paapiman Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Is there any historical evidence present to suggest that Sikhs indulged in honor killings of women, girls, children, etc, in order to protect them from molestation/assault/rape in the 18th century? There were cases of honor killings done by Sikhs during the Partition riots of 1946/47. Thanks Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 I've never heard of such, but interesting question 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikhni777 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 The women were so brave that they armed themselves with swords and knives and fought till they were killed by the enemy. I saw this bit in a film. The first lady had suggested going falling into a well. Another one suggested fighting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Here is an example of how Sikh men (near the Rawalpindi area - Present day Pakistan) performed honor killings to save their women. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, amardeep said: I've never heard of such, but interesting question Remember, you had mentioned (something like this) that according to British census, Sikhs were involved in killing their daughters (foeticide or infanticide) a lot. What was it exactly? Have you (or anyone else) found any references to such practices during the Mughal/Afghan rule? Where the killings were performed in order to save the females from rape/slavery, etc. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 hours ago, paapiman said: Is there any historical evidence present to suggest that Sikhs indulged in honor killings of women, girls, children, etc, in order to protect them from molestation/assault/rape in the 18th century? Also, are there any references to Sikh women committing mass suicides to save their honor during the 18th century. During Nadir Shah's invasion of Delhi, I think Sikh women in Delhi committed suicides in order to save their honor. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yeah that was from one of the census reports from the late 1800s. But that was killings at birth. Not in order to save them from rape etc. Some people say that Sati emerged amongst the rajputs as a way for females to avoid being taken as slaves by the Arab forces 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Read nidar singhs new book...he mentions what guruji says about satis...also honour killings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai2 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 It is well known, that sikh men in 1947 would give their daughters tablets of poison to take if muslims men took over the trains going from now pakiland to now panjab. rather than getting raped by these scums, is this considered honour killing? There is a recent case in the old baily (only serious crimes) in london where a paki father got his daughter raped and killed as a honour killing.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, samurai2 said: It is well known, that sikh men in 1947 would give their daughters tablets of poison to take if muslims men took over the trains going from now pakiland to now panjab. rather than getting raped by these scums, is this considered honour killing? Guess that would be considered as a part of honor killings. Thanks for the info Paaji. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 20 hours ago, Crystal said: Read nidar singhs new book...he mentions what guruji says about satis...also honour killings. There are two Charitars (there might be more) which talk about women becoming Satis, but those were loose women. They became Satis in order to cover their sin(s) and to illustrate the society that they were honorable women, but the fact is that they were dirty/unethical. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai2 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, paapiman said: Guess that would be considered as a part of honor killings. well there is 2 types of honour kiling... 1)one to take a life to protect honour/dignity (all those involved are in consent ) 2) to take life to guards ones ego..(victim is not in consent) figure it out.. from a personal point, sikhs are becoming thick f**ing idiots, cont read behind the lines and want to be spoon fed.. grow some.. seriously.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinder Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Here is a real life story i found based in Canada and another movie based on a true story called Pinjar 2003 which is based on 1947 partition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_Unveiled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaswinder_Kaur_Sidhu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just to make it clear, so that there is no confusion. This Topic is about Honor Killings, where killings are done in order to protect women from rape, molestation, assault, etc, not for any other petty reasons (caste, class, religion, money, race, ego, etc). Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Quote But when defeat and dishonor was imminent, Sikh men started to prepare for the battle till death. While their men fought, the Sikh women started gathering near a well around the garden. When just women and children were left, Maan Kaur led all the women to a large well inside the Haveli. She recited "Japuji Sahib" the Sikh prayers and jumped inside the well. Over 93 Sikh women followed her and all committed mass suicide in order to save their honor. Unquote[1] [1] - http://www.sikhnet.com/news/mass-suicide-women-rawalpindi-1947 Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuttabanda2 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 This is what people of Dharmic background did in India. Especially among the Khshatriya, warrior tribes/peoples of India. There is a tradition of ‘ਜੌਹਰ’ where Rajput and Khshatriya women would pull out their sword and slaughter the old and young before setting themselves on fire (though drowning, slitting their own throat and other methods were also employed) to avoid rape, enslavement, and humilitation at the hands of the enemy. The Punjabi and Hindi phrase ਜੌਹਰ ਵਿਖਾਉਣਾ (literally translating to ‘ to show Jauhar’) comes from this. It’s a proud Khatriya tradition. It was considered an act of resistance and noncompliance. Shaheed Bibi Anoop Kaur Ji is an example of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Are there any books that deal with khashatrya Maryada? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted March 17, 2018 Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 During the 1750s in Delhi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted March 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, amardeep said: During the 1750s in Delhi Thanks for sharing. Which book is this from? Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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