Babas themselves:

Of great significance, the householder’s life, in opposition to renunciation, emphasizes social involvement in all spheres of life. So unique was this departure from traditional Indic thought, that several orders accused the Guru of having ‘diluted the milk of spiritualism with the acid of familial life.’ (53) The Guru however retorted that without the existence of families to beg from, these orders and their charades would have ceased to exist long ago. (54) Other than the adolescent Guru, Guru Harkrishen Sahib Ji all the Gurus were married men and leading householders. ‘One who is incapable of making an effort to earn a living, has his ears split (sign of asceticism; interjection ours) or becomes a mendicant. He declares himself to be a Guru or Saint but begs from door to door. Do not emulate such an individual or touch his feet. Only he knows righteousness, who earns by effort and shares his earnings with others.’ (55) It is a Herculean irony that rather than honoring the idealism of their Gurus, Sikhs instead choose to honor men who in a direct contrast to the Guru live out their lives in secluded deras, whilst renouncing the concept of family and family oriented life. Such recluses are the collective shame of the Khalsa Panth. 

 

https://tisarpanthdotcom.wordpress.com/2016/02/09/the-warrior-who-was-nanak/

[Guest Nono]

Rajput failed, Jatt failed, Brahmin failed, Kshatri failed. All for different reasons. See a pattern? Everyone failed. LOL. Or did they (marathas).

This means Sikh also failed, because the British crushed them and destroyed their empire. 

Obviously this means Sikh is the right way and all other ways are wrong ways. Eh?

When will you stop trying to prove superiority of Sikh over other communities, just because of the accident of your birth in a Sikh family. All you will ever for your life efforts in this regard is a bit of cloth from the dodgy council tenancy piare at the godwara.

[BhagatSingh]

15 hours ago, Guest Nono said:

Rajput failed, Jatt failed, Brahmin failed, Kshatri failed. All for different reasons. See a pattern? Everyone failed. LOL. Or did they (marathas).

This means Sikh also failed, because the British crushed them and destroyed their empire. 

Exactly. Everyone and everything fails.

Guru Tegh Bahadur ji puts it bluntly -

ਅਸਥਿਰੁ ਜੋ ਮਾਨਿਓ ਦੇਹ ਸੋ ਤਉ ਤੇਰਉ ਹੋਇ ਹੈ ਖੇਹ ॥
That stability you seek in bodies (and in the world), can never be found there, your body will soon become ashes.

ਕਿਉ ਨ ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਲੇਹਿ ਮੂਰਖ ਨਿਲਾਜ ਰੇ ॥੧॥
So then why don't you chant the name of Hari you foolish person? Why don't you seek stability where stability is actually found, in Hari?

 

15 hours ago, Guest Nono said:

When will you stop trying to prove superiority of Sikh over other communities, just because of the accident of your birth in a Sikh family. All you will ever for your life efforts in this regard is a bit of cloth from the dodgy council tenancy piare at the godwara.

Godwara lol, God da dwar

 

[Guest toff]

22 hours ago, Guest Nono said:

Rajput failed, Jatt failed, Brahmin failed, Kshatri failed. All for different reasons. See a pattern? Everyone failed. LOL. Or did they (marathas).

This means Sikh also failed, because the British crushed them and destroyed their empire. 

Obviously this means Sikh is the right way and all other ways are wrong ways. Eh?

When will you stop trying to prove superiority of Sikh over other communities, just because of the accident of your birth in a Sikh family. All you will ever for your life efforts in this regard is a bit of cloth from the dodgy council tenancy piare at the godwara.

We all failed miserably.  Failure is the name of the GAME.

[Guest Jinpoot]

On 15 June 2016 at 0:57 PM, Guest toff said:

We all failed miserably.  Failure is the name of the GAME.

Nation of the failed ones..

[Guest Nono]

16 hours ago, Guest Jinpoot said:

Nation of the failed ones..

Cool forum saves what you type, backtype, delete, etc. if you post as guest, and probably as a member also. Remember, it's just the same old Punjabi parlour tricks.

[Guest guest]

On 6 June 2016 at 0:40 PM, paapiman said:

There is bachan in a Rehatnama or a Hukamnana, which prohibits a Sikh from asking caste (of a fellow Sikh).

 

Bhul chuk maaf

That must be taking about Amritdharis socialising with each other.  Are you seriously telling me you follow everything in all the various Rehitnamas?

Gurbani mentions castes of bhagats.  

[Guest guest]

On 14 June 2016 at 10:53 PM, Guest Nono said:

When will you stop trying to prove superiority of Sikh over other communities, just because of the accident of your birth in a Sikh family. All you will ever for your life efforts in this regard is a bit of cloth from the dodgy council tenancy piare at the godwara.

wow jealousy and resentment.   i think you are the one that secretly believes in superiority of sikhs, hence spending time lurking around a sikh site.

[Guest guest]

On 6 June 2016 at 1:10 PM, amardeep said:

Here it is.

Amrit ko paani kahe ,Sikh ki poochhahe jaat.
Kahe GOBIND SINGH Nand Lal ji ,so sikh jampur jaat."
 

There is also this which I think is from the Bhai Desa Singh Rahitnama

Jo Sikha Ko Puche Jaat Soh Sikh Nahi Mero Aad Jugaad (Those who ask a sikh's caste, they are not my sikh, they never were, and they never will be)

and yet you, papimaan etc probably fully aware of what your castes are and the castes of others too.  

[BhagatSingh]

@Amarjeet Singh_1737

Where've you been bhaji?

Welcome back!

[Guest Nono]

19 hours ago, Guest guest said:

wow jealousy and resentment.   i think you are the one that secretly believes in superiority of sikhs, hence spending time lurking around a sikh site.

Why is it whenever we cross paths, you never talk like this?

I don't lurk here. I visited this site first time in years a few days ago and read a few posts. Get over yourself.

It's no secret, I believe in superiority of Sikhs over some communities, but the way you exaggerate this to lord it over Rajputs, Marathas, Jatts, Brahmins, Kshatris, etc. just makes me LOL. This thread is a fucked up racial superiority thing dressed up as religion.

Go on, I'm jealous, a loser, or whatever.

I will admin cut off if you like, and leave you 4 or 5 wankstains sniffing your own superior asses.

[kdsingh80]

On 6/15/2016 at 3:23 AM, Guest Nono said:

Rajput failed, Jatt failed, Brahmin failed, Kshatri failed. All for different reasons. See a pattern? Everyone failed. LOL. Or did they (marathas).

This means Sikh also failed, because the British crushed them and destroyed their empire. 

Obviously this means Sikh is the right way and all other ways are wrong ways. Eh?

When will you stop trying to prove superiority of Sikh over other communities, just because of the accident of your birth in a Sikh family. All you will ever for your life efforts in this regard is a bit of cloth from the dodgy council tenancy piare at the godwara.

I started this thread and I don't believe  in any superiority of sikhism at Hinduism at present , Infact Sikhs these days going toward status of religions like Jains and parsi' who were always dependent on majority community. Studying and discussing history  does not mean one is degrading another religion

[Guest XYZ]

If you say this about Rajputs did you ever look in the mirror. See what sort shambles we are in. Did we achieve anything. Like the Afgans say anyone who invades will be crushed to a tiny land. We laugh about the British they were great in power all over the world. We had a powerful nation that we did not know how to keep intact. All that was done by the Punjabi from ancient times we messed up the Punjab and lost your land. First need to keep yourself intact by the traditions of Sikhi then as for Khalistan.

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

On 6/19/2016 at 2:08 PM, BhagatSingh said:

@Amarjeet Singh_1737

Where've you been bhaji?

Welcome back!

A bit of this; a bit of that. Got bored of the monotony and headed back home...

[chatanga1]

6 hours ago, Amarjeet Singh_1737 said:

A bit of this; a bit of that. Got bored of the monotony and headed back home...

Nice to see yu back. You haven't here for about 3 or 4 years yes?

[Guest guest]

On 19 June 2016 at 7:13 PM, Guest Nono said:

but the way you exaggerate this to lord it over Rajputs, Marathas, Jatts, Brahmins, Kshatris, etc. just makes me LOL. 

exaggerate what?  and where has anyone here lauded anything over anyone else?

 

[Guest guest]

21 hours ago, Guest XYZ said:

If you say this about Rajputs did you ever look in the mirror. See what sort shambles we are in. Did we achieve anything. Like the Afgans say anyone who invades will be crushed to a tiny land. We laugh about the British they were great in power all over the world. We had a powerful nation that we did not know how to keep intact. All that was done by the Punjabi from ancient times we messed up the Punjab and lost your land. First need to keep yourself intact by the traditions of Sikhi then as for Khalistan.

how did 'we' morph to 'yourself'?  and what exactly did you want to 'achieve'?  you're already pathetic for looking up to afghans.   

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

On 6/21/2016 at 10:57 PM, chatanga1 said:

Nice to see yu back. You haven't here for about 3 or 4 years yes?

I think the last post I made, on here, was 2013.